Discussion on this Gurbani Pankti ?

[Ragmaala]

wjkk wjkf to all!

I wanted to hear you guys thoughts on this Gubani line

ਅਉਖਧ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਮੂਲੁ ਮਨ ਏਕੈ ਜੇ ਕਰਿ ਦ੍ਰਿੜੁ ਚਿਤੁ ਕੀਜੈ ਰੇ ॥

O mind, there is only the One medicine, mantra and healing herb - center your consciousness firmly on the One Lord.

ਜੇ ਕਰ ਦ੍ਰਿੜ ਚਿਤ ਕਰੀਏ ਤੌ ਅਗ੍ਯਾਨ ਰੋਗ ਕੀ ਨਿਵਿਰਤੀ ਕੋ ਅਉਖਧ ਔਰ ਕਾਮਾਦੀ ਸਰਪੋਂ ਕੀ ਵਿਖ ਨਿਵਿਰਤਕ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ (ਮੂਲੁ) ਸਰਬ ਕੀ ਆਦਿ ਰੂਪ ਏਕ ਵਾਹਗੁਰੂ ਮਨ ਮੇਂ ਹੀ ਹੈ॥

6522 ਗਉੜੀ (ਮ: ੧) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੫੬ ਪੰ. ੩
Raag Gauri Chaytee Guru Nanak Dev

ਜਨਮ ਜਨਮ ਕੇ ਪਾਪ ਕਰਮ ਕੇ ਕਾਟਨਹਾਰਾ ਲੀਜੈ ਰੇ ॥੧॥

Take to the Lord, the Destroyer of the sins and karma of past incarnations. ||1||

ਜਨਮ ਜਨਮਾਂਤ੍ਰਾਂ ਕੇ ਜੋ ਸੰਚਿਤ ਪਾਪ ਕਰਮ ਹੈਂ ਤਿਨੋਂ ਕੇ ਨਿਵਿਰਤ ਕਰਨੇ ਵਾਲਾ ਜੋ ਨਾਮ ਹੈ ਤਿਸ ਕੋ ਲਈਐ॥੧॥

 

Which mantar are Guru ji referring to ?  The Mool mantra or Naam in general.

I personally take it as an intruction for myself to jap Moolmantra. Should I just go with my personal intuition.

What are your thoughts ?

Thanks

 

 

[Lucky]

Waheguru

 

We can discuss this pangti or even the many more that are similar in Raag Gauri Cheti.

Gauri Cheti instructs us about ALL the different things that we go looking and asking for. Coincidentallly, you are doing exactly this with your own question??......what??

Yes,..you have fallen into the chase of our jumping mind which is "always" trying to run in different directions to find solutions itself whilst at the same time, it will disregard Guru's Gurmat..

 

Your question is what I usually refer to as  "jumping the gun" .like when our mind tries jumping to a solution without paying attention to careful detail.

Anyhow, here's my understanding and answer to your question............

...... if you look into the pangi carefully, you will notice that Guruji is actually telling you NOT go looking for mantars!

 

Let's have a look at the 2 pangti's of this verse to see if you understand what I mean and if you buy it or not.

 

Ang 156

ਗਉੜੀ  ਚੇਤੀ  ਮਹਲਾ  ੧  ॥
Ga▫oṛī cẖeṯī mėhlā 1.
Gauree Chaytee, First Mehl:

ਅਉਖਧ  ਮੰਤ੍ਰ  ਮੂਲੁ  ਮਨ  ਏਕੈ  ਜੇ  ਕਰਿ  ਦ੍ਰਿੜੁ  ਚਿਤੁ  ਕੀਜੈ  ਰੇ  ॥
A▫ukẖaḏẖ manṯar mūl man ekai je kar ḏariṛ cẖiṯ kījai re.
O mind, there is only the One medicine, mantra and healing herb - center your consciousness firmly on the One Lord.

ਜਨਮ  ਜਨਮ  ਕੇ  ਪਾਪ  ਕਰਮ  ਕੇ  ਕਾਟਨਹਾਰਾ  ਲੀਜੈ  ਰੇ  ॥੧॥
Janam janam ke pāp karam ke kataṇhārā lījai re. ||1||
Take to the Lord, the Destroyer of the sins and karma of past incarnations. ||1|| 

 

I know that the English translation isn't precise, but it seems to be a little extra and using words not included in the original. Maybe the intention was that it may help us feel and understand Guru Nanak ji's message?... (I've no idea) .  I think that the off-tangent English translation may be a little more explanatory for doo-daahs like me.

I'm just going to make note of the pangti's 3 mentions of "medicine", "mantra" and "healing herb" and try to differentiate, so that we can be on the same page.

Aukadh means to us a variety of 'consumed' prescription medicines let's say...like some capsules/tablets etc.. which are consumed on the advice of a practitioner. In my opinion, I think it's easier to say that the mention of 'medicine' in the translation can be referenced to some physical or acknowledged symptoms that one may experience like a pain, discomfort or weakness etc... 

Then, on the other hand, we have our problems and pains that are not medical, but are about worry, anxiety, family, relationship, etc.....the usual crappy bothersome ones that deprive our sleep and disrupt our relaxed and calm states.. For these, we go looking for a different kind of remedy..--> the fields of jantar mantars and all that.  AND Yes, Guru Nanak ji is referring to the variety of different mantars that can be prescribed.....like the mantar for this and the mantar for that, .. and different mantars for different people in the family...etc. ..

