paapiman Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Please listen to Gyani Avtar Singh jee Badnikalan wale on how falsehood is presented in a pretty manner. This katha snippet will help us to understand one of the arths of the below verse in a better way. ਮੁਖਿ ਝੂਠ ਬਿਭੂਖਣ ਸਾਰੰ ॥ With your mouth you utter falsehood, and present it in a beautiful manner Please start listening at 27:00 min: http://www.gurmatveechar.com/audios/Katha/02_Present_Day_Katha/Bhai_Avtar_Singh_(Badni_Kalan_wale)/Katha_Sri_Guru_Granth_Sahib_Ji/CD_11/15--Bhai.Avtar.Singh--Katha.Guru.Granth.Sahib.Ji.Vol.11--Ang.470%2C.Line.12.mp3 Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BhagatSingh Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 Most pracharaks do wrong arth of this shabad, and say that this shabad forbids wearing articles of faith, but let's see how Gyani ji does the arth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BhagatSingh Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 @paapiman Beautiful arth of this tuk but where is the remaining shabad? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted June 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 On 6/28/2018 at 8:18 PM, BhagatSingh said: @paapiman Beautiful arth of this tuk but where is the remaining shabad? There are two audio files which cover this shalok. This is from the larivaar katha of SSGGSJ. Gyani jee does not go too deep with the arths. http://www.gurmatveechar.com/audios/Katha/02_Present_Day_Katha/Bhai_Avtar_Singh_(Badni_Kalan_wale)/Katha_Sri_Guru_Granth_Sahib_Ji/CD_11/15--Bhai.Avtar.Singh--Katha.Guru.Granth.Sahib.Ji.Vol.11--Ang.470%2C.Line.12.mp3 http://www.gurmatveechar.com/audios/Katha/02_Present_Day_Katha/Bhai_Avtar_Singh_(Badni_Kalan_wale)/Katha_Sri_Guru_Granth_Sahib_Ji/CD_11/16--Bhai.Avtar.Singh--Katha.Guru.Granth.Sahib.Ji.Vol.11--Ang.470%2C.Line.17.mp3 Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BhagatSingh Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 16 hours ago, paapiman said: http://www.gurmatveechar.com/audios/Katha/02_Present_Day_Katha/Bhai_Avtar_Singh_(Badni_Kalan_wale)/Katha_Sri_Guru_Granth_Sahib_Ji/CD_11/16--Bhai.Avtar.Singh--Katha.Guru.Granth.Sahib.Ji.Vol.11--Ang.470%2C.Line.17.mp3 This is the one. Yea he doesn't go into detail. But his tone with this is much different than certain other parcharaks. I wish he would clarify that this shalok is not about criticizing the garb of the Saints ie wearing of mala, having at least two dhotis or two kacheras and covering the head. Guru Sahib is not saying "stop wearing that stuff". This shalok is a teaching to those who think that by wearing the garb of Saints, one becomes a Saint, ie one becomes liberated. Guru sahib is saying, "by wearing the garb of Saints, you will not become a Saint". Just because you wield a sword and dress up in armour, does not make you a warrior. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted July 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 23 hours ago, BhagatSingh said: Guru Sahib is not saying "stop wearing that stuff". This shalok is a teaching to those who think that by wearing the garb of Saints, one becomes a Saint, ie one becomes liberated. Guru sahib is saying, "by wearing the garb of Saints, you will not become a Saint". Just because you wield a sword and dress up in armour, does not make you a warrior. Good stuff. That shalok is speaking out against Pakhandvaad, not against any religious symbols. Bhul chuk maaf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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