angy15 Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 Your Designation as a jathedar is same as present jathedar. Hopless.You yourself are not quite well versed with Gurmat teaching Hasn't God Given men a intellect to live aaccording to his Hukum. Isn't its man mind to understand his Hukum. If its raining its his hukum,However to be wet or dry is your will . Putting hand inside a burning fire is your WILL not his hukum. Similarly attack on Darbar Sahib is not his Hukum but a deliberate tactics which was created by humans(Indian Government) So stop playing this game .This i have seen earlier when you taksali don't have an justification to a query you play this Hukum card. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angy15 Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 7 hours ago, paapiman said: Did Operation Blue star occur within the Hukam of Akal Purakh or not? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angy15 Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 6 hours ago, paapiman said: So, how do you interpret the following verse (part of Nitnem)? ਹੁਕਮੈ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਹੁਕਮ ਨ ਕੋਇ ॥ then why blame indian government,indian army for the attack.we should blame akal purakh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 On 9/26/2018 at 11:19 AM, paapiman said: Do you believe in the lady's side of the story? Was this lady having martial problems, when this alleged incident took place? Bhul chuk maaf I have family in the same area that the lady was from. The family I visited a couple of years ago told me about the incidence and another one of their cousins knew this family quite well from the impression they gave. Whether I believe in the lady's story isn't going to make a difference for anything. Anyone who side with the lady, automatically becomes gyani ji's enemy and vice versa. Gurbani is very clear that we shouldn't judge "anyone" and neither should we take sides. I can honestly say that I have problems judging my own actions. I can never be a true judge Nānak parkẖe āp ka▫o ṯā pārakẖ jāṇ. O Nanak, if someone judges himself, only then is he known as a real judge. I've explained what I think of gyani ji earlier. I'm no fan, but I've already taken and learned what I can from his kathas. The first question about believing the lady would be "is she lying" Well, from the character impressions I got; it was hard to imagine this. and no, I hadn't heard anyone mention marital problems at the time. No idea where that came from. I cannot mention the surname of the family or their business since I don't have the right or permission to do so. On 9/26/2018 at 2:24 AM, DeNiro said: As for the allegations, ..and the incidence,.. I do know who the family is and some of their relations. I can't say on here who they are, but they have a well known business around wednesbury/wolverhampton area in West Midlands. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 4 hours ago, DeNiro said: Whether I believe in the lady's story isn't going to make a difference for anything. Anyone who side with the lady, automatically becomes gyani ji's enemy and vice versa. It might have been a case of misunderstanding. For instance, a male might inadvertently touch a woman's bosom or her butt. She might take it in the wrong way, but the guy could be completely innocent. In such an hypothetical situation, one can understand the viewpoint of both the parties involved. Bottomline - God knows what happened. Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, paapiman said: For instance, a male might inadvertently touch a woman's bosom or her butt. She might take it in the wrong way, but the guy could be completely innocent. In such an hypothetical situation, one can understand the viewpoint of both the parties involved. @DeNiro - God knows what really happened in the video below, but there is a chance that the pastor was innocent. Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angy15 Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 Nowdays this Gappi Thakur is busy marketing his new product to the sangat by the name "Braham Kavach".No where in history we find mentioned of sikhs using Braham Kavach in battlefield nor when Darbar sahib was attacked in 1984 not even in Dasam Granth .In fact Guru Gobind singh in DG rejects this kind of fake kavach . ਭੂਜੰਗ ਪ੍ਰਯਾਤ ਛੰਦ ॥ ਬਿਨਾ ਸਰਨ ਤਾ ਕੀ ਨ ਅਉਰੈ ਉਪਾਯੰ ॥ ਕਹਾ ਦੇਵ ਦਈਤੰ ਕਹਾ ਰੰਕ ਰਾਯੰ Without coming under His Refuge, there is no other measure for protection, may be a god, demon, pauper or a king. ਬਿਨਾ ਸਰਨ ਤਾ ਕੀ ਨ ਕੋਟੈ ਉਪਾਯੰ ॥੭੬॥ May be the Sovereign and may be the courtiers, without coming under His shelter, millions of measures for protection will be useless. 76. ਜਿਤੇ ਜੀਵ ਜੰਤੰ ਸੁ ਦੁਨੀਅੰ ਉਪਾਯੰ ॥ ਸਭੈ ਅੰਤ ਕਾਲੰ ਬਲੀ ਕਾਲ ਘਾਯੰ ॥ All the creatures created by Him in the world will ultimately be killed by the mighty KAL. ਬਿਨਾ ਸਰਨ ਤਾ ਕੀ ਨਹੀ ਔਰ ਓਟੰ ॥ ਲਿਖੇ ਜੰਤ੍ਰ ਕੇਤੇ ਪੜ੍ਹੇ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਕੋਟੰ ॥੭੭॥ There is no other protection without coming under His shelter, even though many Yantras be written and millions of Mantras be recited.77. Clearly it shows this Conman Thakur is trying to impose Brahamanvad into sikh psyche.We should be aware of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 15 hours ago, angy15 said: Clearly it shows this Conman Thakur is trying to impose Brahamanvad into sikh psyche.We should be aware of it. Of course we should be. But its no use in being aware of people like Thakur Singh, yet supporting people are are actively against Gurbani, like ghaghri wala who say that rab is kudrat when Gurbani clearly says it isn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angy15 Posted November 11, 2018 Report Share Posted November 11, 2018 15 hours ago, chatanga1 said: like ghaghri wala who say that rab is kudrat when Gurbani clearly says it isn't. This discussion is not abt Dhandriwala but abt Thakur singh.express your frustrations in relavant topic . Just to clarify your doubt he never said "Kudrat he Rabb hai".what he said is "Kudrat vich vasiya Rabb ".their is difference between two.check your facts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted November 11, 2018 Report Share Posted November 11, 2018 No, he didn't say "Kudrat vich vasiya Rabb " which every knowlegabel Sikh agrees with. He said that the kudrat itself is Rabb. 7 hours ago, angy15 said: This discussion is not abt Dhandriwala but abt Thakur singh.express your frustrations in relavant topic . The theme of the topic are the same. Lying preachers. Thakur Singh talks a lot of nonsense but it is not against the principles of Gurmat. He just over-exaggerates. Whereas your guru ghaghri wala talks directly against gurmat principles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angy15 Posted November 11, 2018 Report Share Posted November 11, 2018 2 hours ago, chatanga1 said: Thakur Singh talks a lot of nonsense but it is not against the principles of Gurmat Are you mentally alright. you mean to say speaking nonsense is a principle of Gurmat.what kind of justification is this. 2 hours ago, chatanga1 said: No, he didn't say "Kudrat vich vasiya Rabb " which every knowlegabel Sikh agrees with. He said that the kudrat itself is Rabb. You are wrong he never said.i have watched the original video abt his view on this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted November 11, 2018 Report Share Posted November 11, 2018 4 hours ago, angy15 said: you mean to say speaking nonsense is a principle of Gurmat.what kind of justification is this. No, you deviant. What I'm saying is that by saying there are 18ft shaheeds or whatever Thakur Singh has not gone against the essence of Gurmat, but by saying that kudrat is rabb, or that there is no reincarnation is absolutely against gurmat principle. 4 hours ago, angy15 said: You are wrong he never said.i have watched the original video abt his view on this. Watch it 12 times and you might understand. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulfinder Posted November 11, 2018 Report Share Posted November 11, 2018 43 minutes ago, chatanga1 said: No, you deviant. What I'm saying is that by saying there are 18ft shaheeds or whatever Thakur Singh has not gone against the essence of Gurmat, but by saying that kudrat is rabb, or that there is no reincarnation is absolutely against gurmat principle. Thank you veer ji just because the human eye can't see anything its only karani wale mahapurshs that can see shaheed singhs, jinns, bhoots prets. Just because air electricity pain is not visible does not mean they don't exist same is with these gupt shaktis around us. Its all these science missionarys that have made gurmat gurbani to their own views thoughts rather than saying sat bachan as purtan gursikhs would do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angy15 Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 10 hours ago, chatanga1 said: No, you deviant. What I'm saying is that by saying there are 18ft shaheeds or whatever Thakur Singh has not gone against the essence of Gurmat, but by saying that kudrat is rabb, or that there is no reincarnation is absolutely against gurmat principle. You Still did not clarified how speaking nonsense is part of Gurmat. 10 hours ago, chatanga1 said: Watch it 12 times and you might understand. Watch What ? You are really suffering from Dhandraiphobia . You are spiritual dead soul who belive speaking nonsense is part of Gurmat .Just wasting your life chanting Braham Kavach. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angy15 Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 10 hours ago, Soulfinder said: Thank you veer ji just because the human eye can't see anything its only karani wale mahapurshs that can see shaheed singhs, jinns, bhoots prets. You sound like more of a pujari and brahmin rather khalsa . And don't call Gappi Thakur a mahapurush He is just a shrewd Salesman and nothing else. 10 hours ago, Soulfinder said: Just because air electricity pain is not visible does not mean they don't exist same is with these gupt shaktis around us. True warriors are born on the battlefield! To WIN, battles tactics defines the victory and loosing Read abt Guru Gobind Singh and his forty sikhs along with two sons fought with unprecendented valour and courage. Wars are not fought and won by chanting Braham Kavach (envoking gupt shaktis). 10 hours ago, Soulfinder said: ts all these science missionarys that have made gurmat gurbani to their own views thoughts rather than saying sat bachan as purtan gursikhs would do. Missionaries and Dhandriwala are your worst nightmare . