dalsingh101 Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 7 hours ago, starchpagg47 said: https://www.manglacharan.com/home/call-to-arms-by-guru-gobind-singh-ji They should go buy Bangles|| ਯਾਂਤੇ ਸਰਬ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਸੁਨੀਅਹਿ । ਆਯੁਧ ਧਰਿਬੇ ਉਤੱਮ ਗੁਨੀਅਹਿ । The Guru then said to his Sikhs, "All of the Khalsa should listen [to this directive], carrying weapons is the highest action. ਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰ ਕੇਸ ਬਿਨ ਪਾਉ ਲਖਹੁ ਨਰ । ਕੇਸ ਧਰੇ ਤਬਿ ਆਧੋ ਲਖਿ ਉਰ ।।੮।। Those men who do not have Kesh [unshorn hair] or Shastars [weapons], do not recognize those men as full men. Those who have Kesh [unshorn hair], recognize those as half-men. ਕੇਸ ਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰ ਜਬਿ ਦੋਨਹੁਂ ਧਾਰੇ । ਤਬਿ ਨਰੁ ਰੂਪ ਹੋਤਿ ਹੈ ਸਾਰੇ । Those who have adorned themselves with Kesh [unshorn hair] and Shastar [weapons], those men have attained their full form." ਕਮਰ ਕਸੇ ਬਿਨ ਜੋ ਸਿਖ ਜਾਇ । ਤਿਸ ਪਰ ਰੁਖ ਨਹਿ ਕਰੈਂ ਕਦਾਇ ।।੧੦।। Those Sikhs who went towards the Guru without wearing a Kamarkasa [waist band which holds weapons], the Guru would never look towards them. Simple fact is, We're gonna have weapons because they are Sargun Form of Devi|| All Weapons are Legal, As They Are Sacred|| I do not get why you didn't post the whole extract??? ਗੁਰਪ੍ਰਤਾਪ ਸੂਰਜ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਸ਼ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ - ਰੁਤ ੩, ਅਧਿਾਇ ੨੩ Gurpratap Suraj Prakash Granth - Rut 3, Chapter 23 ਯਾਂਤੇ ਸਰਬ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਸੁਨੀਅਹਿ । ਆਯੁਧ ਧਰਿਬੇ ਉਤੱਮ ਗੁਨੀਅਹਿ । The Guru then said to his Sikhs, "All of the Khalsa should listen [to this directive], carrying weapons is the highest action. ਜਬਿ ਹਮਰੇ ਦਰਸ਼ਨ ਕੋ ਆਵਹੁ । ਬਨਿ ਸੁਚੇਤ ਤਨ ਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰ ਸਜਾਵਹੁ ।।੭।। When you come to have my Darshan, adorn your body with weapons. ਕਮਰ ਕਸਾ ਕਰਿ ਦੇਹੁ ਦਿਖਾਈ । ਹਮਰੀ ਖੁਸ਼ੀ ਹੋਇ ਅਧਿਕਾਈ । When showing yourself to me have your Kamar Kasa [waist band which holds weapons] tied, in such a way I shall be extremely happy. ਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰ ਕੇਸ ਬਿਨ ਪਾਉ ਲਖਹੁ ਨਰ । ਕੇਸ ਧਰੇ ਤਬਿ ਆਧੋ ਲਖਿ ਉਰ ।।੮।। Those men who do not have Kesh [unshorn hair] or Shastars [weapons], do not recognize those men as full men. Those who have Kesh [unshorn hair], recognize those as half-men. ਕੇਸ ਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰ ਜਬਿ ਦੋਨਹੁਂ ਧਾਰੇ । ਤਬਿ ਨਰੁ ਰੂਪ ਹੋਤਿ ਹੈ ਸਾਰੇ । Those who have adorned themselves with Kesh [unshorn hair] and Shastar [weapons], those men have attained their full form." ਅਸ ਉਪਦੇਸ ਗੁਰੂ ਤੇ ਸੁਨਿ ਕਰਿ । ਦਰਸ਼ਨ ਪਰਸਤਿ ਆਯੁਧ ਧਰਿ ਧਰਿ ।।੯।। After listening to this discourse by the Guru, Sikhs would come to the Guru adorning various weapons. ਸਿੰਘ ਰੂਪ ਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰਨ ਜੁਤਿ ਹੇਰੈਂ । ਹੋਤਿ ਗੁਰੂ ਕੀ ਖੁਸ਼ੀ ਬਡੇਰੈ । The appearance of a Singh [is complete] with weapons, when the Guru see's this He becomes extremely happy. ਕਮਰ ਕਸੇ ਬਿਨ ਜੋ ਸਿਖ ਜਾਇ । ਤਿਸ ਪਰ ਰੁਖ ਨਹਿ ਕਰੈਂ ਕਦਾਇ ।।੧੦।। Those Sikhs who went towards the Guru without wearing a Kamarkasa [waist band which holds weapons], the Guru would never look towards them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 Quote ਯਾਂਤੇ ਸਰਬ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਸੁਨੀਅਹਿ । ਆਯੁਧ ਧਰਿਬੇ ਉਤੱਮ ਗੁਨੀਅਹਿ । The Guru then said to his Sikhs, "All of the Khalsa should listen [to this directive], carrying weapons is the highest action. What's the word for weapons in the above original text? