Translation of Nasihatnama Mahala Pehla

[amardeep]

Gurfateh

I came across this interesting discussion and translation of one of the banis outside the Guru Granth Sahib. It has a heavy political focus on how to administer justice as a ruler and is regarded as advice for a particular opressive ruler from the Middle East by Guru Nanak'

 

http://www.academia.edu/20313114/Nasīhatanāmā_By_Dr_Kamalroop_Singh_Akali_Nihang_

[amardeep]

I love this sentence, - similiar verses found in the Zafarnama:

Hakim kahavain, hakumat na hoi

They call you the ruler,  but you do not rule justly.

[BhagatSingh]

The language appears to be more modern than Guru ji's times probably around at least late 1600s.

Also why is Guru Sahib whose signature is "Nanak",  signing a document as "Baba Nanak"?

[amardeep]

Interesting.  Can you provide some examples of where you find the language modern. 

[amardeep]

There is only one verse by Guru Nanak wherein Baba Nanak occours

 

Page 155, Line 5
ਹਉ ਖਰੀ ਦੁਹੇਲੀ ਹੋਈ ਬਾਬਾ ਨਾਨਕ ਮੇਰੀ ਬਾਤ ਨ ਪੁਛੈ ਕੋਈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
हउ खरी दुहेली होई बाबा नानक मेरी बात न पुछै कोई ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥
Ha▫o kẖarī ḏuhelī ho▫ī bābā Nānak merī bāṯ na pucẖẖai ko▫ī. ||1|| rahā▫o.
I am totally miserable! O Baba Nanak, no one cares for me at all! ||1||Pause||
Guru Nanak Dev  

[amardeep]

Regardless of it being from the 16th century or 18th century during the Sikh's rise to rule, this is such an interesting document as it highlights a Sikh view of politics and rule

[paapiman]

21 hours ago, BhagatSingh said:

Also why is Guru Sahib whose signature is "Nanak",  signing a document as "Baba Nanak"?

 

6 hours ago, amardeep said:

There is only one verse by Guru Nanak wherein Baba Nanak occours

 

Page 155, Line 5
ਹਉ ਖਰੀ ਦੁਹੇਲੀ ਹੋਈ ਬਾਬਾ ਨਾਨਕ ਮੇਰੀ ਬਾਤ ਨ ਪੁਛੈ ਕੋਈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
हउ खरी दुहेली होई बाबा नानक मेरी बात न पुछै कोई ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥
Ha▫o kẖarī ḏuhelī ho▫ī bābā Nānak merī bāṯ na pucẖẖai ko▫ī. ||1|| rahā▫o.
I am totally miserable! O Baba Nanak, no one cares for me at all! ||1||Pause||
Guru Nanak Dev  

 

It depends on where you put the Aradh Vishraam (type of pause).

ਹਉ ਖਰੀ ਦੁਹੇਲੀ ਹੋਈ ਬਾਬਾ ਨਾਨਕ ਮੇਰੀ ਬਾਤ ਨ ਪੁਛੈ ਕੋਈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

If the vishraam is put at ਬਾਬਾ, then the meaning would be as follows.

I am totally miserable O Baba (God), Nanak (the poet), no one cares for me at all! ||1||Pause||

 

Bhul chuk maaf

[BhagatSingh]

On 12/30/2017 at 10:15 AM, amardeep said:

Interesting.  Can you provide some examples of where you find the language modern. 

Use of bindis for example.

 

On 12/30/2017 at 11:22 AM, amardeep said:

There is only one verse by Guru Nanak wherein Baba Nanak occours

Interesting.

On 12/30/2017 at 11:24 AM, amardeep said:

Regardless of it being from the 16th century or 18th century during the Sikh's rise to rule, this is such an interesting document as it highlights a Sikh view of politics and rule

Indeed.

On 12/30/2017 at 12:52 PM, paapiman said:

It depends on where you put the Aradh Vishraam (type of pause)

Yeah but it doesn't make sense to put it after Baba.