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ਜਾ ਧਨ ਕੰਤਿ ਨ ਰਾਵੀਆ ਤਾ ਬਿਰਥਾ ਜੋਬਨੁ ਜਾਇ ॥੭॥

Jaa Dhhan Kanth N Raaveeaa Thaa Birathhaa Joban Jaae ||7||

When the Husband does not enjoy His bride, then her youth passes away in vain. ||7||

ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ (ਮਃ ੧) ਅਸਟ. (੨) ੭:੩ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੫੪ ਪੰ. ੧੧ 
Sri Raag Guru Nanak Dev

 

ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ ਮਹਲਾ ੧ ॥

Sireeraag Mehalaa 1 ||

Siree Raag, First Mehl:

ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ (ਮਃ ੧) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਅੰਗ ੫੮ 

ਬਿਨੁ ਪਿਰ ਧਨ ਸੀਗਾਰੀਐ ਜੋਬਨੁ ਬਾਦਿ ਖੁਆਰੁ ॥

Bin Pir Dhhan Seegaareeai Joban Baadh Khuaar ||

Without her Husband, the soul-bride's youth and ornaments are useless and wretched.

ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ (ਮਃ ੧) ਅਸਟ. (੯) ੧:੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੫੮ ਪੰ. ੧੨ 
Sri Raag Guru Nanak Dev

ਨਾ ਮਾਣੇ ਸੁਖਿ ਸੇਜੜੀ ਬਿਨੁ ਪਿਰ ਬਾਦਿ ਸੀਗਾਰੁ ॥

Naa Maanae Sukh Saejarree Bin Pir Baadh Seegaar ||

She does not enjoy the pleasure of His Bed; without her Husband, her ornaments are absurd.

ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ (ਮਃ ੧) ਅਸਟ. (੯) ੧:੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੫੮ ਪੰ. ੧੩ 
Sri Raag Guru Nanak Dev

ਦੂਖੁ ਘਣੋ ਦੋਹਾਗਣੀ ਨਾ ਘਰਿ ਸੇਜ ਭਤਾਰੁ ॥੧॥

Dhookh Ghano Dhohaaganee Naa Ghar Saej Bhathaar ||1||

The discarded bride suffers terrible pain; her Husband does not come to the bed of her home. ||1||

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Are you sure this is about women and not a metaphorical representation of the relationship between the soul (the bride) and Waheguru (the groom)?

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On 7/18/2018 at 8:21 AM, Nalwa said:

 

ਜਾ ਧਨ ਕੰਤਿ ਨ ਰਾਵੀਆ ਤਾ ਬਿਰਥਾ ਜੋਬਨੁ ਜਾਇ ॥੭॥

Jaa Dhhan Kanth N Raaveeaa Thaa Birathhaa Joban Jaae ||7||

When the Husband does not enjoy His bride, then her youth passes away in vain. ||7||

ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ (ਮਃ ੧) ਅਸਟ. (੨) ੭:੩ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੫੪ ਪੰ. ੧੧ 
Sri Raag Guru Nanak Dev

 

ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ ਮਹਲਾ ੧ ॥

Sireeraag Mehalaa 1 ||

Siree Raag, First Mehl:

ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ (ਮਃ ੧) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਅੰਗ ੫੮ 

ਬਿਨੁ ਪਿਰ ਧਨ ਸੀਗਾਰੀਐ ਜੋਬਨੁ ਬਾਦਿ ਖੁਆਰੁ ॥

Bin Pir Dhhan Seegaareeai Joban Baadh Khuaar ||

Without her Husband, the soul-bride's youth and ornaments are useless and wretched.

ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ (ਮਃ ੧) ਅਸਟ. (੯) ੧:੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੫੮ ਪੰ. ੧੨ 
Sri Raag Guru Nanak Dev

ਨਾ ਮਾਣੇ ਸੁਖਿ ਸੇਜੜੀ ਬਿਨੁ ਪਿਰ ਬਾਦਿ ਸੀਗਾਰੁ ॥

Naa Maanae Sukh Saejarree Bin Pir Baadh Seegaar ||

She does not enjoy the pleasure of His Bed; without her Husband, her ornaments are absurd.

ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ (ਮਃ ੧) ਅਸਟ. (੯) ੧:੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੫੮ ਪੰ. ੧੩ 
Sri Raag Guru Nanak Dev

ਦੂਖੁ ਘਣੋ ਦੋਹਾਗਣੀ ਨਾ ਘਰਿ ਸੇਜ ਭਤਾਰੁ ॥੧॥

Dhookh Ghano Dhohaaganee Naa Ghar Saej Bhathaar ||1||

The discarded bride suffers terrible pain; her Husband does not come to the bed of her home. ||1||

 

On 7/18/2018 at 9:49 AM, dalsingh101 said:

Are you sure this is about women and not a metaphorical representation of the relationship between the soul (the bride) and Waheguru (the groom)?

 

Brother dalsingh 101, is quite right.

What the Bani is trying to tell us, is that, the soul  bride if it does not decorate itself with the ornaments of only His bhakti, then it does not matter if that soul has done everything else, whether dunyavee :maan, shaan, or dharmic, with all outer religious practices, and has not dyed itself in the "Naam da rang", then, that soul has lost the opportunity of her life, to become one with His groom, through prem bhakti, thus lost once again, in the endless cycle of births and deaths.

The love connection, between the soul bride and the groom Wahiguru Akal Purukh, is none else, but the one of utter surrendering to the beloved.

This is what happens, when we sit in His bhajan bandagee of Nam Simran, we disconnect for that time being from the mayavee creation, and dedicate exclusively, to Him for Him, and this what He most appreciates.

Once we please Him, He showers unlimited blessings on us, He becomes our palanhaar, our rakhanhaar. 

Then, whom else should we fear or depend upon. He is ang sang with that blessed soul.

Stay blessed.

Sat Sree Akal.

 

 

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On 7/20/2018 at 1:59 PM, salymn said:

Guru sahib Ji is saying that our soul is a bride and Wahe guru sahib Ji is a groom and the relationship between the bride and a groom is always of love and affection.  Unless a soul, which is also a bride develops love for the groom which is also a wahe guru sahib Ji, she will never obtain mukti and will keep on travelling through 84 lakh joons forever shifting from one body to the next!

Also, the more we love the more we come closer to Vaheguru. This is mentioned in one of Bhai Gurdas Ji’s Varaan. I can’t  remember it right  now but I think, it goes something like this, ‘Ek Painda Jaye Hai....’. Please check to ascertain it.

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