Hari Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 The following is from Hindu Scriptures Translated by R.C.Zaehner. Rig Veda X, cxxix: 'In the Beginning...' 1. Then neither Being nor Not-being was, Nor atmosphere, nor firmament, nor what is beyond. What did it encompass? Where? In whose protection? What was the water, the deep, unfathomable? 2. Neither death nor immortality was there then, No sign of night or day. The One breathed windless, by its own energy (svadha): Nought else existed then. 3. In the beginning was darkness swathed in darkness; All this was but unmanifested water. Whatever was, that One, coming into being, Hidden by the Void, Was generated by the power of heat (tapas). 4. In the beginning this One evolved, Became desire, first seed of mind. Wise seers, searching within their hearts, Found the bond of Being in Not-being. 5. Their cord was extended athwart: Was there below? Was there an above? Casters of seed there were, and powers; Beneath was energy, above was impulse. 6. Who knows truly? Who can here declare it? Whence it was born, whence is this emanation. By the emanation of this the gods Only later [came to be]. Who then knows whence it has arisen? 7. Whence this emanation hath arisen, Wether [God} disposed it, or wether he did not, - Only he who is its overseer in highest heaven knows. [He only knows,] or perhaps he does not know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hari Posted March 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 I can't really comment on the accuracy of R.C.Zaehners translation of this Rig Ved verse, but I hope it's whet your apetite for Vedik scripture. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheena Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 i don't get the last Paragraph, it creates doubt, 7. Whence this emanation hath arisen, Wether [God} disposed it, or wether he did not, - Only he who is its overseer in highest heaven knows. [He only knows,] or perhaps he does not know. How could he not know, is it trying to show that there is no way to every fully know. Faith is based on the thought that atleast someone knows, if he does not know then who knows. There has to be One that knows??!!?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tSingh Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 Zaehner's not well regarded, as he has a very Christian approach to other faiths. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Javanmard Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 I would suggest Varenne's translation though he was a Neo-Nazi idiot (curse on him :evil: :evil: :evil: :twisted: :twisted: ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hari Posted April 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 i don't get the last Paragraph, it creates doubt, 7. Whence this emanation hath arisen, Wether [God} disposed it, or wether he did not, - Only he who is its overseer in highest heaven knows. [He only knows,] or perhaps he does not know. How could he not know, is it trying to show that there is no way to every fully know. Faith is based on the thought that atleast someone knows, if he does not know then who knows. There has to be One that knows??!!?? This is typical of the Vedik literature.The last sentence talks about knowing and not knowing.That only the Ishvar knows, or perhaps he does not know :wink: . That last bit is a knowing wink made by the Veda.You'll find a lot of these winks in such great literature. It talks of knowing and not knowing.What is it to know?What is it to not know?Damn, I could go deeper, but just prefer to say :arrow: Naam. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tSingh Posted April 25, 2004 Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 the beauty of seeming paradox...it makes my heart skip a beat...you know you've come to the end of your reason's usefulness, yet deep down you feel it is an enormous truth! Kabir puts this well but I can't find the bani... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hari Posted April 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 you know you've come to the end of your reason's usefulness, yet deep down you feel it is an enormous truth! Exactly!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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