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Dhadrianwala Vs Great Sikhs


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22 hours ago, chatanga1 said:

 

So is the word “Guru”. Does that mean now that we are all Brahmans for using a Brahman term @angy15?

Thats a very foolish  argument.

Your knowledge   of Sikhism and Hinduism is  not sufficient to distinguish between Brahmanical and Sikh practices to understand how Brahmanism has crept into Sikhism. You are an example of that  what Dr Dhillion rightly called  a virus!!!  .

You have all the right to practice & preach you faith as you will. So does Ranjit Singh Dhadrianwala

Meanwhile  I am  waiting for  the proof  where Dhadrianwala  has insulted the contents and teaching  of SGGS which makes him anti Gurmat.

 

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1 hour ago, angy15 said:

Thats a very foolish  argument.

Why? You are pointing out similair practices in Gurmat and other religions and saying it is the same. So what is different from my "foolish argument" and your "foolish argument?" 

 

1 hour ago, angy15 said:

Your knowledge   of Sikhism and Hinduism is  not sufficient to distinguish between Brahmanical and Sikh practices to understand how Brahmanism has crept into Sikhism.

So help me by telling me what exactly is this brahmanism you keep talking about but can't explain?

That's the 11th time I've asked you.

 

1 hour ago, angy15 said:

You are an example of that  what Dr Dhillion rightly called  a virus!!!  .

You mean a virus that isn't a virus? Great, so I'm a virus that isn't a virus. I'm even more confused now. Can you help me?

 

1 hour ago, angy15 said:

You have all the right to practice & preach you faith as you will.

 

Of course I do. So do you. Did  it escape your notice that no police came round after you translated a line of Gurbani and left out the word "Nanak?"

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On 7/2/2018 at 12:10 AM, angy15 said:

Again it brings to my analysis which I mentioned  earlier

As mentioned earlier there are two school of thoughts emerging

  1. Sampardias based on traditional interpretation based on Sakhis/Stories 

   2. Sikh Missionary   based on Prof Sahib Singh and other modern scholars(Tat Gurmat,)

It is up to Dhadri to believe or not in that sakhi, but Daas has a question for you.

Have you figured out the mistake which Dhadri made in that tidbit? 

 

Bhul chuk maaf

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1 hour ago, GuestSingh said:

Fools. You are all Bhamans who insult all the mahapurakhs.

And who is a mahapurakh? Anyone some weak-willed, starry-eyed, born to follow person likes the aura of? 

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6 hours ago, paapiman said:

It is up to Dhadri to believe or not in that sakhi, but Daas has a question for you.

Veerji whether he believes in this story or not.I guess you all surely believe this sakhi. Now he is asking all  valid questions listen at  2:30 .You all are best to answer all these .

a.Which generations is going on right now.

b. Who are those people .Where do they live.

Regarding Second part of the question regarding Kulee we will discuss it according to Gurmat.

But first plz let us find the  the lucky family who were blessed   in the video .Very Curious to know .

 

Satnam 

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2 hours ago, GuestSingh said:

Mahapurakhs are Bramgiyanis.

And how does a person who has low self-esteem and a proclivity to follow others know that the person is not conning them? 

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2 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

And how does a person who has low self-esteem and a proclivity to follow others know that the person is not conning them? 

In my opinion, a person with low self-esteem should really see a psychiatrist and not a Mahapurakh or a Brahmgiani. Mahapurakhs or Brahmgiyanies show us how to walk the path that unites us with God. On the other hand, psyciatrists can help us how to work on our low self esteem with tools specifically designed to cure low self esteem or any other mental affliction.  Mahapurakhs will recommend naam simran for seekers of spirituality, whereas a psychiatrist will recommend counselling, hypnotherapy or tablets and so on.  A person can be conned by a psychiatrist too, it is really up to a person seeking help. One should only visit brahmgiyanies or Mahapurakhs if one is seriously seeking spiritual guidance and not for temporal issues such as low self esteem or alcoholism or domestic violence or for a gift of a son etc.  These can be resolved by specialists trained to deal with such problems. Why do they always want  a son though? It’s the parents that are responsible for all their children’s mental afflictions!  

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21 minutes ago, GuestSingh said:

In my opinion, a person with low self-esteem should really see a psychiatrist and not a Mahapurakh or a Brahmgiani. Mahapurakhs or Brahmgiyanies show us how to walk the path that unites us with God. On the other hand, psyciatrists can help us how to work on our low self esteem with tools specifically designed to cure low self esteem or any other mental affliction.  Mahapurakhs will recommend naam simran for seekers of spirituality, whereas a psychiatrist will recommend counselling, hypnotherapy or tablets and so on.  A person can be conned by a psychiatrist too, it is really up to a person seeking help. One should only visit brahmgiyanies or Mahapurakhs if one is seriously seeking spiritual guidance and not for temporal issues such as low self esteem or alcoholism or domestic violence or for a gift of a son etc.  These can be resolved by specialists trained to deal with such problems. Why do they always want  a son though? It’s the parents that are responsible for all their children’s mental afflictions!  

