Are Jatts/Jaats Shudar?

[Guest guest]

On 14 April 2016 at 8:38 AM, Koi said:

Why should they declare their caste? Are you looking for a rishta for them?

certain low castes groups have jealousy, hatred and resentment for jatt, and secret desperation to be considered a higher caste

[Guest guest]

On 14 April 2016 at 6:47 AM, jaikaara said:

There you go ! brains buried in the deep muck of caste ...its a hopeless case

By all means the acts of your types are 'worse than brahmins'.

self esteem issues, because your caste resents its position wants other to do so

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On 16 April 2016 at 6:12 PM, paapiman said:

Why cannot we discuss a problem that exists in our community? The below is from another topic.

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Reality is that caste system is a problem in our community. We need to tackle this issue, rather than hide it under the rug. There is plenty of Brahmin bashing going on in our Panth, but IMHO, Jattvaad is not really being confronted on a large scale or explicitly talked about in Kathas.

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If Jatts (who are a huge majority in the Panth) realize that they were Shudars and were at the same level as Majhbis (before becoming Sikhs), then IMHO, most of the battle against caste bigotry will be won.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

oh so you area majbhis?

jatts arent the problem.  you're just jealous they have some self respect so desperate to put them down.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

3 hours ago, paapiman said:

Can you please explain where your great ancestors were, when Punjab was being enslaved by foreigners for more than 700 years?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

see- resentment. nothing said about his caste, but the comments upset him.  

the jatts were fighting them all the way, and standing by the Gurus the whole time.  you can go and check the history.  its why McLeod tried desperately to accuse Gurus of being influenced by jatt culture (not true).

 

[Guest guest]

nothing wrong with castes, Gurus all married within their castes.

actually the problem is that you lot hate your own caste, which is why you don't even want to admit belonging to them.

[Guest 5KS]

^But Mata Gujjar Kaur being from the Gujjar tribal ancestry proves that your lie about marrying in caste falls flat on its face

[Guest JATT]

22 hours ago, paapiman said:

Presently, majority of the Jatts (Jaats) are Hindus in the world. They were Hindus before they became Buddhists.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

 

No you are wrong as just like Sikhs are not Hindus so Arya Samajis are not Hindus either.  In Pakistan nearly all the Jatts are muslims and in Harayana and UP most are Arya Samaj, very few Jatts are Hindus and they live in Rajasthan.

Jatts used to worship their ancestors and then they became Buddhists and then later Muslims, from Islam they became sikhs and followers of Arya samaj.

Today about 40% Jatts are muslims

40% are Arya Samaj

20% are Sikhs.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest JATT]

22 hours ago, paapiman said:

Can you please explain where your great ancestors were, when Punjab was being enslaved by foreigners for more than 700 years?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

 

Yes this is a bog topic and I can give yo all the information you want to show that Jatts were not enslaved like non Jatts.  Even in that 700 years you refer to Jatts were living as freemen and landlords. 

[Guest JATT]

Why were all Gurus Khatris any reason behind that ?  

[Guest JATT]

Jat Kingdoms in Medieval India

• Ballabhgarh
• Bharatpur
• Dholpur
• Fafund
• Faridkot
• Gohad
• Hathras
• Jarakhi
• Jhunjhunu
• Jind
• Kot Duna
• Kuchesar
• Muradabad
• Mursan
• Nabha
• Patiala
• Ranthambore
• Sahanpur
• Sarnau
• Tonk