Lastly, the mention of "healing herb" ,which I think (I may be wrong!),... is referenced by the translator to distinguish it from healing applications like cream and ointments.  Prescribed herbs and plants that are applied directly to problematic body area like skin, muscle rubs, eye infections and all alike.

 

Guru Nanak ji is telling is that we don't have to go an play some lottery luck to get the right single curing medicine, mantra or topical med.... but for ALL the problems that our mind may experience,  we need ONLY the ONE-SINGLE name of the ONE-ALMIGHTY.. This name, as per Guru Nanak teachings can be allah, ram, har, kudrat or whatever you refer to him as.  It doesn't matter whether a mantar means ram or har, because Akaal purakh doesn't need a name to label him. Gurbani tells us that even if you write a scribe with all the possible names for him: it could never be long enough to do any justice and the scriber will just regret.

So, you did exactly what the pangti tells you not to do. Your minds reaction was to find that correct mantar to help heal yourself from everything.. Guru Nanak ji is saying that "You only have to FOCUS your chit(consciousness) towards the ONE Lord"  To do this then, you may find some mantar helpful. Mantar can be mool mantar, waheguru jap, har har, ram ram, ..anything...   It's just that as per Sikh maryada, we have a designated "waheguru" mantar. This mantar helps keep the uniformity amongst us Sikhs. Even in Guru Nanak ji's time people would claim that their God or their devi/devta was better than the other's.  The last thing we need in today's age is further foolish claims that "my mantra is better than theirs"

The pangti says to "Darir chit kijai" to "Darir" and make your consciousness "pakkah" and permanent in the ONE lord, and him only.

 

Going further to the 2nd line

ਅਉਖਧ  ਮੰਤ੍ਰ  ਮੂਲੁ  ਮਨ  ਏਕੈ  ਜੇ  ਕਰਿ  ਦ੍ਰਿੜੁ  ਚਿਤੁ  ਕੀਜੈ  ਰੇ  ॥
A▫ukẖaḏẖ manṯar mūl man ekai je kar ḏariṛ cẖiṯ kījai re.
O mind, there is only the One medicine, mantra and healing herb - center your consciousness firmly on the One Lord.

 

ਜਨਮ  ਜਨਮ  ਕੇ  ਪਾਪ  ਕਰਮ  ਕੇ  ਕਾਟਨਹਾਰਾ  ਲੀਜੈ  ਰੇ  ॥੧॥
Janam janam ke pāp karam ke kataṇhārā lījai re. ||1||
Take to the Lord, the Destroyer of the sins and karma of past incarnations. ||1|| 

I tend to see it as what it tells us directly. -That the paaps and sins from all our previous janams and the paaps from the past in this lifetime can also be wiped if we darir our consciousness and make it 'pakkah' in the single Almighty Akaal Purakh.  That itself is ANOTHER healing and aukhaad we need but we never ask for. We only ask for the medicine-dwaiyee, mantar and healing balms mentioned in the 1st pangtee....the  "needs" our mind tells us for the Here and Now. However, we are carrying this heavy weight of bad deeds from janam janam-lifetimes.

 

[Ragmaala]

@Lucky   waheguru ji!   that is a very deep insight. Thanks . We need more discussions like these.

ਜੇ ਕਰ ਦ੍ਰਿੜ ਚਿਤ ਕਰੀਏ ਤੌ ਅਗ੍ਯਾਨ ਰੋਗ ਕੀ ਨਿਵਿਰਤੀ ਕੋ ਅਉਖਧ ਔਰ ਕਾਮਾਦੀ ਸਰਪੋਂ ਕੀ ਵਿਖ ਨਿਵਿਰਤਕ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ (ਮੂਲੁ) ਸਰਬ ਕੀ ਆਦਿ ਰੂਪ ਏਕ ਵਾਹਗੁਰੂ ਮਨ ਮੇਂ ਹੀ ਹੈ॥ ਜਨਮ ਜਨਮਾਂਤ੍ਰਾਂ ਕੇ ਜੋ ਸੰਚਿਤ ਪਾਪ ਕਰਮ ਹੈਂ ਤਿਨੋਂ ਕੇ ਨਿਵਿਰਤ ਕਰਨੇ ਵਾਲਾ ਜੋ ਨਾਮ ਹੈ ਤਿਸ ਕੋ ਲਈਐ॥੧॥

So basically Guru ji is saying to get your chit pakka in One... which can be done through Waheguru, Moolmantra or Gurbani. Individuals choice right.

Yeah, Gurbani is deep ocean, the more time we spend on it, the more we will learn & find new insights.

Dhan Guru Nanak!

 

[Lucky]

Yep, it's your choice with whatever you find suitable. Remember that Man-tar in simplified words is Man=Mind ..and Tar=tool..  Man-tar is a tool to help settle the consciousness/chit in a Single place....and that place is in sift salah and pure attention  towards the ONE Akaal Purakh.

Don't get lost and pre-occupied with mantars or you will keep going in roundabouts in that single place..

Get your Chit pakkha, and your entrance into sacha darbar will start to become pakkha as well.

 

[Ragmaala]

6 hours ago, Lucky said:

Get your Chit pakkha, and your entrance into sacha darbar will start to become pakkha as well.

waheguru ji