Popular Post ibrute Posted December 15, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 For those of us on their high horse of pride/ego should ponder on this shabad. SGGS Ang 224 ਗਉੜੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੧ ॥ Gauree, First Mehl: ਬ੍ਰਹਮੈ ਗਰਬੁ ਕੀਆ ਨਹੀ ਜਾਨਿਆ ॥ ਬੇਦ ਕੀ ਬਿਪਤਿ ਪੜੀ ਪਛੁਤਾਨਿਆ ॥ Brahma acted in pride, and did not understand. Only when he was faced with the downfall of the Vedas did he repent. ਜਹ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਸਿਮਰੇ ਤਹੀ ਮਨੁ ਮਾਨਿਆ ॥੧॥ Remembering God in meditation, the mind is conciliated. ||1|| ਐਸਾ ਗਰਬੁ ਬੁਰਾ ਸੰਸਾਰੈ ॥ ਜਿਸੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਮਿਲੈ ਤਿਸੁ ਗਰਬੁ ਨਿਵਾਰੈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ Such is the horrible pride of the world.The Guru eliminates the pride of those who meet Him. ||Pause|| ਬਲਿ ਰਾਜਾ ਮਾਇਆ ਅਹੰਕਾਰੀ ॥ ਜਗਨ ਕਰੈ ਬਹੁ ਭਾਰ ਅਫਾਰੀ ॥ Bal the King, in Maya and egotism, held his ceremonial feasts, but he was puffed up with pride. ਬਿਨੁ ਗੁਰ ਪੂਛੇ ਜਾਇ ਪਇਆਰੀ ॥੨॥ Without the Guru's advice, he had to go to the underworld. ||2|| ਹਰੀਚੰਦੁ ਦਾਨੁ ਕਰੈ ਜਸੁ ਲੇਵੈ ॥ ਬਿਨੁ ਗੁਰ ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਪਾਇ ਅਭੇਵੈ ॥ Hari Chand gave in charity, and earned public praise. But without the Guru, he did not find the limits of the Mysterious Lord. ਆਪਿ ਭੁਲਾਇ ਆਪੇ ਮਤਿ ਦੇਵੈ ॥੩॥ The Lord Himself misleads people, and He Himself imparts understanding. ||3|| ਦੁਰਮਤਿ ਹਰਣਾਖਸੁ ਦੁਰਾਚਾਰੀ ॥ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਨਾਰਾਇਣੁ ਗਰਬ ਪ੍ਰਹਾਰੀ ॥ The evil-minded Harnaakhash committed evil deeds. God, the Lord of all, is the Destroyer of pride. ਪ੍ਰਹਲਾਦ ਉਧਾਰੇ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਧਾਰੀ ॥੪॥ He bestowed His Mercy, and saved Prahlaad. ||4|| ਭੂਲੋ ਰਾਵਣੁ ਮੁਗਧੁ ਅਚੇਤਿ ॥ ਲੂਟੀ ਲੰਕਾ ਸੀਸ ਸਮੇਤਿ ॥ Raawan was deluded, foolish and unwise. Sri Lanka was plundered, and he lost his head. ਗਰਬਿ ਗਇਆ ਬਿਨੁ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਹੇਤਿ ॥੫॥ He indulged in ego, and lacked the love of the True Guru. ||5|| ਸਹਸਬਾਹੁ ਮਧੁ ਕੀਟ ਮਹਿਖਾਸਾ ॥ ਹਰਣਾਖਸੁ ਲੇ ਨਖਹੁ ਬਿਧਾਸਾ ॥ The Lord killed the thousand-armed Arjun, and the demons Madhu-keetab and Meh-khaasaa. He seized Harnaakhash and tore him apart with his nails. ਦੈਤ ਸੰਘਾਰੇ ਬਿਨੁ ਭਗਤਿ ਅਭਿਆਸਾ ॥੬॥ The demons were slain; they did not practice devotional worship. ||6|| ਜਰਾਸੰਧਿ ਕਾਲਜਮੁਨ ਸੰਘਾਰੇ ॥ ਰਕਤਬੀਜੁ ਕਾਲੁਨੇਮੁ ਬਿਦਾਰੇ ॥ The demons Jaraa-sandh and Kaal-jamun were destroyed.Rakat-beej and Kaal-naym were annihilated. ਦੈਤ ਸੰਘਾਰਿ ਸੰਤ ਨਿਸਤਾਰੇ ॥੭॥ Slaying the demons, the Lord saved His Saints. ||7|| ਆਪੇ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਸਬਦੁ ਬੀਚਾਰੇ ॥ He Himself, as the True Guru, contemplates the Shabad. ਦੂਜੈ ਭਾਇ ਦੈਤ ਸੰਘਾਰੇ ॥ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਸਾਚਿ ਭਗਤਿ ਨਿਸਤਾਰੇ ॥੮॥ Because of the love of duality, God killed the demons. By their true devotion, the Gurmukhs have been saved. ||8|| ਬੂਡਾ ਦੁਰਜੋਧਨੁ ਪਤਿ ਖੋਈ ॥ ਰਾਮੁ ਨ ਜਾਨਿਆ ਕਰਤਾ ਸੋਈ ॥ Sinking down, Durodhan lost his honor. He did not know the Creator Lord. ਜਨ ਕਉ ਦੂਖਿ ਪਚੈ ਦੁਖੁ ਹੋਈ ॥੯॥ One who makes the Lord's humble servant suffer, shall himself suffer and rot. ||9|| ਜਨਮੇਜੈ ਗੁਰ ਸਬਦੁ ਨ ਜਾਨਿਆ ॥ ਕਿਉ ਸੁਖੁ ਪਾਵੈ ਭਰਮਿ ਭੁਲਾਨਿਆ ॥ Janameja did not know the Word of the Guru's Shabad. Deluded by doubt, how could he find peace? ਇਕੁ ਤਿਲੁ ਭੂਲੇ ਬਹੁਰਿ ਪਛੁਤਾਨਿਆ ॥੧੦॥ Making a mistake, for even an instant, you shall regret and repent later on. ||10|| ਕੰਸੁ ਕੇਸੁ ਚਾਂਡੂਰੁ ਨ ਕੋਈ ॥ ਰਾਮੁ ਨ ਚੀਨਿਆ ਅਪਨੀ ਪਤਿ ਖੋਈ ॥ Kansa the King and his warriors Kays and Chandoor had no equals. But they did not remember the Lord, and they lost their honor. ਬਿਨੁ ਜਗਦੀਸ ਨ ਰਾਖੈ ਕੋਈ ॥੧੧॥ Without the Lord of the Universe, no one can be saved. ||11|| ਬਿਨੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਰਬੁ ਨ ਮੇਟਿਆ ਜਾਇ ॥ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਧਰਮੁ ਧੀਰਜੁ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਇ ॥ Without the Guru, pride cannot be eradicated. Following the Guru's Teachings, one obtains Dharmic faith, composure and the Lord's Name. ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਮੁ ਮਿਲੈ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਇ ॥੧੨॥੯॥ O Nanak, singing the Glories of God, His Name is received. ||12||9|| 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Satguru jee hates egoistic people, whether they take pride in their worldly feats or spiritual ones. Ego is the most powerful of all Vikars. People, who are infected by other four vikars, can be relatively forgiven with ease by Satguru jee. Ang 560 ਹਉਮੈ ਨਾਵੈ ਨਾਲਿ ਵਿਰੋਧੁ ਹੈ ਦੁਇ ਨ ਵਸਹਿ ਇਕ ਠਾਇ ॥ Ego is at variance with the Name: the two dwell not in one place. Bhul chul maaf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Bhagat needs to analyse the OP! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BhagatSingh Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 6 hours ago, dalsingh101 said: Bhagat needs to analyse the OP! How come? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 You've always said that Brahm referred to paratma, this bani seems to suggest otherwise? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BhagatSingh Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 4 hours ago, dalsingh101 said: You've always said that Brahm referred to paratma, this bani seems to suggest otherwise? You have to understand it in terms of "separate religions", otherwise, you'll get stuck in a tangled mess of conflicting stories and viewpoints. The way to untangle the mess is to untangle the different religions involved. This will help to understand why authors are saying what they are saying. The name Brahm and the stories that those Brahmi gurus taught their sikhs were meant to teach their sikhs about Primal One. However for other religions this was not the case. For the gurus of other religions, Brahm was just a character, whom these Brahmi guys were treating as Primal One. The gurus of other religions, had their own stories which involved Brahm as a character that interacted with the Primal One. To repeat - One group is teaching about the qualities of the Primal One through certain stories, and calling him Brahm. The other groups sees Brahm and his stories as only a character, and not referring to Primal One. The other groups sometimes use the Brahm character to teach about qualities of Primal One, who they call with a different name such as Vishnu, Shiv, Allah, etc. And this leads to a duality which previously did not exist, and does not exist for the Brahmi religion. Let me know if I have totally confused the hell out of you yet. lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Beautiful analogy given in Katha by Gyani Avtar Singh jee Badnikalanwale. Pride of worldly success are like iron leg cuffs Pride of spiritual success are like gold leg cuffs Both are still cuffs. Do you think that a slave/prisoner will be happy, if his cuffs are made of gold? Both these prides are very lethal and big barriers, in the journey towards Sri Satguru jee. Bhul chuk maaf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Quote For the gurus of other religions, Brahm was just a character, whom these Brahmi guys were treating as Primal One. And what religions were these? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BhagatSingh Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 15 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said: And what religions were these? Vaishnav religions, Shaiv religions, Shakat religions, and a whole bunch of others. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 ANG 1089 ਹਰਿ ਜੀਉ ਅਹੰਕਾਰੁ ਨ ਭਾਵਈ ਵੇਦ ਕੂਕਿ ਸੁਣਾਵਹਿ ॥ The Vedas proclaim aloud that the Reverend Lord likes not pride. ਅਹੰਕਾਰਿ ਮੁਏ ਸੇ ਵਿਗਤੀ ਗਏ ਮਰਿ ਜਨਮਹਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਆਵਹਿ ॥੯॥ They, who die of ego, go bereft of salvation. They die, are born and come again. Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 Very strong language used by Sri Satguru jee: ANG 81 ਵਿਚਿ ਹਉਮੈ ਕਰਮ ਕਮਾਵਦੇ ਜਿਉ ਵੇਸੁਆ ਪੁਤੁ ਨਿਨਾਉ ॥ They, who do deeds in ego, are like a prostitute son, who has no name. Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 ANG 969 ਕਰੈ ਗੁਮਾਨੁ ਚੁਭਹਿ ਤਿਸੁ ਸੂਲਾ ਕੋ ਕਾਢਨ ਕਉ ਨਾਹੀ ॥ One who takes pride in himself is stuck with thorns; no one can pull them out. Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Beautiful line by Bhai Saab Bhai Gurdaas jee Maharaaj: ਕਰਿ ਕੇ ਨੀਚ ਸਦਾਵਣਾ ਤਾ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਲੇਖੈ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਪਾਈ। Kari Kay Neech Sadaavanaa Taan Prabhu Laykhai Andari Paaee. करि के नीच सदावणा तां प्रभु लेखै अंदरि पाई । If somebody now, in spite of being a doer, erases from his self this sense and prefers to be called lowly, only then he can remain in the good books of the Lord. 7 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੧੬ ਪੰ. ੭ Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 ANG 1417 ਮੇਰਾ ਮੇਰਾ ਕਰਦੇ ਪਚਿ ਮੁਏ ਹਉਮੈ ਕਰਤ ਵਿਹਾਇ ॥ Screaming, "Mine, mine!", they rot and die; they pass their lives in egotism. Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 ANG 1364 ਲਖ ਘਾਟੀਂ ਊਂਚੌ ਘਨੋ ਚੰਚਲ ਚੀਤ ਬਿਹਾਲ ॥ Climbing thousands of steep hillsides, the fickle mind becomes miserable. ਨੀਚ ਕੀਚ ਨਿਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਘਨੀ ਕਰਨੀ ਕਮਲ ਜਮਾਲ ॥੯॥ Look at the humble, lowly mud, O Jamaal: the beautiful lotus grows in it. ||9|| Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 Very interesting anecdote from the life of Srimaan Bhai saab Bhai Vir Singh jee illustrating the dangers of Ego. Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Strong verses from Sri Dasam Granth Sahib (Sri Brahma Avtar Sahib). Almighty Lord's speech to Brahma jee after his repentance (Meditation for 1 million years) for the heinous sin of Pride. ਤਬ ਭਯੋ ਸੁ ਐਸ ਉਚਾਰ ॥ ਹਉ ਆਹਿ ਗ੍ਰਬ ਪ੍ਰਹਾਰ ॥ ਮਮ ਗਰਬ ਕਹੂੰ ਨ ਛੋਰਿ ॥ ਸਭ ਕੀਨ ਜੇਰ ਮਰੋਰਿ ॥੩੩॥ Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 Danger of pride illustrated by a sakhi of Rikhi Ved Vyas jee. Narrated by Sant Baba Gurbachan Singh je Khalsa Bhindranwale. https://kam1825.podbean.com/e/rishi-vyas/ Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 From Sri Aasaa Kee Vaar Sahib jee ਹਉਮੈ ਬੂਝੈ ਤਾ ਦਰੁ ਸੂਝੈ ॥ (466-15) When ego is extinguished, then the Lord's gate is known. Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 From Sri Aasa Kee Vaar Sahib jee ਜਾ ਰਹਣਾ ਨਾਹੀ ਐਤੁ ਜਗਿ ਤਾ ਕਾਇਤੁ ਗਾਰਬਿ ਹੰਢੀਐ ॥ (473-12) Since one is not destined to remain in this world anyway, why should he ruin himself in pride? Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 From Sri Aasa Kee Vaar Sahib jee ਆਪੁ ਗਵਾਇ ਸੇਵਾ ਕਰੇ ਤਾ ਕਿਛੁ ਪਾਏ ਮਾਨੁ ॥ But if he eliminates his self-conceit and then performs service, he shall be honored. Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted June 15, 2018 Report Share Posted June 15, 2018 From Sri Assa Kee vaar Sahib jee ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਪੂਰਾ ਆਪੇ ਹੋਵੈ ਘਟਿ ਨ ਕੋਈ ਆਖੈ ॥ Everyone calls himself perfect; none call themselves imperfect. ਪਤਿ ਪਰਵਾਣਾ ਪਿਛੈ ਪਾਈਐ ਤਾ ਨਾਨਕ ਤੋਲਿਆ ਜਾਪੈ ॥੨॥ If the weight of honor is placed on the scale, then, O Nanak, one sees his true weight. ||2|| Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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