Jat Princely states

• 1. Pilania Jats, Rajas of Unchagaon (Bulandshahar)
• 2. Dalal Jats, Rajas of Kuchesar (Bulandshahar)
• 3. Kakran Jats ,Rajas of Sahanpur (Bijnor)
• 4. Tomar Jats, Rajas of Pisawa (Aligarh)
• 5. Thenua Jats, Rajas of Mursan (Aligarh)
• 6. Thenua Jats, Rajas of Hathras
• 7. Thenua Jats, Rajas of Beswa (Aligarh)
• 8. Thenua Jats, Rajas of Jatoi (Aligarh)
• 9. Tevatia Jats, Rajas of Ballabhgarh (Faridabad,Haryana)
• 10. Bamraulia Jats, Rajas of Gohad (Bhind, MP)
• 11. Sinsinwar Jats, Rajas of Bharatpur
• 12. Bamraulia Jats, Rajas of Dholpur
• 13. Thenua Jats, Rajas of Mokimpur (Bulandshahar)
• 14. Marhal Jats, Nawabs of Karnal (Haryana)
• 15. -- Jats, Rajas of Paschim Kanth (Moradabad)
• 16. -- Jats, Rajas of Purab Kanth (Moradabad)

Here is the info on the Jatts that you requested Mr Majbhi.

 

 

[Guest JATT]

he legendry reference about the Jats and Meds in Majmal-ut-Tawarikh, the first Persian account of the 11th century (1026), ^[7] involving the mythological figures can not be regarded as a historical fact but would imply that the people designated as Jats were present in Sind at the time of war of Mahabharata. ^[8]

Jats and Meds have been the oldest occupants of Sind. The first Persian account of the 11th century Mujmat ut-Tawarikh (1026), originally an ancient work inSanskrit, mentions Jats and Meds as the ancient tribe of Sind and calls them the descendants of Ham, the son of Noah. ^[9][10]The Ghaznavid poet, Farrukhi calls the Jats (Zatt in Arabic) as the Indian race.^[11] These Arabic/Persian accounts find support from the early fifth century inscription which documented the Indianized names of the Jat rulers, ^[12] such as Raja Jit-Jit Salindra-Devangi-Sumbooka-Degali-Vira Narindra- Vira Chandra and Sali Chandra. Furthermore, the Mujmat ut-Tawarikh also mentions the Indianized name of one of their chiefs of the Jats in remote ancient time as Judrat. ^[13][10]These textual references further strengthened the view of O'Brien, who opines that the names and traditions of certain Jat tribes seem to connect them more closely with Hindustan. ^[14]

According to Dr. Raza, Jats appear to be the original race of Sind valley, stretching from the mouth of Indus to as far as the valley of Peshawar. ^[10]Traditionally Jats of Sind consider their origin from the far northwest and claimed ancient Garh Gajni (modern Rawalpindi) as their original abode.^[15] Persian chronicler Firishtastrengthened this view and informs us that Jats were originally living near the river of the Koh-i-Jud (Salt Range) in northwest Punjab.^[16] The Jats then occupied the Indus valley and settled themselves on both the banks of the Indus River. By the fourth century region of Multan was under their control.^[10]Then they rose to the sovereign power and their ruler Jit Salindra, who promoted the renown of his race, started the Jat colonisation in Punjab and fortified the town Salpur/Sorpur, near Multan.^[17]

Ibn Hauqual mentions the area of their abode in between Mansura and Makran.^[18] By the end of seventh century, Jats were thickly populated in Deybal region.^[19]In the early eighth century, when the Arab commander Muhammad bin Qasim came to Sind, the Jats were living along both sides of the river Indus. Their main population was settled in the lower Sind, especially in the region of Brahmanabad (Mansura); Lohana (round the Brahmanabad) with their two territories Lakha, to the west of Lohana and Samma, to the south of Lohana; Nerun (modern Hyderabad); Dahlilah; Roar and Deybal. In the further east, their abode also extended in between Deybal, Kacheha (Qassa) and Kathiawar in Gujarat. In upper Sind they were settled in Siwistan (Schwan) and Alor/Aror region.^[10][20]