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 Note how we are having an apparent rise in gun crime despite the UK having seriously strict gun laws: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, starchpagg47 said: https://www.manglacharan.com/home/call-to-arms-by-guru-gobind-singh-ji They should go buy Bangles|| ਯਾਂਤੇ ਸਰਬ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਸੁਨੀਅਹਿ । ਆਯੁਧ ਧਰਿਬੇ ਉਤੱਮ ਗੁਨੀਅਹਿ । The Guru then said to his Sikhs, "All of the Khalsa should listen [to this directive], carrying weapons is the highest action. ਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰ ਕੇਸ ਬਿਨ ਪਾਉ ਲਖਹੁ ਨਰ । ਕੇਸ ਧਰੇ ਤਬਿ ਆਧੋ ਲਖਿ ਉਰ ।।੮।। Those men who do not have Kesh [unshorn hair] or Shastars [weapons], do not recognize those men as full men. Those who have Kesh [unshorn hair], recognize those as half-men. ਕੇਸ ਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰ ਜਬਿ ਦੋਨਹੁਂ ਧਾਰੇ । ਤਬਿ ਨਰੁ ਰੂਪ ਹੋਤਿ ਹੈ ਸਾਰੇ । Those who have adorned themselves with Kesh [unshorn hair] and Shastar [weapons], those men have attained their full form." ਕਮਰ ਕਸੇ ਬਿਨ ਜੋ ਸਿਖ ਜਾਇ । ਤਿਸ ਪਰ ਰੁਖ ਨਹਿ ਕਰੈਂ ਕਦਾਇ ।।੧੦।। Those Sikhs who went towards the Guru without wearing a Kamarkasa [waist band which holds weapons], the Guru would never look towards them. Simple fact is, We're gonna have weapons because they are Sargun Form of Devi|| All Weapons are Legal, As They Are Sacred|| It is important to note also that the concept of shastardhari and resistance in sikhi is broader than solely carrying and fighting with weapons. There is also the jeeb Kharag (resistance through speaking against tyranny) and gian kharag (using knowledge to resist tyranny) as exemplified through the chaubis avatar Granth. Being shastardhari doesn’t mean you solve all problems through violence and sword. In fact it’s a noble concept that includes aspects of diplomacy, civil engagement, compromise and finally victory. Whatever the situation commands, the right approach is utilised for the benefit of all. Edited September 11, 2018 by amardeep 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starchpagg47 Posted September 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, amardeep said: It is important to note also that the concept of shastardhari and resistance in sikhi is broader than solely carrying and fighting with weapons. There is also the jeeb Kharag (resistance through speaking against tyranny) and gian kharag (using knowledge to resist tyranny) as exemplified through the chaubis avatar Granth. Being shastardhari doesn’t mean you solve all problems through violence and sword. In fact it’s a noble concept that includes aspects of diplomacy, civil engagement, compromise and finally victory. Whatever the situation commands, the right approach is utilised for the benefit of all. Why'd you edit the part where I state that you & paapiman are Kusras be Guru's own definition? You should run your marriage for the benefit of all as well, cuck. The Khalsa gaining power is inherently for everyone's Bhalla, so you just focus on that|| You becoming stronger, helps your family inherently so you can focus on that. Womanly behavior comes naturally to some Tfw their mod approval has no time limit, I've been on it for years plus. They obviously don't believe in redemption, but merely in their 1.0 tfr Sikhi triumping over all through the superiority of their virtue signaling|| edit - It's also obvious you prefer we shied away from violence to make you feel better among your white christian peers|| Edited September 12, 2018 by starchpagg47 Sellout 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starchpagg47 Posted September 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 14 hours ago, dalsingh101 said: What's the word for weapons in the above original text? ਆਯੁਧ Probably. