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It's generally not advisable to get into knowing the future let the mystery be mystery let it unfold be-de-attached from unfolding mystery-... while you may think knowing future can help dilemma of today, reverse is also quite true as well- knowning future can also open can of worms as well which can cause hindrance to your present moment- power of now- moments of all moments- present moment..so bit of caution is needed.

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Seriously veer? Why the hell do you need an astrologer for? That shit ain't in sikhi. 

Bro, astrology is a science, just like other sciences (Physics, Chemistry, etc).

It was invented by a great saint, Rikhi Bhrigu jee Maharaaj.

Bhul chuk maaf

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i will do your janam kundali, mattiage tewa and predict your job prospects and future for $100 in brampton

there's plenty of software that can do the same!.... and that's what they mostly use nowadays.

It should be free shouldn't it, our guest ?

 

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Pappiman, remember the sakhi of astrologer wanted to read - sri guru gobind singh ji hands. Maharaj let him and he was able to provide right information (as per vidya) but maharaj showed him again his hand- everything changed again - which means lekhir changes all the time...so while vidya is there its not a full proof there is limitations infront of akaal purkh maharaj leela.

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Yes it's a science, but do you understand how gurmat comes into this ?

From a Gurmat perspective, one can divide Astrology into two parts.

First part is going to an astrologer and asking him about your future - This is not against Gurmat.

Second part is following astrologer's advice - This part might be against Gurmat. 

Bhul chuk maaf

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On 7/27/2015, 7:16:03, N30 S!NGH said:

Pappiman, remember the sakhi of astrologer wanted to read - sri guru gobind singh ji hands. Maharaj let him and he was able to provide right information (as per vidya) but maharaj showed him again his hand- everything changed again - which means lekhir changes all the time...so while vidya is there its not a full proof there is limitations infront of akaal purkh maharaj leela.

Heard of another sakhi, where a person was given the boon of Astrology. Tenth master stopped at his place, while on his way to Deccan region and asked him about Aurengzeb. The person was able to correctly predict that Aurengzeb will not be able to have darshan of Satguru jee.

Bro, your point makes sense, but even other sciences have limitations too, including medical, in front of Maharaaj. That does not mean, we must stop going to doctors.

Bhul chuk maaf

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Veer if you want to waste your money sure please go but Sant gyani gurbachan Singh would not approve. In DDT rehat maryada it is not approved. Do what you want with this info. It's your life. The guru won't send you to hell but it's all a waste of time.

Hopefully, some Singh on this forum has gone to a good astrologer, who can guide me, so that wastage of money and time is limited.

Bhul chuk maaf

 

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Heard of another sakhi, where a person was given the boon of Astrology. Tenth master stopped at his place, while on his way to Deccan region and asked him about Aurengzeb. The person was able to correctly predict that Aurengzeb will not be able to have darshan of Satguru jee.

Bro, your point makes sense, but even other sciences have limitations too, including medical, in front of Maharaaj. That does not mean, we must stop gong to doctors.

Bhul chuk maaf

It wouldn't be fair to compare astrology with medical science. Couple of points-

1. For health issues, we use medical science, ayurveda etc which are acceptable in gurmat as per sikh history/rehitnamas/vidya those who don't have bhagat dhanna type of faith but those who do they beleive in sarab rog ka aukhad naam for all disease

2. For mind related issues- future uncertainty, dilemmas as per sikhi- NAAM is shrimoni, we are advised to naam simran - sarab rog ka aukhad naam

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Sant Baba Hari Singh Randhawa Damdami Taksal and Giani Thakur Singh Damdami Taksal said astrology is ok i remember

As Mahapurash like Sant Baba Giani Gurbachan Singh Khalsa Bhindrawale predicted they would meet shaheeds

Sant Baba Kartar Singh Khalsa Bhindrawale predicted who our Panj Pyare were in previous lives (example 1 was Kabir Ji)

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From a Gurmat perspective, one can divide Astrology into two parts.

First part is going to an astrologer and asking him about your future - This is not against Gurmat.

Second part is following astrologer's advice - This part might be against Gurmat. 

Bhul chuk maaf

oooh balle balle !!! :)

come on kiddo....listen...this is like saying  "you can go and pay a visit to whore and make enquiries -(gurmat)...but if you agree to become a client for her services then 'that's not gurmat'

 

I'm not sure you understand  that astrology is within ''limitations''...whereas gurmat and sikhi is outside of any boxes of confining dogmas or limits.

 

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Guru Nanak Patshah says in Bani:

ਗਣਤ ਗਣੀਐ ਸਹਸਾ ਦੁਖੁ ਜੀਐ ॥
ਗੁਰ ਕੀ ਸਰਣਿ ਪਵੈ ਸੁਖੁ ਥੀਐ

Astrological calculations about one's future create suspense or sorrow in one's heart;
But by seeking the Guru's refuge, one always remains in peace and comfort.

So if they don't create sorrow they are alright?
Before more people jump on this bandwagon. This tuk is not talking about astrology.
ਜੋਤਿਕ is the term for astrology.  ਗਣਤ ਗਣੀਐ is NOT

Guru Arjun Dev ji says ਅਪਨੇ ਭਗਤ ਕੀ ਗਣਤ ਨ ਗਣਈ ਰਾਖੈ ਬਾਲ ਗੁਪਾਲਾ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
He does not count his devotees account of karma, Gopal protects them.

 

oooh balle balle !!! :)

come on kiddo....listen...this is like saying  "you can go and pay a visit to whore and make enquiries -(gurmat)...but if you agree to become a client for her services then 'that's not gurmat'

I'm not sure you understand  that astrology is within ''limitations''...whereas gurmat and sikhi is outside of any boxes of confining dogmas or limits.

I am not really sure why you guys think astrology should not be allowed.

I don't see a problem with it. If Paapiman wants to see an astrologer, so what?

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