Thakur Deshraj mentions about the Buddhist Mauryan Jats rulers’ Rai Dynasty. He says that Rai was their title and their capital was at Aror which used to lie on the banks of the Indus River. Rai Meharsan II had a war with Badshah Nimroz of Iran in which he was killed. After him Rai Sahasi II became the king. When Rai Sahasi II fell ill, he called his minister to see the letters. The minister sent his munshi Chach for this purpose. The wisdom of Chach influenced the king and he appointed Chach to look after the palace. This way he got free entry into the palace. Chach developed illegal relations with the queen Suhanadi. Chach conspired with the Rani Suhanadi and killed Raja Sahsi Rai II and married with the queen and became ruler of Sindh starting a line of Brahmin ruler ship. ^[21]

Chachnama gives us comparative detailed information about the Jats of lower Sind (especially of Brahmanabad) in relation to Rai Chach and Muhamad bin Qasim. It says that after the subjugation of the fort of Brahmanabad Rai Chach humiliated the Jats and the Lohanas and punished their chiefs. He imposed stern and disgraceful regulations on them. ^[22], ^[23]

Chachnama does not specify the causes of this unusual treatment but it is not difficult to surmise them. Resentful of loss of their state, external interference, and sensitive to autocracy the self-governing Jats have, from earliest times, mostly showed an instinctive attachment to democratic ways.^[24], ^[25], ^[26] They were indifferent to the rigidity and exclusiveness in socio-religious structure and generally had a natural apathy to the monarchial form of the government, facts which gradually came to the forefront in the Hindu society under the hegemony of the Gupta Kings and thereafter. ^[27], ^[28], ^[29] In such a state of affairs, Chach, a high caste Brahman might have harboured a feeling of abhorrence for the defiant unorthodox Jats. ], ^[30]

We have a positive knowledge about the prevalence of Buddhism at that period in the Indus Valley, [M.Habib, “The Arab Conquest of Sind”, Islamic Culture Jan,1929], in which the Jats formed the bulk of the population. Hence it is not unlikely, that the Jats had definite leanings towards Buddhism, which was more agreeable to their ways and practices, which are reflected in the book by by Dr. Dharma Kirti, a modern Buddhist. ^[31] , ^[32]

It is also likely that the years long ^[33] stubborn resistance by Jats and others to Chach during the latter’s siege of Brahmanabad provided him the immediate provocation for adopting the repressive measures. ^[34]

Chachnama refers to the Jats again at the time of Muhammad bin Qasim’s invasion of Sind. Following a query from the conqueror about the position of the Jats under Chach and Dahir, Sisakar, the minister of the fallen King, apprised him of the restrictions imposed upon them. The minister added that it was incumbent upon them to supply escorts and conduct parties and serve as guides. If any injury befell a person on the road they had to answer for it. The minister went on that these people have the disposition of savages and always rebelled against their sovereign....Having heard this, Qasim retained the same regulations against the Jats ^[35] of the eastern areas but not against those of western, who probably as mercenaries, had joined the invader against the oppressive Dahir. ^[36], ^[37]

Kamil-ut-Tawarikh notices the Jats seizing upon the roads of Hajar and plundering the corn of Kaskar. They had planted posts in all directions towards the desert. At the orders of the reigning Khalifa, Alif bin Isa marched against them (219 A.H. – 834 AD). He was busy suppressing their chief Muhammad bin Usman for seven months. After killing many of the Jats, Ajif is said to have carried twenty seven thousand of them (including women and children) to Baghdad. ^[38], ^[39]

Fatuh-ul-Buldan alludes to the Jats having sway over the territory of Kikan. Amran, the governor of [[Sind], (sometimes after 221 A.H. – 836 AD) attacked and subjugated them. ^[40], ^[41]

Tabkai-i-Akbari writes that Mahmud of Ghazni undertook his seventeenth expedition in 417 A.H. against the Jats (of the region of the Jud hills) who had molested his army on its return from Somnath. Mahmud is said to have organized a fleet of 1400 boats, while Jats could gather 4000 boats (or 8000 according to some). A naval fight ensued between the two at Multan, in which the Jats were drowned. The rest were slain. ^[42]

