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Sri Charitropakhyan Sahib jee Series - Charitar #10

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So what do we make of these two charitra ? For the first time we see a charitar that continues (does it continue in the next also?) Also we get to see the same characters from different angles/shots/life story events.

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I can't quite remember the previous charitar but i think the maid was more passive in the first one whereas here she is more active being agent of her own life. two facets of the same person.

Also Paapiman has asked that authorship is not discussed in these topics so respect his wish. Add constructive things, new angles of the story etc. As we have seen in earlier charitras, on the outside the stories appear to regard sex and lust but looking deeper they are about a king's responsobilities towards his citizens, factors that will lead a king to become partial in his verdicts and justice, the rights and crossing of limits of a ruler etc....  So dont take these stories at face values but look at the subtle hints given here and there.

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What we have in the 2nd part is the conclusion to the story. The first part has given us the the scenario in which both women found themselves after their practice of deceit and desire for revenge. This 2nd tells us how the revenge was enacted, with the conclusion that the maid took her revenge on both her mistress and the King who refused her her desires.

The first step the maid took out of revenge was to get the Sayyad to come to her mistresses house and give him wealth from that house. In Panjabi we have a saying : "ghar lutta liya". It means destroying the house from within. This is part of the message the wise Minister is  giving to the King.

 

The 2nd part of her revenge was to get both killed/destroyed. To me it seems like the wise Minister is telling the King that not only did the maid, out of revenge destroy her mistress but she also destroyed the King. The reference here is to his Queen not only having the King's son executed under a false charge, but also destroying the King himself by eliminating his heir to the dynasty, meaning the destruction of the dynasty.

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Towards the end of the Charitar there is mention of some supernatural entities, one of then is 'Jachh' or Yaksha which are spirits with extraordinary powers. In classical Sanskrit poet Kalidas' epic poem Meghdoot there is the story of a Yaksha who is so engrossed in sensual pleasure with his wife that he neglects his worldly duties and is as a result banished far away from his wife. So, i think the point being made in the Charitar is that when people are engrossed in Maya and neglect Dharma ie their duties bad consequences will follow. So looking at Charitars as anti-this or that is not productive instead they are a statement of how Maya (the 'Nakati' in Bhagat Kabir ji's words) can lead us astray.

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On 3/30/2016 at 2:31 PM, Jatro said:

Towards the end of the Charitar there is mention of some supernatural entities, one of then is 'Jachh' or Yaksha which are spirits with extraordinary powers. In classical Sanskrit poet Kalidas' epic poem Meghdoot there is the story of a Yaksha who is so engrossed in sensual pleasure with his wife that he neglects his worldly duties and is as a result banished far away from his wife. 

Bro, do you have more details regarding the story above? Also, can you please elaborate on Yakshas (ਜਛ)?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

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On 30/03/2016 at 7:31 PM, Jatro said:

Towards the end of the Charitar there is mention of some supernatural entities, one of then is 'Jachh' or Yaksha which are spirits with extraordinary powers.

 

The Minister is telling the King, that all these beings with supernatural or heightened powers were unable to save themselves from similair traps what could a human do to save himself?

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2 hours ago, paapiman said:

Bro, do you have more details regarding the story above? Also, can you please elaborate on Yakshas (ਜਛ)?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Sure bro, the story is basically written in verse, its primary aim is not instructional but the account of the Yaksha given in it may help us understand what Guru Gobind Singh Ji is pointing towards. It is related to a Yaksha who, despite being a supernatural/divine entity, is suffering because of banishment which has separated him from his wife and sends a cloud to carry his message to her. I'm attaching some pics which give the meaning of Yaksha and first few verses of the poem which describe the condition of the Yaksha. 

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45 minutes ago, chatanga1 said:

 

The Minister is telling the King, that all these beings with supernatural or heightened powers were unable to save themselves from similair traps what could a human do to save himself?

Yes bro, that seems to be the message. It puts the seriousness of the situation in perspective. Of course these cultural references may have deeper meaning which only someone well read in Indian classical literature could tell, i know very little about it.

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OMG. I'm just watching "The Simpsons" episode "Homer of Seville" and guess what.

This women disrobes in front of Homer but he goes to call out to his wife. The naked woman says "Homer, if you call your wife, I'll tell her you tried to attack me.."

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Did the Syed knew that he was about to kill the King, or he killed him thinking of him as a robber/intruder? Is it possible that the Syed was also tricked by Chitarkala to kill the king?

It is also interesting to note that the name of the King is mentioned in this Charitar, but is not present in the previous Charitar, where his character is introduced.

ਹੋ ਸੁਘਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਰਾਜਾ ਕੋ ਹਨਿ ਹੀ ਡਾਰਿਯੋ ॥੯॥

 

Bhul chuk maaf

 

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On 10/19/2017 at 10:00 AM, paapiman said:

Did the Syed knew that he was about to kill the King, or he killed him thinking of him as a robber/intruder? Is it possible that the Syed was also tricked by Chitarkala to kill the king?

It is also interesting to note that the name of the King is mentioned in this Charitar, but is not present in the previous Charitar, where his character is introduced.

ਹੋ ਸੁਘਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਰਾਜਾ ਕੋ ਹਨਿ ਹੀ ਡਾਰਿਯੋ ॥੯॥

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Let's assume that the Syed was tricked into killing Sughar Singh.

ਸੁਘਰ - can mean intelligent or wise.

One can be an illiterate, but still be wise. Now, this is the case with Hanuwant Singh. Even though, he is illiterate, he still did not commit adultery with his step mother (proving that he is a wise man). He knew that this was a sinful act. It is possible that the wise minister has purposely used this name (Sughar Singh) in this tale to prove a point to Chitar Singh.

Two interpretations are possible now:

First, the wise minister might be trying to tell Chitar Singh that the way Syed was tricked into killing Sughar Singh (thinking of him as a thief/intruder), the same way your wife is trying to get your son killed on the false pretense of him being a rapist.

Second, the wise minister might be trying to tell that Sughar Singh (even though being intelligent) ended up dead, what chance does your son (who is an illiterate), have against a deceptive person?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

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2 hours ago, paapiman said:

Let's assume that the Syed was tricked into killing Sughar Singh.

ਸੁਘਰ - can mean intelligent or wise.

One can be an illiterate, but still be wise. Now, this is the case with Hanuwant Singh. Even though, he is illiterate, he still did not commit adultery with his step mother (proving that he is a wise man). He knew that this was a sinful act. It is possible that the wise minister has purposely used this name (Sughar Singh) in this tale to prove a point to Chitar Singh.

Two interpretations are possible now:

First, the wise minister might be trying to tell Chitar Singh that the way Syed was tricked into killing Sughar Singh (thinking of him as a thief/intruder), the same way your wife is trying to get your son killed on the false pretense of him being a rapist.

Second, the wise minister might be trying to tell that Sughar Singh (even though being intelligent) ended up dead, what chance does your son (who is an illiterate), have against a deceptive person?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Well done well spotted Singh!!

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