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Waheguru ji,

I have been reading the posts here and really felt that I should share my story as well

I have been doing naam japp for quite a while and also doing swaas giras and swass swass simran most of the time during the day and amrit vela . I go to Gurudwara every weekend and listen gurbani and try to keep myself engaged in swaas swaas simran most of the time. but I am not feeling blissed or "ChardiKalaa" except on few occasions.

I also started doing naam abhyaas 1 hour in the evening also and sometimes I feel that I should lock myself in the room and do naam simran all day. But I could not sit more than 2 hours straight. I know I need to have patience but how do I know if I am making any progress in this journey. What else should i be doing.

I look forward to hear some of your views.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

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Veer ji,

In my view all is his grace.One who is gonna meet his master is already imbued with divine blessings from his birth.So if one does such attempts to meet his purkh,then it's too due to his virtues.So all matters is our love towards our master.If our love is true and strong enough,then we will appear to have enough wisdom and the right direction in our ongoing journey.All we need to do is to concentrate on our kamai rather than to worry about it.All happen with time and by his will.So love is the strongest tool to unlock anything and love for the true master is the biggest achievement.

Gur fateh!

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Veer Jee,

first of all, when we talk or deal with Wahiguru, time factor should not be there. He is our beloved, and we are His lovers, and if we are true lovers, we should not complain at all.

Suppose we want to walk towards the east, but, by mistake we walk towards the west, what will happen? Well, we will be going away from our objective. Then the more we walk in the wrong direction, the farther we go from Him....

So, since we stepped into this creation(for countless yugas), we have definetely being going in the wrong direction, and the proof is, that we are not with Him....

In comparison to this, what to say if we do His meditation for 2 hours, but even if we did 24 hours of bhakti, that too for millions of years, then too, that would not be sufficient to come near ever to Him.

So brother, we are condemmed right from birth; it does not sound nice at all to keep accounts with Him.

The thing is, we have to be like and stay as "kookars" at His door. The Master whenever thinks fit, He will let us in.

He is not deaf nor blind, He knows everything. Whenever He thinks fit, He will shower His Daya Meher, which will enable us to savour His Amarit Nam, and also allow us to merge in Him. And this merging, is not accomplished with our useless efforts, but with the Glance of His Daya Meher.

So feel blessed that at least you stay at His door by doing His bhakti... there are millions upon millions out there, who are wandering aimlessly.

So brother cheer up, do not get dismayed ever, as He has chosen you to stand at His door...keep on knocking(doing the Bhakti of His Naam Simran).

Sat Sree Akal.

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Thank you Sukrit and Harsharan,
You are right, Love is the key. You need to be in complete Bairaag. I understand that but at the same time I am worried since this is your only chance to be one with Him. And you can only go close to Him if you can fight panj doots and it seems impossible to me.
I listened to Bhai Sewa Singh Tarmala and he says that we need to be on "Santpad" to start Bhakti and to reach santpad we need to do naam kamai. Have anyone of you reached Santpad or beyond? Could you share your experience and how did you live your life, how much simran you did to reach that? Now, I understand that everyone is different, but I just want to hear from someone.
Please share.
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh
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Singh Jee,

We are all sinners, and imperfect beings, He alone is Perfect.

You mention Santpad?

Do we know what is Santpad?

Santpad, is sikhee.

And what does sikhee say in essence? It says: Awar kaaj tere kitte na kaam, mil Sadh Sangat, bhaj, kewal Naam.

And this means that, the easiest way to swim and come out of the Mahabhavsagar, is to take refuge at His Holy Lotus Feet.

And taking refuge at His Charan Kamal, is to get imbued with the Simran of His Naam, that also, as the Bani says: aath paher = 24 hours.

At other place it also says: mein andhule kee tek, Tera Naam adhaar.

This means, it is with the power and Jot of the Simran of His name, that we can walk, and as said above swim across, otherwise, the wrappings of maya and kaal are "apaar" for any jeeva, without the support of His name, there is utter darkness.

It is only by His Name, that Light, wisdom, love, mercy, equanimity, balance, forgiveness become parghat within us.

There is no fixed time to start doing His Bhakti, as you say, everbody has an indivdual approach/relation towards Him.

So any time to start with bhakti, is good, auspicious time.

It is good that you may want to hear from others about His mahima and bhakti or prem....

But, Veer jee, all of us are "kachaas".

I would advise you not to depend on others sayings, or, do not give much importance....

Better go to the Bani of our Guru Sahibans, Bhagats, Sadh Janas, who are the masters themselves in ruhaniyat, and you will find unvaluable gems of spirituality. They are the Supreme authority.

What else can anyone say? We can not inspire each other with our "imperfect experiments".

You see, we are all more or less blind. And as we know, 1 blind + 1 blind = more darkness/agyantaa.

Better we get hold of someone with eyes/sight, and slowly and slowly we shall get pulled out.

And as said above, our only adhaar, is His Naam. Prabh ka simran, sabh teh oochaa. Jin Har japeeya, se Har hoeeya

Brother, do His Bhakti without any expectations, leave yourself completely at His will, and pray to Him earnestly, that, He may lead you to Him.