Tarikh-us-Subuktigin describes that two or three thousand mounted Jats attacked the Ghazanvide commander Tilak (425 A.H. – 1034 AD) “chiefly for the purpose of seizing his property and money”, when he was perusing the rebel, Ahmad Nialtigin in the lower Punjab. They carried away his son and subsequently killed Ahmad also. The Jats returned his son and the head of the deceased only after getting a portion of the promised reward. ^[43], ^[44]

Taj-ul-Maasir refers to the rising of the Jats of Haryana (588 A.H. 1192 AD) under their leader Jatwan, following the defeat of Prithvi Raj Chauhan. Jatwan besieged the Muslim garrison at Hansi. Hearing about it, Qutb-ud-Din hurriedly moved against the Jats. Jatwan raised the siege to confront Qutb-ud-Din, but was beaten after a sanguinary fight. We are told that in samvat 1252 (1195 AD) a meeting of Sarva Khap Panchayat (Federal clan council of the Jats and other kindred people of Upper Doab, Haryana and neighbourng areas) was held in a forest between the villages of Bhoju and Banera under the chairmanship of Rao Vijay Rao of the village, Sisauli. This meeting decided among others to raise a big militia “to defend the Sarva Khap area against a suspected attack by Muhammad Ghori and to protect the area from loot and plunder. ^[45], ^[46], ^[47]

The Jats rose again when Timur invaded India. Malfuzat-i-Timuri testifies to his satisfaction over killing 2000 Jats of village Tohna near Sarsuti. He found them “demon like”, “robust”, “marauding” and “as numerous as ants, and locusts”. ^[48], ^[49] We learn that in order to hold deliberations over the problem of his invasion, aSarva Khap Panchayat meeting was held in samvat 1455 (1338 AD) in forest of Chugama under the president ship of Dev Pal Rana. It passed the resolutions that they should “vacate the villages, sending the children and women to the forests and that the able-bodied persons should take up arms and destroy the army of Timur. ^[50], ^[51] The Panchayat militia harassed the forces of Timur, while they were advancing from Meerut towards Haridwar. In the process the former lost 6000 men. ^[52], ^[53]

Another invader Babar found the Jats inhabiting a tract between Mil-ab and Bhera mountains. He remarks:

“If one goes into Hindustan the Jats and Gujars always pour down in countlesss hordes from hill and plain for loot in bullock and buffalo…When we reached Sialkot, they fell in tumult on poor and needy folks who were coming out of the town to our camp, and stripped them bare. I had the silly thieves sought for, and ordered two or three of them cur to pieces”. ^[54], ^[55]

It is said that in response of Rana Sanga’s call a Jat militia of 5000 from the upper Doab and another from the Brij participated in the battle of Sikari against Babar.^[56], ^[57]

Tarikh-i-Sher Shahi speaks of one redoubted Jat chief named Fateh Khan who ravaged the country of Lakhi Jungle and the road from Lahore to Panipat. Haibat Khan, the governor of the Punjab, crushed Fateh Khan and his associates.

The Jats late opposed, to their worth, Nadir shah (at Karnal) and Ahmad Shah Abdali (at Manupur). These examples suffice to show their tendency of opposing the foreign invaders. K.R.Kanungo rightly remarks:

"They (the Jats) have shown in all times – whether against Sultan Mahmud of Ghazni, or against Nadir Shah and Ahmad Shah Abdali – the same propensity to fall upon the rear of a retreating army undeterred by the heaviest odds, or the terror-inspiring fame of great conquerors. When encountered they showed the same obstinate and steady courage unmindful of the carnage on the field or of the miseries that were in store for them after defeat".

 

[Guest JATT]

Jatts are a great and ancient peoples.  Jatts therefore had associations with peoples and races and religions from millenia.  There links with early Islam and Arabs is no secret.  It appears that the Jats not only lived in different parts of the Arab lands, they also observed their social customs and traditions in their daily life and that the local people got influenced by them in different ways as the studies of Qazi Ather Mubarakpuri show.