That's the thing though. A lot of 'mahapurakhs' seem to collect weak-willed conformists around them. People who are more interested in social standing and wanting to project some particularly devout persona than actual seekers of truth. I think these low self-esteem people use the connection as some sort of ego boost?

A lot of people who are weak willed or prone to hardcore 'groupthink' (i.e. incapable of any sort of independent thought) seem to congregate around 'holy' personalities. Some look like they are affiliating themselves  for exactly the same reason people join gangs rather than any real spiritual inclinations. 

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11 hours ago, paapiman said:

Attack on another historical sakhi by Dhadri. Through this clip, he is indirectly alluding that Sri Satguru jee (Tenth Master) was not Samrath.

 

 

Bhul chuk maaf

 

Those that listen to his rubbish above are cult followers. They will lap up anything the fool says.

8 hours ago, GuestSingh said:

Fools. You are all Bhamans who insult all the mahapurakhs.

 

What are bhamans? 

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4 hours ago, angy15 said:

 

a.Which generations is going on right now.

b. Who are those people .Where do they live.

Regarding Second part of the question regarding Kulee we will discuss it according to Gurmat.

But first plz let us find the  the lucky family who were blessed   in the video .

 

Its not important who they are or where they are. What difference will it make to your life? By knowing such information will it enable you to tell us what “brahmanism” is? 

 

Re second part I can understand why you are afraid to discuss it, and hide under the pretext of “finding” that family. 

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5 hours ago, chatanga1 said:

 

Its not important who they are or where they are. What difference will it make to your life? By knowing such information will it enable you to tell us what “brahmanism” is? 

 

Re second part I can understand why you are afraid to discuss it, and hide under the pretext of “finding” that family. 

Because its a fake story without evidence and that is what  Dhadrianwala is speaking abt.

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And If its not important why is it uploaded  in the discussion forum.

 

 

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If you’re after evidence, why not prove your  assertion of what Brahmanism is? Why is your assertion real? Have you provided any evidence for it? No you haven’t even though I asked you 11 times for an answer. 

 

If the the definition of brahmanism wasn’t important why did you bring it up in the discussion?

 

What about the fake line of Gurbani you invented that omitted the word “Nanak?”

Was it not important to include that single word?

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23 hours ago, paapiman said:

Attack on another historical sakhi by Dhadri. Through this clip, he is indirectly alluding that Sri Satguru jee (Tenth Master) was not Samrath.

 

 

Bhul chuk maaf

What happened to the video above?

Is Dhadri threatening people with copyright infringements? He made Bhai Jasvinder Singh USA to take down a clip too.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

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3 hours ago, paapiman said:

Let's discuss one video at a time.

Dhadri or you have the freedom to disbelieve in the sakhi below, but Dhadri had made a mistake below.

Veerji we are  not finished with the discussion abt the video you posted earlier .So first we discussed that and then move forward.

I am still waiting to know abt the lucky family .It is important  as it  will help us  nail Dhadrianwala.

 

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3 hours ago, paapiman said:

@angy15 - Let's discuss one video at a time.

Dhadri or you have the freedom to disbelieve in the sakhi below, but Dhadri had made a mistake below.

Have you figured out the mistake which he made in the tidbit below?

 

 

Bhul chuk maaf

@angy15

The above video was posted before the other video about the lucky family.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

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4 hours ago, angy15 said:

Veerji we are  not finished with the discussion abt the video you posted earlier .So first we discussed that and then move forward.

I am still waiting to know abt the lucky family .It is important  as it  will help us  nail Dhadrianwala.

 

Well at the moment you are in no position to nail anyone. You stand nailed yourself as you can’t even explain what brahmanism is. 

 

So so if you want to discuss things in order let’s do that. 

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4 hours ago, paapiman said:

@angy15

The above video was posted before the other video about the lucky family.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

Who decides whether its a  mistake .  It is quite obvious  Dhadrianwala  will never accept Stories/sakhis of these type. And followers of taksal will obviously will accept them .Its the opinion of the sangat .Now taksali doesn't represent the whole  sikh community  . As mentioned there are  differences of opinion (two school of thought).

BTW this sakhi has nothing to do with SGGS .

If he doesn't approve this sakhi  it doesn't make him anti Gurmat.

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4 hours ago, paapiman said:

The above video was posted before the other video about the lucky family.

I'm not sure you will achieve anything by talking to this cockroach called angy. He doesn't know how to discuss anything. All the cockroach is doing is throwing random things and derailing topics.

Admins should be taking note of this. After what happened on this forum over the last 2 years, do you want the cycle to repeat itself?

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10 hours ago, angy15 said:

Who decides whether its a  mistake .  It is quite obvious  Dhadrianwala  will never accept Stories/sakhis of these type

Did you figure out the mistake or not? Yes or no? The mistake is independent of the belief in the sakhi.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

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10 hours ago, chatanga1 said:

After what happened on this forum over the last 2 years, do you want the cycle to repeat itself?

Bhaji, let's try little more and see. Maybe, he will understand our viewpoint. He is still our brother. Gurparasad, we need to bring me to the right track or at least to a neutral one.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

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