How Sikh Girls Are Targeted - SYUK presentation

[dalsingh101]

This is a good presentation, though the way the slides seem to jump back and forth can make it a bit difficult to keep track. I think keeping the slides progressing in a chronological order without jumping back to previous ones could possibly improve it even further. Great sewa! 

 

 

[Guest Singh One]

33 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:

This is a good presentation, though the way the slides seem to jump back and forth can make it a bit difficult to keep track. I think keeping the slides progressing in a chronological order without jumping back to previous ones could possibly improve it even further. Great sewa! 

 

 

Very disgusting and a painful reality ....

I would just wipe away these devils with something they are worthy  of, with a machine gun....

Bloody bastards ...

 

[dalsingh101]

On 2/8/2020 at 7:36 PM, Guest Singh One said:

Very disgusting and a painful reality ....

I would just wipe away these devils with something they are worthy  of, with a machine gun....

Bloody bastards ...

 

To me it seems more complex than that, the people targeting our community are operating in a wider national culture where pedophilia is covertly tolerated. That's why we had all the rampant pedophilia going on in the BBC for years, suspicious activity in Parliament itself and a blind eye turned towards decades of street level abuse of both apneean and lower working class gorian (in the thousands at least). It's now apparent that multiple police forces across England ignored this and even covered up for abusers. There is no way the political classes didn't know what was going on either. We can see the reaction to that women Labour MP in the slides who tried to highlight issues in this department in her constituency (she was removed from the front benches by the leader of her party Corbyn if I recall rightly). This is much wider than just perverts operating on street level. There has been complicity across agencies (like social services, media and the police, and even the political classes).  

People need to grasp that. 

 

Addition:

I should add, this 'cultural context' in England is changing as we speak (albeit reluctantly) because people are challenging it. Many people would rather things continue as they were, but we should never accept that. Those brothers and sisters amongst apnay who have challenged this and made sacrifices in doing so should feel proud that they have forced the establishment to face this issue. Although (sadly) thousands of girls have fallen foul of the long standing attitude towards the problem over many decades, they should remember that thousands upon thousands of girls are likely to have escaped the clutches of sexual predators due to their efforts at forewarning potential victims. They made a difference in the face of very powerful adversaries who consistently tried to obfuscate and vilify them (and still do!) and this activism should continue until we don't live in a society where organised groups of pedophiles and rapists who target vulnerable members of our community operate with impunity. 

[Guest Singh One]

17 hours ago, dalsingh101 said:

To me it seems more complex than that, the people targeting our community are operating in a wider national culture where pedophilia is covertly tolerated. That's why we had all the rampant pedophilia going on in the BBC for years, suspicious activity in Parliament itself and a blind eye turned towards decades of street level abuse of both apneean and lower working class gorian (in the thousands at least). It's now apparent that multiple police forces across England ignored this and even covered up for abusers. There is no way the political classes didn't know what was going on either. We can see the reaction to that women Labour MP in the slides who tried to highlight issues in this department in her constituency (she was removed from the front benches by the leader of her party Corbyn if I recall rightly). This is much wider than just perverts operating on street level. There has been complicity across agencies (like social services, media and the police, and even the political classes).  

People need to grasp that. 

 

Addition:

I should add, this 'cultural context' in England is changing as we speak (albeit reluctantly) because people are challenging it. Many people would rather things continue as they were, but we should never accept that. Those brothers and sisters amongst apnay who have challenged this and made sacrifices in doing so should feel proud that they have forced the establishment to face this issue. Although (sadly) thousands of girls have fallen foul of the long standing attitude towards the problem over many decades, they should remember that thousands upon thousands of girls are likely to have escaped the clutches of sexual predators due to their efforts at forewarning potential victims. They made a difference in the face of very powerful adversaries who consistently tried to obfuscate and vilify them (and still do!) and this activism should continue until we don't live in a society where organised groups of pedophiles and rapists who target vulnerable members of our community operate with impunity. 

 

The thing is, when  authorities regularly fail in terms of security  for the ordinary people,  people should join to fight the evil of these bastards groomers and drug trafickers.

We could join with the whites also who suffer equally as apnay, to go and bat them by smashing the heads of these mother f.....s

Evil has to be uprooted, enough in closing eyes and looking the other sides...

We all know, from  which community and devlish dharam  these bastards are, and spring up as mushrooms all over, so, once the media identifies them, then the next step is to locate them, and smash them and teach them the lesson,  that they just can not play with our girls and ruin their lives...without getting the  due punishment.

SSA.

P.S: I am not promoting any violence, for evil cannot go away without getting the due and proportional response

 

[dalsingh101]

On 2/10/2020 at 11:39 AM, Guest Singh One said:

 

The thing is, when  authorities regularly fail in terms of security  for the ordinary people,  people should join to fight the evil of these bastards groomers and drug trafickers.

We could join with the whites also who suffer equally as apnay, to go and bat them by smashing the heads of these mother f.....s

Evil has to be uprooted, enough in closing eyes and looking the other sides...

We all know, from  which community and devlish dharam  these bastards are, and spring up as mushrooms all over, so, once the media identifies them, then the next step is to locate them, and smash them and teach them the lesson,  that they just can not play with our girls and ruin their lives...without getting the  due punishment.

SSA.

P.S: I am not promoting any violence, for evil cannot go away without getting the due and proportional response

 

I agree that evil must be confronted and challenged. I think some active members of our quom has been doing this admirably for a while now - in spite of massive challenges and powerful institutes constantly trying to undermine and obfuscate their efforts . I think forming alliances like you suggest is a very bad idea, because we have no idea of the motives and backgrounds of the external people who might act like allies but have other agendas. And I can guarantee some of those who will latch on will be informants planted by various agencies (including some sections of the police) inimical to the Sikh community trying to address this issue. It would only take one or two rotten eggs to completely defame us and set back the progress we have made. Then the issue just gets sidelined and dismissed as one only extremists are concerned with, whereas it is clearly a matter many people in the panth, from all sorts of backgrounds are concerned about. From your average mona to Amritdharis and all the spectrum in between. This is a very common tactic that has been used against us for decades now - we have to be wise to it. 

The ideal situation is a cultural shift amongst our entire community in problem nations. What we really need to aim for is awareness and vigilance that starves the predators of their victims. We need girls to not get themselves into these situations in the first place! This can only be achieved by education; not only of those who might be targeted but also wider family members in terms of how they raise their children. We also need to tweak attitudes which are so lost in the rat race for material gain and success (understandably) that they do not feel the sense of panthic ekta that they should, and only act concerned when problems hit them close to home. Often such people will sweep issues they have experienced within their families under the rug in order to keep up some facade of being successful and not having problems. Right now we frequently have this coy, prudish attitude towards the matter (although this appears to be slowly changing). Some family elders seem reluctant to broach the issue because it is contentious and perceived to be a 'dirty' subject they would rather avoid. This has to change, and I believe it is changing - though it could be faster. 

Another key issue I think we need to address concurrently is the taboo matter of sexual abuse within our community, within families or family friends. I think Bhai Mohan Singh of the SAS has done good, pioneering work in this respect. These things are vastly underreported in all communities, especially conservative ones. In addressing external predators we shouldn't forget sweeping up under our own beds [manji] (as the Panjabi saying goes). 

[Soulfinder]

Its sickening of what is happening in the outside world especially for the young victims who are from dysfunctional families where nobody has tried to understand the victims thoughts or state of mind. Then they end up in this web of hell.

[Premi]

Bumping this