Some Arab writers have referred to the Jats peculiar style of hair cut which had been adopted by some Arabs. Inclusing Mohammed who copied the hairstyle of Jats.  It is today the hairstyle still copied by some muslims.  In the same way some special clothes were known after them and so called al-Thiyab al-zuttia (Jats cloths), which were available in the Arab Markets.  Moreover, in the light of some references in the Arabic poetical works, that certain form of Indian song were known of the Arabs since the ancient period and these were most probably introduced by the Jats as this was called Song of Jats (Ghina al –Zutt) . These points are enough to suggest that the Jats were fully free in the Arab lands to follow and observe the customs and tradition of their native land. This is also supported by the fact that the Jats who had been living in the places around Basrah continued to talk in their original language at least up to the period of the pious caliphs. We are informed by the author of Majma al-Bahrain that they had once spoken even to the fourth caliph Ali in their own language.

It is very interesting that we come to know through the studies of Maulana Mubarakpuri that the Jats residing in Bahrain, Yemen and other coastal regions in a large number had influenced the local Arabs by their language to such extent that the latter lost the originality of their language. For the same reason the language of the people of the tribes of Banu Abd Qais and Azd was declared to be mixed due to their mingling and frequent interaction with Persian and Jat people.

In the same way, it is recorded in Jami-i-Tirmezi, the well known collection of Hadith that the famous Sahabi Hazrat Abdullah Ibn Masood once saw some persons in the company of Muhammad in Makkah, he observed that their hair and body structure is just like the Jats. There are also some other references in the Arabic source to the existence of the Jats in Madinah in that period. They also included a physician (Tabib) who was once consulted during the illness of Aisha, the wife of Muhammad. 

According to a Hadith, Abdulla Bin Masood, a companion of the Islamic prophet Muhammad saw some strangers with Muhammad and said that their features and physique were like those of Jats.^[35] This indicates that Jats may have been in Arabia even during Muhammad's time. It is mentioned in the Abadis i.e., the authentic traditions of Mohammad compiled by Imam Bukhari (d. 875 A.D - 256 A.H) that an Indian tribe of jats had settled in Arabia before Mohammad’s times . Bukhari also tells us that an Indian Raja (king) sent a jar of ginger pickles to Muhammad. This shows that the Indians resided in an adjacent area. Furthur writing about the period of the Companions in his book "Al adab al Mufarrad" has stated that once when Aisha (Muhammads's wife) fell ill, her nephews brought a Jat doctor for her treatment. We hear of them next when the Arab armies clashed with the Persian forces which were composed of Jat soldiers as well. The Persian Command Hurmuz used Jat soldiers against Khalid ibn al-Walid in the battle of 'salasal' of 634 A.D (12 hijri). This was the first time that Jats were captured by the Arabs. They put forward certain conditions for joining the Arab armies which were accepted, and on embracing Islam they were associated with different Arab tribes.^[37] This event proves that the first group of people from the Indian subcontinent to accept Islam were Jats who did it as early as 12 hijri (634 A.D) in the time of `Umar ibn al-Khattāb.

The Persian King Yazdgerd III had also sought the help of the Sind ruler who sent Jat soldiers and elephants which were used against the Arabs in the Battle of al-Qādisiyyah .

According to Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari (Tabari), Ali ibn Abi Talib A.S had employed Jats to guard Basra treasury during the battle of Jamal. Template:Cquote Amir Muawiya had settled them on the Syrian border to fight against the Romans. It is said that 4,000 Jats of Sind joined Mohammad Bin Qasim's army and fought against Raja Dahir. Sindhi Jats henceforth began to be regularly recruited in the Muslim armies

Further the famous jurist Abu Hanifa was known to be a Jat.  Some of the most famous people in Jurisprudence were jats.

This shows that Mohammed himself was influenced by Jats.

This shows that Mohamed’s wife was treated by Jat Doctors.

