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Today I was reading suraj granth  prakash Patshahi 10 .Rut 05 Adhyai 44 . This adhayia is on Yoga Sutras. My query is ,in what historical context is this adhyai mentioned  ,what is the purpose and did Guru Gobing singh Ji has wrtten this adhyai.

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9 minutes ago, sarabatam said:

Now patanjali is being referred as Gurmukh by bhai gurdas ji. 

Here is the recording. I recommend listening to all of audio, it talks quite bit of gurmat in relations to yoga. 

http://www.gurmatveechar.com/audios/Katha/02_Present_Day_Katha/Baba_Jagjit_Singh_(Harkhowal_wale)/Discussions_Questions_and_Answers/2009/Baba.Jagjit.Singh.(Harkhowal.wale)--Questions.and.Answers.2009.Part.01.mp3

 

Thanks for the audio link of Pandit jee.

The word Gurmukh can have many meanings. One will have to look at the context before deciding on the meaning.

Rikhi Patanjali jee is also refereed to as a "Guru" in Sri Kirtan Sohila Sahib. Again in that context, it would mean an instructor/teacher (like a Ustad) in the Yoga school of thought.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

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Where patanjali teaching of dharna- one pointedess, meditation-dhyaan-concentration and samadhi- gyan is mentioned among other limbs its compatible with Gurmat as those are universal teaching to realize atma-universal science of soul, where it talks about raw hatha yoga and parnayam without incorporation of Shabad or mantra, its not compatible.

For example- Sant jvala singh ji harkhowale did lot of simran abhyaas in his early life in which he incorporate techniques of hatha yoga too. So its not black and white.

Similiarly there is sakhi of mata ajeeto ji in soraj parkash granth -using meditation techniques -concentrate on third eye to see the future and to transcend, this technique is also mentioned in patanjali yog shastras.

I've find this topic similiar to vedant school of thought and gurmat. Here is what sant gyani gurbachan singh bhindranwale says on gurmat/gurbani position on vedas-

 

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1 minute ago, angy15 said:

Why is it  in suraj panth prakash? Is it Kavi santokh Singh  writing on yog or Guru Maharaj

I think its bit of both- there is historical context to this. Kam1825 member on this forum can probably shed some more light on to this, i've messaged him on facebook to take a look at your topic here.

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Kavi Santokh Singh was merely an orator and compiler of stories. He used the material around him from different Janam sakhis and gurbilas writings and complied them all into one big scripture. And in some cases he travelled around and got stories from local people in villages whose ancestors had met the gurus. Then he wrote those stories down etc. So in essence, he was merely a compiler rather than someone who made up stories about the gurus. The panj sau sakhi is said to have been his main inspiration when it comes

to guru gobind singh

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42 minutes ago, angy15 said:

Why is it  in suraj panth prakash? Is it Kavi santokh Singh  writing on yog or Guru Maharaj

There might be historical context to it. Daas will give you a similar example.

There is a sakhi of a demon (Dhundu) and Rikhi Uthank jee in the chapters pertaining to Sri Satguru jee (Seventh Master). This sakhi was narrated by Maharaaj to his Sikhs. If you are unaware of this fact, you might be surprised that why is Mahakavi jee narrating a tale of a demon in the history of Seventh Master.

Also, JFYI, Sri Panth Prakash is a different granth(s). This granth is either called Sri Gur Pratap Sooraj Granth or Sri Sooraj Prakash Granth.  

@amardeep - Mahakavi jee was also a great poet (Churraman Kavi) and a scholar too. Would you classify him as a historian too?

 

Bhul chuk maaf

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No he was not a historian as such. He was a compiler of stories, he is not analysing them or giving historical validity to the things he narrate. So compiler, poet, scriptural commentator and translator would be better suited terms for him

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Sadh Sangat JI

I will rephrase my question .What was the necessity of adding details of Yog sutras in  Suraj granth   Patshahi 10  was there any sakhis asscoiated etc . What is the association /incident or in what context it is written?

Waheguru

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On 2/6/2018 at 8:11 PM, sarabatam said:

here is sakhi of sri guru gobind singh ji teaching yog to mata ajeeto ji, please see confirmation in the screenshot below in japji sahib translation of sunaiie jog jugat tin bhed:

 Bhai Gurdas in his Vaaran also calls Patanjali a gurmukh. AS Sarabtam mentions abt yoga in a sakhi(Quoted above) So Yoga can be  a helping tool which can help us in our spiritual journey .

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Gurbani

On 2/12/2018 at 4:42 AM, angy15 said:

 Bhai Gurdas in his Vaaran also calls Patanjali a gurmukh. AS Sarabtam mentions abt yoga in a sakhi(Quoted above) So Yoga can be  a helping tool which can help us in our spiritual journey .

Gurbani, especially Bhagat bani, is in line with patanjali yoga

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7 minutes ago, Lucky said:

Gurbani

Gurbani, especially Bhagat bani, is in line with patanjali yoga

You are correct I have been reading Yoga sutras of Patanjali and i find  no contradictions between Patanjali sutras  and Gurbani.

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Here is the video of sant kartar singh bhindranwale talking bit about patanjali, purpose/essence of yog shastar is this line- yoga chitta vritti nirodha".  Gurmat one aspect-naam abhyaas meditation is compatible with essence teaching of patanjali as gurmat also plays emphasis on one pointedeness, kundalini, dasam dwar, 3rd eye, achal morat, samadhi , afur avastha-sun samadhi. However, gurmat is more (bhagti, seva, gyan/vedant) than the teaching of patanjali as patanjali teaching end with its essence message- yoga chitta vritti nirodha" whereas gurmat as whole is addresses- non dual sehaj state( gyan)*- seeing satguru only everywhere, listening to satguru only seeing har ka roop message in anand sahib

*Baba Budda ji- Mukh Bhagti, Hirde Gyan

 

 

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