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Some scientists say that the Universe began from nothing. Does that contradict with the beginning of the universe in Sikhism? Does "nothing" truly exist? If Vaheguru is omnipresent, therefore is present everywhere always, that contradicts the nature of "nothingness" or is "nothing" just the absence of maya (matter)? 

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57 minutes ago, tva prasad said:

Some scientists say that the Universe began from nothing. Does that contradict with the beginning of the universe in Sikhism? Does "nothing" truly exist? If Vaheguru is omnipresent, therefore is present everywhere always, that contradicts the nature of "nothingness" or is "nothing" just the absence of maya (matter)? 

Veer ji science says a lot of stuff that i find hard to believe especially things like the big bang theory or how humans came from monkey apes. So i usually avoid listening to that sort of topics.

 

Also in Chandi Di Vaar in the 2nd pauri its written that kaal maya was the first thing created meaning the khanda. Here is 2 audio katha tracks by Sant Jarnail Singh Ji  and Baba Gurbachan Singh Ji.

 

 

 

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On 7/17/2019 at 8:12 PM, Soulfinder said:

Veer ji science says a lot of stuff that i find hard to believe especially things like the big bang theory or how humans came from monkey apes.

Wholeheartedly agree with you Veerji. No way in hell did we originate from monkeys. If we did evolve from monkeys,why didn't monkeys evolve into humans already?

I am convinced this is an Internationalist Money Masters/Capitalists plot to corrupt education system and the sciences with rubbish so as to "Debunk" religion and to lead the masses into consumerism. You can read up on this online. The International Money Masters that Invented and even funded Communism(Jacob Schiff) wanted to create a new man whose only duty in life was to consume. Thats all. No divinity, no God. Just food,sex and getting intoxicated. It is designed to keep the masses under control of the minority Capitalist elite.

In the same breath I also don't believe in dinosaurs as it's a creation of the 20th century. Again the goal was the same. To debunk God and religion and create a multi billion dollar bullshit industry that still infects this world today. Factories in China have been exposed manufacturing so called "Dinosaur bones". Of course skeptics would say " but they measured the age of the bones to be millions of years old". But again,all testing facilities are under their control and they all cover up for each other for economic reasons as to not kill their multi billion dollar golden goose.

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9 hours ago, Jageera said:

Wholeheartedly agree with you Veerji. No way in hell did we originate from monkeys. If we did evolve from monkeys,why didn't monkeys evolve into humans already?

I am convinced this is an Internationalist Money Masters/Capitalists plot to corrupt education system and the sciences with rubbish so as to "Debunk" religion and to lead the masses into consumerism. You can read up on this online. The International Money Masters that Invented and even funded Communism(Jacob Schiff) wanted to create a new man whose only duty in life was to consume. Thats all. No divinity, no God. Just food,sex and getting intoxicated. It is designed to keep the masses under control of the minority Capitalist elite.

In the same breath I also don't believe in dinosaurs as it's a creation of the 20th century. Again the goal was the same. To debunk God and religion and create a multi billion dollar bullshit industry that still infects this world today. Factories in China have been exposed manufacturing so called "Dinosaur bones". Of course skeptics would say " but they measured the age of the bones to be millions of years old". But again,all testing facilities are under their control and they all cover up for each other for economic reasons as to not kill their multi billion dollar golden goose.

Veer ji i really like the points you have written as it does make sense about the dinosaurs and does sound confusing about their existance in older religious texts.

 

But you are right all the theories about human coming from monkey is all wrong and i feel sorry for who ever believes in those stories and where ever they came from. As its not a tree growing experiment coming from monkey then becoming a human.

 

The whole industry you mentioned veer ji is based on nastik people who don't believe in God at all. So i try to avoid that sort of stuff and influences.

 

 

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On 7/17/2019 at 12:08 PM, tva prasad said:

Some scientists say that the Universe began from nothing. Does that contradict with the beginning of the universe in Sikhism? Does "nothing" truly exist? If Vaheguru is omnipresent, therefore is present everywhere always, that contradicts the nature of "nothingness" or is "nothing" just the absence of maya (matter)? 

The knowledge of the scientists is limited to the material.

Waheguru is imperceptible to the 5 gyan indriyan or the 5 karam indriyan, also, is beyond the realms of mind and maya, time, space, which are subtler than matter, yet we believe Wahegru exists.

As per the principle of of science, as Waheguru is not seen and not reached by reason, His existence should be discarded. There are no such devices nor instruments to decipher the existence of Waheguru.

The knowledge of Waheguru, can be had only from Gurmukhs, Bhagat Jan and of course Guru Sahiban, as they all come  from that realm, which is the very home and permanent residence of Waheguru Akal Purukh, namely Sach Khand.

The science which teaches us  and enables us to reveal  the existence of that One Supreme Primal Being, Waheguru Akal Purukh or Satnam, is called Sikhee.

The jugtee is Nam Simran. Through it, we pierce and tear apart the  subtle layer of mind and maya, and we penetrate into the real of pure spirituality Parbraham and proceed further to the  only Truest and Supreme Being Waheguru, in His Shabad swaroop or form. 

He is Aad sach, jugaad Sach, hae bhee Sach, Nanak hosee bhee Sach. 

To reach Him, we need to board on the vessel of Nam : Nanak, Naam jahaaz hae, jinee chareeya, se utareeya paar.  Those who borad on the plane of Nam, get crossed over, from the transient and perishable realms of untruth , to the the one of eternity and changelessness, Satnam.

Moreover Gurbani tells us: Jin Har japeeya, se Har hoeeya. He who chants His Name, becomes Him

This is the highest truth in simple words. Through His jaap, we remove all the coverings which keep us prisoners in the mayavee realms, then once the soul gains its original consciousness of being a drop, a ray, of Waheguru , returns back to its source with the aid of Shabad/Naam.

Nothing comes out from nothing, so if the creation exists, we exist, the khands, the brahmands exist, then naturally there has to be a creator.

To that primal Creator, Gurbani describes it as Ik Oankar, Karta Purukh, which means, One creator alone, the doer of everything, whether seen or unseen.

That is the greatness of Guru Sahiban and the Bhagat Jan, who, by His Hukum come to awaken us, and share with us the inmensity and the majesty of that One Primal Supreme Being: Waheguru Akal Purukh.

Words just fail to describe Him adecuately , His beant wadeeayee ...

SSA

 

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