This shows that Jatts were a great warrior race that fought the Persians and arabs and were prized by prophets themselves.

This shows that Jats were the most trusted people who guarded the treasury in Basra.

[Guest JATT]

The Bhangi was one of Misal in Punjab. The leader of this Misal was a Jatt Sardar Hari Singh Dhillon

The Kanheya Misl (Kanhiya) was one of Misal in Punjab. The leader of this Misal was Sardar Jai Singh Kanhaiya a Sindu Jatt.

The Nakkai was one of Misal in Punjab. The leader of this Misal belonged to Nakka, Bhunewal, was its capital. A Jatt Hira Singh Sidhu was the founder of this Misl.

Dulewalia was one of Misal in Punjab. The leader of this Misal was a Jatt  Tara Singh Gheba who was the founder of this Misal.

Nawab Kapur Singh Virk was born into a Virk family of Jats in 1697. His native village was Kaloke, now in Sheikhupura district, in Punjab Pakistan.  He was also a misl and was also a Jatt.

I can go on please let me know if you need more information on Jatt’s great history.

[Guest JATT]

In Sikh history outside of Jatts there is no Sikh history.

Among the native muslims of this region outside of muslim Jatts there is no history of the local muslims except maybe a few Rajputs.

Among the native Hindu/araya samaj peoples outside of Jats and Rajputs there is no local history of note.

This is why we Jatts are rightly proud of our ancestors.  We are not stopping non Jatts from telling us about their history and we will listen to what they suffered at the hands of foreighners and we do feel sorry for the plight of others.  

[Guest guest]

13 hours ago, Guest 5KS said:

^But Mata Gujjar Kaur being from the Gujjar tribal ancestry proves that your lie about marrying in caste falls flat on its face

this is news to me

[Guest guest]

On 7 July 2016 at 1:21 PM, paapiman said:

Can you please explain where your great ancestors were, when Punjab was being enslaved by foreigners for more than 700 years?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

can you please explain where yours were?  oh thats right you are too ashamed even to admit belonging to them.  then you wonder why you are considered low caste...

if jatts so are bad, why are people of your caste so busy trying to steal their surnames etc?  too bad

[Guest guest]

On 7 July 2016 at 1:13 PM, paapiman said:

Sikhism is against both, racial and caste based pride.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

yes throw stones and then hide behind your 'sikhism is against pride..".  i think you're the one with (hurt) pride.

jealousy+pride= nasty combination.  other groups not sharing your self esteem problems irks you.  very petty.

[Guest guest]

11 hours ago, Guest JATT said:

In Sikh history outside of Jatts there is no Sikh history.

Among the native muslims of this region outside of muslim Jatts there is no history of the local muslims except maybe a few Rajputs.

Among the native Hindu/araya samaj peoples outside of Jats and Rajputs there is no local history of note.

This is why we Jatts are rightly proud of our ancestors.  We are not stopping non Jatts from telling us about their history and we will listen to what they suffered at the hands of foreighners and we do feel sorry for the plight of others.  

this is clearly not true.  and the idea that Jatts weren't Hindus at any point seems absurd.

[paapiman]

18 hours ago, Guest JATT said:

The Bhangi was one of Misal in Punjab. The leader of this Misal was a Jatt Sardar Hari Singh Dhillon

The Kanheya Misl (Kanhiya) was one of Misal in Punjab. The leader of this Misal was Sardar Jai Singh Kanhaiya a Sindu Jatt.

 

The Nakkai was one of Misal in Punjab. The leader of this Misal belonged to Nakka, Bhunewal, was its capital. A Jatt Hira Singh Sidhu was the founder of this Misl.

 

Dulewalia was one of Misal in Punjab. The leader of this Misal was a Jatt  Tara Singh Gheba who was the founder of this Misal.

 

Nawab Kapur Singh Virk was born into a Virk family of Jats in 1697. His native village was Kaloke, now in Sheikhupura district, in Punjab Pakistan.  He was also a misl and was also a Jatt.