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, angy15 said: You Still did not clarified how speaking nonsense is part of Gurmat. Speaking nonsense is not part of gurmat but it is not anti gurmat. Thakur Singh’s nonsense is not a direct attack on gurmat. However ghaghris teachings that reincarnation is in the mind only or that kudrat is Rabb is a direct attack on gurmat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, angy15 said: You are really suffering from Dhandraiphobia . You are spiritual dead soul who belive speaking nonsense is part of Gurmat .Just wasting your life chanting Braham Kavach. I don’t know what brahman kavach is .You are really suffering from being a cult follower. What soul are you talking about? According to your cult leader ghaghri there is no soul. You are one of those cult followers whom ghaghri has been kissing so he can give them some mantar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, angy15 said: True warriors are born on the battlefield! Omg! Listen to the cult follower! Your guru ghaghri was born in which battlefield? The one where he soiled his pyjama and had to hide in some Biharis mud hut after shooting his own cult follower in his head? 1 hour ago, angy15 said: Missionaries and Dhandriwala are your worst nightmare . You’re right. I don’t want a man dressed as a drag queen trying to kiss me to give me some mantra like ghagri kissed harinder. You can carrying on kissing him all you like . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 I think Giani Thakur Singh is one the best orators of katha we've had in a long while. I do think he needs to exercise much more and lose weight though. His weight problem seems to be getting worse and worse. I learnt more about santhiya from listening to his audios than anyone else. As for trying to kiss a women. I'm confused about this. Yes, it's wrong for a married man to do this, but in the context of all the other gundh and greed that goes on around us (including in our panth), I actually find it hard to think this is something major. Distasteful - yes. But we've seen apnay do a lot worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulfinder Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 22 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said: I think Giani Thakur Singh is one the best orators of katha we've had in a long while. I do think he needs to exercise much more and lose weight though. His weight problem seems to be getting worse and worse. I learnt more about santhiya from listening to his audios than anyone else. Veer ji you are correct its after listening to his katha that i with Waheguru's kirpa got into reading all the banis that i am into now and no preacher has had this type of effect on me until now. Yes his weight is giving him problems like sugar levels,digestive and eyes he mentioned in his katha. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulfinder Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 11 hours ago, angy15 said: True warriors are born on the battlefield! To WIN, battles tactics defines the victory and loosing Read abt Guru Gobind Singh and his forty sikhs along with two sons fought with unprecendented valour and courage. Wars are not fought and won by chanting Braham Kavach (envoking gupt shaktis). True warriors also read Sri Dasam Granth yudh banis like Chandi Di Vaar, Shastar Naam Mala,Chandi Chirtar,Ugardanti and many more banis. But no people like you and your missi Have you read any of these banis ? No i didn't think so !! I have had a chance with Waheguru's kirpa to read these. Brahm Kavach is gurbani whether you believe it or not i really don't care as i know you will never read it. Dasam Bani is full oy yudh tatics stragies but how people like you will never understand is not my problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angy15 Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, Soulfinder said: Brahm Kavach is gurbani whether you believe it or not i really don't care as i know you will never read it. It clearly shows you don't trust SGGS and DG . Missionaries are better pracharaks than your fake taksali who are propagating kachi Bani like BK. Shame 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulfinder Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 12 hours ago, angy15 said: You sound like more of a pujari and brahmin rather khalsa . And don't call Gappi Thakur a mahapurush He is just a shrewd Salesman and nothing else. I sound like a pujari brahmin thats rich coming from you. What about people like you who are discarding our own banis from sri dasam granth and even raagmala. You are way worse going against guru jis teachings 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angy15 Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, Soulfinder said: Dasam Bani is full oy yudh tatics stragies but how people like you will never understand is not my problem. Why are you making faking arguments I never said anything on this regard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angy15 Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Soulfinder said: What about people like you who are discarding our own banis from sri dasam granth and even raagmala. A big lie .Where did I show me the proof ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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