Shivam Kumar Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 When we meditate below the eye level and try to activate the six chakras or energy centers, it helps us to gain some remarkable experiences. But they don’t help in raising our awareness at all! We gain a lot of energy and benefits by activating chakras, but they are just meant for this world only. We can’t raise our awareness by those means. Then why put our attention below the eyes? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabatam Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 What you saying its partially true, i see chakras as energy portals in the body, once they are awaken they can help our body/energy being wake up to their highest potential and get us-being ready in the highest portal - tenth door or 3rd eye for final transcendence -shedding away individual body/mind consciousness and identifying with our real self- non dual awareness. That final transcendence comes spontaneously from inner being by grace of Vahiguru- supreme being and cannot be enforced by siddhi(technique) or by chakras. Since fully identifying with non dual infinite awareness (Vahiguru) requires a radical paradigm shift in identity-back drop seer-awareness (not identifying with experiences or grasping or pushing thoughts) only identifying with its source, chakra awakening themselves cannot address or help in this move as chakras themselves as part of experience/happening occurring in the backdrop womb of non dual seer awareness-IkOngkar. Any experience has a life span, falls under time-Kaal an whereas back drop non dual awareness is Akaal morat itself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 16 hours ago, Shivam Kumar said: When we meditate below the eye level and try to activate the six chakras or energy centers, it helps us to gain some remarkable experiences. But they don’t help in raising our awareness at all! We gain a lot of energy and benefits by activating chakras, but they are just meant for this world only. We can’t raise our awareness by those means. Then why put our attention below the eyes? What made you think that they don't raise your awareness? ..... It seems incorrect to me. See, if the below helps you...... Navel and slightly below (Mool duar) is where your knot of sukham (astral) body is. Gurbani also explains, that bhavjal sagar(bhavsagar) starts at the navel and goes upto the mid-point of eyes (triveni) .. The 3 channels, ida, pingal and sukhmana travel upwards along this bhavsagar, but the sukhmana is hidden.. Also represented by rivers Ganga, Jumna and Sarsvati.. The idea is to ascend upwards by balancing ida-pingala and activating through the central sukhmana (sarsvati). This is also how you raise kundalini. . In gurmat, as per gurbani, one can only ascend, increase frequencies..etc starting from the knot. There are other explanations as well, such as the agan(fire) element (in stomach area), This has to be conquered and left behind by the mind before it can deal with water and air. The MIND has to leave behind maya(5 elements) before it enters the sacha mahal inside. Also, alchemy reference in Japji bani below. This is similar to spiritual science of making pure gold with either Paras(philospher stone) or manually working with it in furnace. The furnace (heat) is stomach. This heat is necessary before gold/precious metal ore can be molten. Then process of separating the pure out of the ore, and finally the extraction of this ore. ਜਤੁ ਪਾਹਾਰਾ ਧੀਰਜੁ ਸੁਨਿਆਰੁ ॥ Jaṯ pāhārā ḏẖīraj suni▫ār. Let self-control be the furnace, and patience the goldsmith. ਅਹਰਣਿ ਮਤਿ ਵੇਦੁ ਹਥੀਆਰੁ ॥ Ahraṇ maṯ veḏ hathī▫ār. Let understanding be the anvil, and spiritual wisdom the tools. ਭਉ ਖਲਾ ਅਗਨਿ ਤਪ ਤਾਉ ॥ Bẖa▫o kẖalā agan ṯap ṯā▫o. With the Fear of God as the bellows, fan the flames of tapa, the body's inner heat. ਭਾਂਡਾ ਭਾਉ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਤਿਤੁ ਢਾਲਿ ॥ Bẖāʼndā bẖā▫o amriṯ ṯiṯ dẖāl. In the crucible of love, melt the Nectar of the Name, ਘੜੀਐ ਸਬਦੁ ਸਚੀ ਟਕਸਾਲ ॥ Gẖaṛī▫ai sabaḏ sacẖī taksāl. and mint the True Coin of the Shabad, the Word of God. There should be many other universal reasons of why you must start at the lower chakra areas and work your way up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 16 hours ago, Shivam Kumar said: When we meditate below the eye level and try to activate the six chakras or energy centers, it helps us to gain some remarkable experiences. But they don’t help in raising our awareness at all! We gain a lot of energy and benefits by activating chakras, but they are just meant for this world only. We can’t raise our awareness by those means. Then why put our attention below the eyes? What made you think that they don't raise your awareness? ..... It seems incorrect to me. See, if the below helps you...... Navel and slightly below (Mool duar) is where your knot of sukham (astral) body is. Gurbani also explains, that bhavjal sagar(bhavsagar) starts at the navel and goes upto the mid-point of eyes (triveni) .. The 3 channels, ida, pingal and sukhmana travel upwards along this bhavsagar, but the sukhmana is hidden.. Also represented by rivers Ganga, Jumna and Sarsvati.. The idea is to ascend upwards by balancing ida-pingala and activating through the central sukhmana (sarsvati). This is also how you raise kundalini. . In gurmat, as per gurbani, one can only ascend, increase frequencies..etc starting from the knot. There are other explanations as well, such as the agan(fire) element (in stomach area), This has to be conquered and left behind by the mind before it can deal with water and air. The MIND has to leave behind maya(5 elements) before it enters the sacha mahal inside. Also, alchemy reference in Japji bani below. This is similar to spiritual science of making pure gold with either Paras(philospher stone) or manually working with it in furnace. The furnace (heat) is stomach. This heat is necessary before gold/precious metal ore can be molten. Then process of separating the pure out of the ore, and finally the extraction of this ore. ਜਤੁ ਪਾਹਾਰਾ ਧੀਰਜੁ ਸੁਨਿਆਰੁ ॥ Jaṯ pāhārā ḏẖīraj suni▫ār. Let self-control be the furnace, and patience the goldsmith. ਅਹਰਣਿ ਮਤਿ ਵੇਦੁ ਹਥੀਆਰੁ ॥ Ahraṇ maṯ veḏ hathī▫ār. Let understanding be the anvil, and spiritual wisdom the tools. ਭਉ ਖਲਾ ਅਗਨਿ ਤਪ ਤਾਉ ॥ Bẖa▫o kẖalā agan ṯap ṯā▫o. With the Fear of God as the bellows, fan the flames of tapa, the body's inner heat. ਭਾਂਡਾ ਭਾਉ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਤਿਤੁ ਢਾਲਿ ॥ Bẖāʼndā bẖā▫o amriṯ ṯiṯ dẖāl. In the crucible of love, melt the Nectar of the Name, ਘੜੀਐ ਸਬਦੁ ਸਚੀ ਟਕਸਾਲ ॥ Gẖaṛī▫ai sabaḏ sacẖī taksāl. and mint the True Coin of the Shabad, the Word of God. There should be many other universal reasons of why you must start at the lower chakra areas and work your way up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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