Getting Darshan of a Brahmgyani.

[Nalwa]

If anyone does bachan with Abhyasi(s), how much bhagti did they do to get darshan of a Sachkhandvasi Brahmgyani. In reality, is it extremely difficult or moderately difficult? 

[ragnarok]

in human form or a vision?

in terms of difficulty past karam is a factor. What may seem easy for one person would be due to past kamai.

[harsharan000]

9 hours ago, Nalwa said:

If anyone does bachan with Abhyasi(s), how much bhagti did they do to get darshan of a Sachkhandvasi Brahmgyani. In reality, is it extremely difficult or moderately difficult? 

Brother, 

It is not the amount of bhakti of anyone which can ever enable anyone to be worthy to have Their darshan, though that also purifiy us, and undoubtedly pleases Waheguru as seen in the Bani,  but it is only by Their beant kirpa that they reveal themselves to that wadbhagee jeev who selflessly and full heartedly, with utter love and devotion engages himself / herself in doing that correct bhakti.

All our efforts are like 0, but even that 0 has to be written by us on the slate, and then They as being the embodiment of all mercy, they just put  the 1(one) in front of our 0(zero), thus convert that 0  into 10 out of 10.

We all have heavy karmic load, so unless they extend their arm and pull us out, there is not much we can do.

Though as beggars, we should never leave their door, and keep up the knocking, for He the owner of His house, knows when to open the door and is willing to open it, but alas, there is hardly anybody doing the knocking, for all are busy with the manmat practices as seen mostly.

The bhakti which pleases Them/ Him, and draws us closer to Them, is the one of meditating upon His saacha Nao.

The Bani beautifully tells us:

DARSHAN PAAVA JHE TUDH BHAVAA.

So in short, the secret to have Their darshan, is to please Them, with Nam bhakti.

Stay blessed.

SSA.

[Nalwa]

6 hours ago, harsharan000 said:

 

Yeah, I understand now. Darshan is gifted, not taken by force. We can obtain their darshan, only with their kirpa alone. They do give guidance to true seekers. Heavy karmic load plays a big part, and the only way that can be eradicated is through Naam di kamaayi. I think what you're trying to get at is standing ground rigidly with complete faith, in every stage of the Naam Abhyasi Jeevan. All things rest upon Gurparsad.

[Soulfinder]

Getting darshan of a puran bramgyani is really really difficult as its hard to find in this kalyug with so many artificial sant baba that its hard to even spot a karnai wale sant. But a puran bramgyani do exist but they stay gupt and its hard to find one.

 

2nd is the sevadars they are like dictators as they only like rich influental people to vist and give them more access to mahapursh compared to normal sangat whom they don't respect at all which can be seen in ithasic historical gurdwara sahibs in india.

 

Also as mentioned its based on ones karams and bhagati levels that ones gets a chance to meet a mahapursh.

 

Another difficult task to get kamai of a mahapurshs bachan as that is not easy.

 

I have heard in katha about how abhyasis who stand in the line when waiting to see a mahapursh. The mahapursh can see the aura of the gurmukh and do call them over from the line whilst waiting.

 

I have met and heard saakhis of how people i know through my parents family have had darshan and bachan with Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji Rara Sahib, Baba Puran Singh Ji Kerchio Wale,Baba Mihan Singh Ji, Sant Harnam Singh Ji Rampur Khera Wale, Baba Isher Singh Ji Nanaksar etc. 

 

[harsharan000]

 

One more thing I would like to add in this beautiful thread is that, be it any Brahmgyani of any time, past, present or future, they meet or give darshan to those only who are mentioned to Them by Waheguru Akal Purukh.

Nobody can ever do anything by their own will, it is all Waheguru´s Hukum.  This we have to bear in mind, be it Guru Sahiban, be it Sant Jan, be it Gurmukhs, be it Bhagat Jan.... all act under  the Hukum of Waheguru.

Then also, related to this topic, I read sometime ago, that Brahmgyanis are like someone standing on top of the hill at night, from where  they can see the houses  down there which have the lights switched on,  thus those are the ones they go to visit or arrange in someway to meet them and give them whatever Waheguru´s hukum is for them.

Having said that, none of us know where or who is a Brahmgyani, for not knowing, we don´t even know what is going on in our next room, so how to look for that Brahmgyani?

Nevertheless, there is still an option left for us  by His grace, and that is to switch on the light of His Nam within us, by meditating on His sachaa  Nao, as seen throughout the Bani.

Who knows, when that Brahmgyani sees that the Jot of His Nam is lit within us through the Jaap of it  from the top of the hill, thus arrange accordingly to meet Them.

Brahmgyanis need not like us to go physically anywhere, for them the whole "kaynat" is an open book, right from Sach Khand to Patal Lok, nothing is hidden from them, thus they see the Jot in those beings from anywhere thery maybe, and know that they have an order for that jeeva from Akal Purukh to be delivered

Physicall darshan of Them is lovely, is most beautiful, is most valuable, is balhaar, but their real darshan is the one of Their spiritual form.

What mahima  to sing of Their physical darshan? Not everybody values it. 

For example, Prithi Chand had Akal Purukh as his father, and another form of Akal Purukh as his brother, but inspite of living under the same roof and having Their physical darshan 24 x 7 , he did not recognize the reality of Them, thus remained wicked as he was .

It is by having the spiritual darshan of Them, that one stops commiting nonsense, for then, there is quite some spiritual purity in us by Their grace, thus be able to have Their darshan.

SSA.

 

[AkalKiFauj]

Are there any mahaphurakhs in the uk at the moment that are known of?

[sevak]

On 3/29/2020 at 6:42 AM, harsharan000 said:

Brother, 

It is not the amount of bhakti of anyone which can ever enable anyone to be worthy to have Their darshan, though that also purifiy us, and undoubtedly pleases Waheguru as seen in the Bani,  but it is only by Their beant kirpa that they reveal themselves to that wadbhagee jeev who selflessly and full heartedly, with utter love and devotion engages himself / herself in doing that correct bhakti.

All our efforts are like 0, but even that 0 has to be written by us on the slate, and then They as being the embodiment of all mercy, they just put  the 1(one) in front of our 0(zero), thus convert that 0  into 10 out of 10.

We all have heavy karmic load, so unless they extend their arm and pull us out, there is not much we can do.

Though as beggars, we should never leave their door, and keep up the knocking, for He the owner of His house, knows when to open the door and is willing to open it, but alas, there is hardly anybody doing the knocking, for all are busy with the manmat practices as seen mostly.

The bhakti which pleases Them/ Him, and draws us closer to Them, is the one of meditating upon His saacha Nao.

The Bani beautifully tells us:

DARSHAN PAAVA JHE TUDH BHAVAA.

So in short, the secret to have Their darshan, is to please Them, with Nam bhakti.

Stay blessed.

SSA.

Excellent !!!!! Very nicely described !!!!!