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amardeep Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, starchpagg47 said: Why'd you edit the part where I state that you & paapiman are Kusras be Guru's own definition? You should run your marriage for the benefit of all as well, cuck. The Khalsa gaining power is inherently for everyone's Bhalla, so you just focus on that|| You becoming stronger, helps your family inherently so you can focus on that. Womanly behavior comes naturally to some Tfw their mod approval has no time limit, I've been on it for years plus. They obviously don't believe in redemption, but merely in their 1.0 tfr Sikhi triumping over all through the superiority of their virtue signaling|| edit - It's also obvious you prefer we shied away from violence to make you feel better among your white christian peers|| I didn edit it - must have been one of the other admins. Singh by that definition a clear majority of the panth are khusre. Please tell us how you are not a Khusra by that definition. What kind of weapon training do you do and how has your skills become beneficial for others in terms of protection and security ? Edited September 12, 2018 by amardeep 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 8 hours ago, starchpagg47 said: ਆਯੁਧ Probably. ਆਯੁਧ - ਸੰ. {ਸੰਗ੍ਯਾ}. ਜਿਸ ਨਾਲ ਯੁੱਧ ਕਰੀਏ. ਹਥਿਆਰ. ਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰ। (2) ਯੁੱਧ ਵਿੱਚ ਸਹਾਇਕ ਸੰਖ ਰਣਸਿੰਘਾ ਆਦਿਕ. Mahan Kosh data provided by Bhai Baljinder Singh (RaraSahib Wale); See http://www.ik13.com 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 On 9/11/2018 at 9:42 AM, dalsingh101 said: Note how we are having an apparent rise in gun crime despite the UK having seriously strict gun laws: It's been bad in Toronto city too, in the last few years. Quote According to the police data, 228 shootings have occurred in Toronto in 2018, resulting in 308 victims. Here’s how that compares with the total number of gun crime incidents in past years: In 2017 there was a total of 395 shootings; In 2016 there was a total of 407 shootings; In 2015 there was a total of 288 shootings; In 2014 there was a total of 177 shootings. Unquote[1] [1] - https://globalnews.ca/news/4352467/danforth-shooting-gun-death-rate-toronto/ Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starchpagg47 Posted September 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 That's a miniscule per capita rate compared to the proposition & historically. How many done with legal firearms & non gang related? Only condolence is at least your lot won't reproduce even if married।। 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starchpagg47 Posted March 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Reality is Political Role of Khalsa is check on tyranny. Meaning Khalsa has to be well armed enough to fight. 5 is an important number. 5 is the size of a Fire Team, the Smallest Unit Able to Fight|| 5 - 1 Grenadier 1 Light Machine Gunner 3 Rifleman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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