Harjots8963 Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Saw this on sikh24 YouTube channel... transfered the title sikh24 to here. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yCvzzdRspRE 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragmaala Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Yes , I saw it .I will take it in a positive way so that I do not become guilty of Slander. His avastha has risen that he is seeing God in everyone. Personally, thats how I will take it .Fateh! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh123456777 Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Yes , I saw it .I will take it in a positive way so that I do not become guilty of Slander. His avastha has risen that he is seeing God in everyone. Personally, thats how I will take it .Fateh!lol that's a good way of saying it. But still I'm heartbroken. Somebody should question him why he did this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnPathToSikhi Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 It seems he was tricked into the meeting. Video does not indicate much, though knowing the full context can provide some insight. Going by the social media, video seems to have had it's effect. Nonetheless social media news/people need to calm down. Bhai Balbir Singh Ji Raagi would continue to have the utmost respect from the Sikhs worldwide.Ashutosh is dead. Old video surfaces now. Why? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ragmaala Posted August 22, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 What I have noticed with Bhai Balbir Singh Ji is that he is very humble and always shows humility, and is ready to grab the other persons shakti, like how ramchandra did to parshu ram. I think he does not look at the other persons fault, he just respects anyone who calls themselves a saint even though they might be fake.I dont seen any ill intentions on part of Baba Ji, just a higher level of perception, plus we do not know the context either.It would be like why Bhai Ghanaiya Ji were first aiding the enemy... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BhagatSingh Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Yes , I saw it .I will take it in a positive way so that I do not become guilty of Slander. His avastha has risen that he is seeing God in everyone. Personally, thats how I will take it .Fateh!It looks like this too. In the video Bhai Sahib he recited that shabad "upon meeting the saint, I recognized God within". It seems his avastha got raised after meeting that guy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAadmin Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 These days anyone can take a clip out of any video and blow it out of proportions on social media. Lets wait for full unedited contextualize video of this and also wait clarification from bhai sahib ji himself. At this point, explanation provided by ragmala seems more plausible. In anycase, personally speaking- I am neither disappointed nor pleased by this video as for me personally, i tend to see parcharikhs, raagis, saints as pointers which point towards essence. I more concerned whats pointer pointing towards and if it point towards essence or not. For me at my depressed times, gurbani kirtan sung by bhai sahib ji provided me solace and thats all it matters for me at personal experiential level..I couldn't care less what bhai sahib ji does in his spare time, its really none of my business nor i care too much about it, all pointers (good /bad, polarity in life) once their purpose is fulfilled once they have pointed towards bigger message- essence cease to exist with name and form - 2 of parpanch are fallible anyway but what remains ? Sat chit anand underpinning of all pointers of name and shape and thats all there is to it. Life is less complicated for me with that kind perception. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dalsingh101 Posted August 22, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 In anycase, personally speaking- I am neither disappointed nor pleased by this video as for me personally, i tend to see parcharikhs, raagis, saints as pointers which point towards essence. I more concerned whats pointer pointing towards and if it point towards essence or not. I think people still haven't learned to stop exalting parcharaks to some super level; haven't people learned that they are likely to end up disappointed when the parcharak falls short of the lofty exaltation (not to mention the way this can mess up the parcharak themselves by feeding their ego). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Request to Sangat - Please avoid doing ninda (slander) of Raagi jee. Let's wait for an explanation by Raagi jee.N30 paaji said it well:Lets wait for full unedited contextualize video of this and also wait clarification from bhai sahib ji himself. Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 What I have noticed with Bhai Balbir Singh Ji is that he is very humble and always shows humility, and is ready to grab the other persons shakti, like how ramchandra did to parshu ram. I think he does not look at the other persons fault, he just respects anyone who calls themselves a saint even though they might be fake.I dont seen any ill intentions on part of Baba Ji, just a higher level of perception, plus we do not know the context either.It would be like why Bhai Ghanaiya Ji were first aiding the enemy... Bhai Balbir Singh Ji ....ramchandra ...parshu ramBhai Ghanaiya Ji .. Blame it on upbringing shall I? How someone can address the most revered Shri Ram chandra like this while using complete respect of someone being questioned here? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Bhai Balbir Singh Ji ....ramchandra ...parshu ramBhai Ghanaiya Ji .. Blame it on upbringing shall I? How someone can address the most revered Shri Ram chandra like this while using complete respect of someone being questioned here? Guest jee, Ragmala jee's intention was not to insult Sri Raam Chandar jee Maharaaj.Bhul chuk maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Ragmaala Posted August 22, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 I just love Bhai Sahib Ji , he is the cutest old man I have ever seen.Let the Nindaks keep doing their Janitors job .. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragmaala Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Ps. And the great King Sri Ram Chandar, son of great King Dasrath was also very humble. He touched the feet of the destroyer of Kshaatriya Clan, the Avtar of Shivji himself, Parshu Ram, and extracted all his power through touching his feet, destroying him forever. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragmaala Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 But also lets see what Guru Ji says about Parsu Ram & Ram Chandra as well :ਪਰਸ ਰਾਮੁ ਰੋਵੈ ਘਰਿ ਆਇਆ ॥ - Parsu ram came home cryingਐਸੀ ਦਰਗਹ ਮਿਲੈ ਸਜਾਇ ॥ਰੋਵੈ ਰਾਮੁ ਨਿਕਾਲਾ ਭਇਆ ॥ - Rama Chandra cried when he was sent to exile, separated from Sita & Lakhsman.ਸੀਤਾ ਲਖਮਣੁ ਵਿਛੁੜਿ ਗਇਆ ॥So even though they were avatars in their times, they still had basic human emotions and qualities.Whereas the Pooran Avtar In Kalyug Guru Nanak & Guru Gobind Singh ji did not even shed a tear when all his loved & obedient sons attained shaheedi.No doubt I respect all the ancient historical figures, great beings but also wanted to give the view point of Guru Nanak Sahib as well about Ram and Parsu-Ram. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 I just love Bhai Sahib Ji , he is the cutest old man I have ever seen.Let the Nindaks keep doing their Janitors job ..He maybe a cutie but I'm sure he could jhatka someone without a doubt. I love bhai sahibs kirtan, anandh! His brother was a Nihung? How many siblings did he have? Crystal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Crystal Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 I have never seen this video before to now...dhan guru pyare. https://youtu.be/MuMHGAOf1MA 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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paapiman Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) But also lets see what Guru Ji says about Parsu Ram & Ram Chandra as well :ਪਰਸ ਰਾਮੁ ਰੋਵੈ ਘਰਿ ਆਇਆ ॥ - Parsu ram came home cryingਐਸੀ ਦਰਗਹ ਮਿਲੈ ਸਜਾਇ ॥ਰੋਵੈ ਰਾਮੁ ਨਿਕਾਲਾ ਭਇਆ ॥ - Rama Chandra cried when he was sent to exile, separated from Sita & Lakhsman.ਸੀਤਾ ਲਖਮਣੁ ਵਿਛੁੜਿ ਗਇਆ ॥So even though they were avatars in their times, they still had basic human emotions and qualities.Whereas the Pooran Avtar In Kalyug Guru Nanak & Guru Gobind Singh ji did not even shed a tear when all his loved & obedient sons attained shaheedi.No doubt I respect all the ancient historical figures, great beings but also wanted to give the view point of Guru Nanak Sahib as well about Ram and Parsu-Ram. Bro, you have a great point. No previous avtaars can be compared to Satguru jee. Satguru Sri Guru Nanak Rai Dev Bedi jee Maharaaj is the greatest.Having said that, we must respect all previous avtaars by using a prefix (Sri) or a suffix (jee), rather than just their names. They do deserve respect.Bhul chuk maaf Edited August 22, 2015 by paapiman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh123456777 Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 http://dailysikhupdates.com/controversy-surrounding-bhai-balbir-singh-deepens-with-video-of-naamdhari-guru/ He is not out of the water just yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAadmin Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 http://dailysikhupdates.com/controversy-surrounding-bhai-balbir-singh-deepens-with-video-of-naamdhari-guru/ He is not out of the water just yet.Most puratan samparda's such as nirmale-hotimardan/rara sahib/ratwara sahib, some nihang jathebandiyas, had good relations with namdharis and their saints so thats nothing new so if bhai sahib is at namdhari dera he is simply following foot steps of previous predecessors and besides both naamdharis and bhai sahib balbir singh ji share very close common vidya such as gurmat sangeet vidya, its not unusual for bhai sahib ji to be at namdhari place due to common gurmat sangeet vidya shared by both. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh123456777 Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Most puratan samparda's such as nirmale-hotimardan/rara sahib/ratwara sahib, some nihang jathebandiyas, had good relations with namdharis and their saints so thats nothing new so if bhai sahib is at namdhari dera he is simply following foot steps of previous predecessors and besides both naamdharis and bhai sahib balbir singh ji share very close common vidya such as gurmat sangeet vidya, its not unusual for bhai sahib ji to be at namdhari place due to common gurmat sangeet vidya shared by both.yes but matha teking to a fake guru is acceptable? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAadmin Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 yes but matha teking to a fake guru is acceptable?Not sure namdhari guru is also teacher of gurmat sangeet, as senior to bhai balbir singh ji so perhaps from that context/perspective bhai sahib matha taik to him with that perception? I guess bhai sahib will explain further. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh123456777 Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Not sure namdhari guru is also teacher of gurmat sangeet, as senior to bhai balbir singh ji so perhaps from that context/perspective bhai sahib matha taik to him with that perception? I guess bhai sahib will explain further. Ragi Balbir Singh has been caught again in a video bowing to Namdhari 'Guru' and calling him 'Satguru'and saying his "janam has been safla" with seeing the Namdhari 'Guru' again. In it he also mentions having darshan of the previous Namdhari 'Guru'skip to 1hour 6min to see ragi praising there Namdhari 'Guru' and calling him 'Satguru'the ragis name appears on sceen too.Watch the whole video theres other moments where he is praising and bowing to him. This is what somebody said on sikh sangat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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