Once you do this type of bhakti, the Bani says: not only the panj doots will not come near you, even the yam doots do not come who take refuge in His Naam.

Apart from this, as per what I understand from Gurmat, there is no other way.....

Sat Sree Akal.

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I have been doing naam japp for quite a while and also doing swaas giras and swass swass simran most of the time during the day and amrit vela .

Nice. You are well on your way.

I would make one addition -

Make sure that you are doing simran during the moments you are falling asleep at night. Do simran during that transition from waking to sleeping. And then later during sleeping to waking stage.

These are crucial moments when our conscious mind is connected to the subconscious, meaning during the transitions of waking-sleeping and sleeping-waking, our mind goes deep into itself automatically. So if you have simran going on at this time, you can imagine the benefits of that. You are going deeper and implanting simran in the deep areas of your mind.

On Santpad-

Bhai Sahib is correct, in order to get to Santpad, one must build up Naam di kamai and do lots of Bhakti.

However, the problem will aiming for any kind of goals about spiritual states like Santpad or smaller goals like feeling "anand and chardi kala", is that it might create attachment and slow your progress. Your attachment to any spiritual goal can actually become an obstacle.

It's good to have goals but be attached to naam and not the goal.

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Nice. You are well on your way.

I would make one addition -

Make sure that you are doing simran during the moments you are falling asleep at night. Do simran during that transition from waking to sleeping. And then later during sleeping to waking stage.

These are crucial moments when our conscious mind is connected to the subconscious, meaning during the transitions of waking-sleeping and sleeping-waking, our mind goes deep into itself automatically. So if you have simran going on at this time, you can imagine the benefits of that. You are going deeper and implanting simran in the deep areas of your mind.

On Santpad-

Bhai Sahib is correct, in order to get to Santpad, one must build up Naam di kamai and do lots of Bhakti.

However, the problem will aiming for any kind of goals about spiritual states like Santpad or smaller goals like feeling "anand and chardi kala", is that it might create attachment and slow your progress. Your attachment to any spiritual goal can actually become an obstacle.

It's good to have goals but be attached to naam and not the goal.

Thank you BhagatSingh Ji,

I noted your point, very good advise. Thank you so much. Bhagti Marg is very difficult, sometimes I feel very low, depressed (feel like crying out loud) because you dont see any signs of progress.

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Bhagti Marg is very difficult, sometimes I feel very low, depressed (feel like crying out loud) because you dont see any signs of progress.

Singh Jee,

Bhakti Marg though however difficult it may appear, believe it, it is the easiest drawn for us by our guru sahibans and all true bhagats.

It is a path of totall surrender to the Almighty Akal Purukh.

What is ours?

What are our efforts?

If we at all feel something like being depressed or disheartned, it means, we still have haume, which by itself is a barrier between us and our beloved Wahiguru.

Then if we see no apparent progress, it does not mean we are not progressing.

Like for example, if you want to cut through a mountain and reach the other side, darkness is there until you cut and reach the end, when you will definetely see the Light.

On the contrary, if you feel dismayed while doing bhakti, obviously you will only see the light when you have pierced the muontain throughly... so keep on with your love and devotion for him, like bravely a sikh warrior against all odds, and trust Him.

Sat Sree Akal

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Thank you Sukrit and Harsharan,
You are right, Love is the key. You need to be in complete Bairaag. I understand that but at the same time I am worried since this is your only chance to be one with Him. And you can only go close to Him if you can fight panj doots and it seems impossible to me.
I listened to Bhai Sewa Singh Tarmala and he says that we need to be on "Santpad" to start Bhakti and to reach santpad we need to do naam kamai. Have anyone of you reached Santpad or beyond? Could you share your experience and how did you live your life, how much simran you did to reach that? Now, I understand that everyone is different, but I just want to hear from someone.
Please share.
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

the worry, the questions are all created by your mind...to create doubt within you. your mind can be your best friend or your worst enemy.

for weeks on end my simran us full of bliss...and then hits periods of what feels like nothing...and then the mind starts doubting again...

key is to get into selfless simran...to do and not want anything in return...."do with me as you please waheguru" because then you open yourself up to his grace...yes there is that wanting and needing that burns within...but you switch it to...."i am nothing (ego) all is You...i am the dust off your feet, dust of the feet of the whole of creation...do with me as you please"

you are sacrificing time during the day and night...sacrificing sleep etc...nothing goes to waste with His simran...

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Thank you everyone for the advise. I will keep them in mind.

My dilemma is that I am in a situation where I am not liking any of the worldly things but on the other hand I am not able to fully devote myself. I am standing nowhere and I dont know how to get out of it. Only thing I can think of is Ardaas and wait.

seems like you are devoting yourself well enough, and not liking worldly things is a symptom of this journey...it happened to me...still happening to me :) ... yet we still need to participate in this world. and that's where seva comes in...

think of your job as seva...serve people...do your work honestly....share some of the earnings...anything...will make you feel very alive again...but in spiritual way..then worldly life doesn't seem so negative.

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