I can go on please let me know if you need more information on Jatt’s great history.

If you read Vaaran of Bhai Gurdas jee, you will notice that most prominent Sikhs of that time were Khatirs. The 52 Rajput kings that were released by Satguru jee, trained Sikhs in warfare.

Agreed that most (more than 50%) of the misl leaders and warriors were of Jatt ancestry, but one cannot ignore other non-Jatt people.

• Bhangi misl had many Majhbi Sikhs in them
• The Nishanwalia misl had many Majbi Sikhs in them, as Rangretan da jatha had joined that misl.
• Ahluwalia misl possibly had many Sikhs of Khatri ancestry.
• Ramgariha misl had many Sikhs of Artisan castes in them.
• Dallewalia misl's founder was a Sikh of Khatri ancestry.
• In addition to that, during Baba Banda Singh Bahadur's times, most prominent Sikh leaders were of Khatri ancestry. 
   

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

1 hour ago, Guest guest said:

can you please explain where yours were?  oh thats right you are too ashamed even to admit belonging to them.  then you wonder why you are considered low caste...

All Punjabis suffered heavily from foreign rule and invasions. It is mostly Jatts and Chamars who sing songs of their bravery. They need to realize that it was the Sikh Satgurus, who turned us into warriors and they should sing their glories.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

12 hours ago, Guest JATT said:

In Sikh history outside of Jatts there is no Sikh history.

The above does not make sense, given the fact that the source of power for Sikhs is Gurbani. All our Satguru were non-Jatts. None of them even married into Jatts.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

19 hours ago, Guest JATT said:

 

Yes this is a bog topic and I can give yo all the information you want to show that Jatts were not enslaved like non Jatts.  Even in that 700 years you refer to Jatts were living as freemen and landlords. 

Do you seriously think that Syeds, Pathans. Lodhis, Afghans and Mughals considered Jatts as a huge threat? More than 700 years of foreign rule and no Jatt leader was able to take over Punjab. 

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

12 hours ago, Guest JATT said:

No you are wrong as just like Sikhs are not Hindus so Arya Samajis are not Hindus either.  In Pakistan nearly all the Jatts are muslims and in Harayana and UP most are Arya Samaj, very few Jatts are Hindus and they live in Rajasthan.

Arya Samaj is a Hindu organization. It was started by a Hindu Brahmin. Arya Samaj was instrumental in elevating the status of Jatts (Shudars) to Warriors. No wonder that Jatts (or Jaats) in Haryana have a high social status. Have a look at page 1 for evidence.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

12 hours ago, Guest JATT said:

Dulewalia was one of Misal in Punjab. The leader of this Misal was a Jatt  Tara Singh Gheba who was the founder of this Misal.

The above is false information. The founder of Dallewalia Misal was Sardar Gulab Singh jee. He was of Khatri origin. Sardar Tara Singh Ghaiba was appointed as his deputy.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[paapiman]

12 hours ago, Guest JATT said:

The Bhangi was one of Misal in Punjab. The leader of this Misal was a Jatt Sardar Hari Singh Dhillon

The Kanheya Misl (Kanhiya) was one of Misal in Punjab. The leader of this Misal was Sardar Jai Singh Kanhaiya a Sindu Jatt.

The Nakkai was one of Misal in Punjab. The leader of this Misal belonged to Nakka, Bhunewal, was its capital. A Jatt Hira Singh Sidhu was the founder of this Misl.

Dulewalia was one of Misal in Punjab. The leader of this Misal was a Jatt  Tara Singh Gheba who was the founder of this Misal.

Nawab Kapur Singh Virk was born into a Virk family of Jats in 1697. His native village was Kaloke, now in Sheikhupura district, in Punjab Pakistan.  He was also a misl and was also a Jatt.

The above great personalities became Sikhs. Their source of power was Khanday da Amrit (Gurbani), not their race or ancestry.

 

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