Amarjeet Singh_1737 Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Tisarpanth now has a website. Some interesting information and breathtaking pictures. You can contact the admins on their facebook page. http://amar9569.wix.com/tisarpanth 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Singh Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 nice I also like the other tisar panth blog http://tisarpanth.blogspot.co.uk/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazy Sewadar Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Tisarpanth is an Indian website, right? At least the articles appear to be written by authors who are non-native English speakers; given the unrelenting use of the dictionary/thesarus and the not-quite-successful attempts at overly formal/academic English. At times the writing is rendered completely incomprehensible by such efforts, but to give an example that can be easily fixed: "Kali has gained intensive synonymity with demise and it's subsequent aftermath." could easily and more fluidly be said "Kali represents Death and its subsequent aftermath". One or two slip ups is fine, but reading an entire article where the above sentence is one of the more intelligible really isnt ideal. If anyone here knows anyone at Tisarpanth, please pass on the suggestion that they should try tone things down a little. God bless 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 I agree with lazy sevadar, tisar panth website articles is too intellectual or posh for pendu like me..lol..i was like some articles..lets cut to the chase here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny101 Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 someone should do seva of doing viakhya of those hard to understand articles lol never like to read articles that try to use so much sophisticated english. Make it simple, why turn it into a struggle for the readers? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Singh Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 someone should do seva of doing viakhya of those hard to understand articles lol never like to read articles that try to use so much sophisticated english. Make it simple, why turn it into a struggle for the readers? There are some audiences who only understand sophisticated english plus it will help some of our writers to improve the quality of writing they write in such as the basic of giving references. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 On the contrary, you will find that people who may use sophisticated english, whilst practicing etiquette in everyday work life, actually try to keep things simple on forums, info websites, conversation/chat media....etc... I agree that tisapanth is trying to be a ''wannabe'' with the use of big words that end up leaving the whole sentence incomprehensible. This ends up coming across as jargon, as in the example above (by lazy sevadaar), that makes no sense in conversation. Substituting words from thesaurus does NOT work when you start using more than one or two substitutions per sentence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarjeet Singh_1737 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 nice I also like the other tisar panth blog http://tisarpanth.blogspot.co.uk/ Thats the blog, I will also talk with them about the over hyped synonyms etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazy Sewadar Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) Substituting words from thesaurus does NOT work when you start using more than one or two substitutions per sentence. This. Edited February 6, 2014 by Lazy Sewadar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GtLoc Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Tisarpanth is fine. Go read a book, if you have problems. We use sophisticated language because we love all humanity. English is a dog's language, and we try to bring some dignity to it. Beside only lesson you need to from it Is that weapons are the road to rule, and you only get something from the strength in your arms. Everything, else extra. I'm not the author, but am a member of the Third Panth. ਗੁਰਬੜ ਅਕਾਲ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਹਿ | | 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarjeet Singh_1737 Posted February 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 None the less Jwala Singh, Dr. Gurinder Singh Maan and Akali-Nihung Kamalroop Singh possess the only blogs which do extensive seva of Sikhi in such a literal and historical context. Most people have added tisarpanth to the list, although over time it too has earned it's foes. Yet it still rolls on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Singh Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) I hope more stuff comes out based off Sarbloh Granth Maybe someone can explain the role of laxmi in sarbloh granth? What does Sahai mean? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhavani Bhavani is a ferocious aspect of the Hindu goddess Parvati. Bhavani means "giver of life", the power of nature or the source of creative energy. In addition to her ferocious aspect, she is also known as Karunaswaroopini, "filled with mercy". - Parvati (Devanagri: पार्वती, IAST: Pārvatī) is known as the motherly form of Mother Goddess Gauri Jagadamba, Parvati is another form of Shakti, the wife of Shiva and the gentle aspect of Maha Devi or Durga, the Great Goddess. Parvati is considered to be a complete incarnation of Adi Parashakti or Goddess Durga, with all other Goddesses being her incarnations or manifestations. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parvati BHAGAUTI or Bhavani (Skt. Bhagavati. consort of Visnu, or the goddess Durga) has had in Sikh usage a chequered semantic history.In early Sikhism, especially in the compositions comprising the Guru Granth Sahib, the word means a bhakta or devotee of God. "So bhagautijo bhagvantai janai; he alone is a true devotee who knoweth the Lord" (GG, 88). In Bhai Gurdas, bhagautfhas been used as an equivalent of sword. "Nau bhagauti lohu gharaia iron (a lowly metal) when properly wrought becomes a (powerful) sword" (Varan, XXV. 6). - http://www.thesikhencyclopedia.com/philosophy/mythological-references/bhagauti ik o(n)kaar sree vaahiguroo jee kee fathih sree bhuvaanee jee sehaae sree maayaa lushhumee jee sehaae usuthath sree maayaa lachhumee jee kee sree mukhivaak paathishaahee 10 dhohiraa source: http://www.sarblohgranth.com/ Edited February 7, 2014 by JatherdarSahib 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny101 Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 ਗੁਰਬੜ ਅਕਾਲ ਗੁਰਬੜ?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh123456777 Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 ਗੁਰਬੜ??In English it's gurbar Akaal.Most the Nihangs use the words gurbar Akaal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Singh Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 ਗੁਰਬੜ?? part of nihang jaikara 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GtLoc Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 How do we deal with the fact that pre British times, quom and panth were different words for Sikhs? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazy Sewadar Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) I was unaware that people had difficulty with the interchangeability of the terms "qawm" and "panth". Edited February 7, 2014 by Lazy Sewadar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GtLoc Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Quom and panth are interchangeable words for Christians. Quom means lineage or clan, so ramgreta or jatt. Panth means spiritual path. To combine them means you are now a harami. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GtLoc Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Caste is a borrowed word in Punjabi, meaning tribe. In braminism it denotes high or lowliness depending on birth. A concept alien to the people, who had been fighting for tooth and nail for centuries. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh123456777 Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Quom and panth are interchangeable words for Christians. Quom means lineage or clan, so ramgreta or jatt. Panth means spiritual path. To combine them means you are now a harami.How does this make a person a harami? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarjeet Singh_1737 Posted February 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 I think its more when people start looking at your caste, community etc for stratification that the problem arises. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Singh Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Quom and panth are interchangeable words for Christians. Quom means lineage or clan, so ramgreta or jatt. Panth means spiritual path. To combine them means you are now a harami. Does anyone have a quote from gurmat where the guru or guru's sikh from purataan times used the term Kaum? sikh Kaum/Qaum? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarjeet Singh_1737 Posted February 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Does anyone have a quote from gurmat where the guru or guru's sikh from purataan times used the term Kaum? sikh Kaum/Qaum? There might be. You will probably have to look at the works devised in the Anandpur court by the Kavis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GtLoc Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Does anyone have a quote from gurmat where the guru or guru's sikh from purataan times used the term Kaum? sikh Kaum/Qaum? Besides all of sikh history, ithiaas, etc. Aka oral tradition The line can be found on Luke 83:1 and the next line also explains the difference between a holy book and a guru. Put it this way, bachittar natak plus gurus own actions. What sounds better to you, The chaudary of the village marries within his tribe but gives the dowry for all girls in the village. You shouldn't take dowry but let's say other religion did. Or two people destroy their lineage in the west while screwing everyone to climb up social ladder. Their dan consists of giving some of their income so that the local committee can waste it in court. I think the 'casteist' chaudary is better. Some British guy pre us putting British in cannons and blasting them out (1849 war) said the Gurus got rid of caste by implication rather than directly. Meaning he didn't force the bramin and the shudra to Co mingle constantly but he chanhed the rules to equality for when they did. Most people in villages had to work to survive they didn't have time for all the talking. Furthermore when they were married to similar people, who most likely had a similar occupation it provided a support system. Caste means tribe, varna means birth level. Obviously the English screwed society by saying only Jatts can buy land, which isn't fair. But before that during Sikh times, it was what it was. People of all walks made their fortune pinning the tale on the turkic donkey. Turk was a contemporary term for foreign muslim invader. Another point, is if Sikhs were engaged jn guerilla warfare it means the Muslim population loved and helped them. Combining quom and panth distorts world view and encourages extremism. Obviously you can marry or have kids with anyone, but the majority is not caste it because they don't. The way a person improves their standing in a tribal society is through their tribe. So they maintain that tribal lineage. Sweepers or choore were considered beneath everyone. Bhai Jeevan Singh Ji alone made them untouchable, as in not to be fd with Other point is that ttraditionally it was only the khatris from non warrior clans who wanted to mix. Everyone else had a different point of view. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khojidas Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 Does anyone know where this website and material has gone ? Literally seems to have gone AWOL... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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