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i think black magic has alot to do with sikhi, as it is a science and sikhi is a study of all the qualities of god even those we may regard as evil they are still part of akaal purakh. !!

wether one should engage in black magic well I would have to say my opinion is hell no way man, but if your ever intrested try learning about the consequences before the actual methods.

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i don't know, i'm a little skeptical about black magic, i don't believe in it, i ust belive in karma, etc. what goes around comes around, and that what we've done in our past life effects us now. i don't really get the whole idea of someone saying some kind of chant that will cast a curse on someone, i think its all bs, no offence.

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Yes...Black Magic.

Personally I'd choose a box of Belgian chocolates

goddamit, i was gonna write something like that....but then I wud hve jsut got told off. (Quality Street)

ps Isn't black magic just another face of the mystical spiritual world that none of us really understand? So like dynamo_banda inferred it's all related.

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I think Guru Nanak Dev Ji met women who praticed Black Magic to lure men and the women tryed to lure Guru Nanak Ji, but he wasnt effected by the Black Magic.

Also heres a Hukamnama which was done on January 9, 2005, Sunday 05:30 AM.

BILAAVAL, FIFTH MEHL:

Worship and adore God in your mind and body; join the Company of the Holy. Chanting the Glorious Praises of the Lord of the Universe, the Messenger of Death runs far away. || 1 || That humble being who chants the Lord’s Name, remains always awake and aware, night and day. He is not affected by charms and spells, nor is he harmed by the evil eye. || 1 || Pause || Sexual desire, anger, the intoxication of egotism and emotional attachment are dispelled, by loving devotion. One who enters the Lord’s Sanctuary, O Nanak, remains merged in ecstasy in the subtle essence of the Lord’s Love. || 2 || 4 || 68 ||

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I find it hard to buy the concept of Shaiytan. Muslims also believe in Judgement Day, and Guru Ji debunked that myth long ago.

Only thing that comes closer to shaitan is Kalyug, but he is also a obedient servant of God.

Some of the stuff was disgusting.

Bro, where do you unearth this stuff lol

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6 minutes ago, Ragmaala said:

Muslims also believe in Judgement Day, and Guru Ji debunked that myth long ago.

Sri Satguru jee did not debunk the concept of Judgement day, but rather explained it correctly to the people of Abrahamic faiths. People have misunderstood the Prophets.

Gyani Kulwant Singh jee explained it beautifully in his katha, how Qiyamat (Judgement Day) fits into Gurmat.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

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2 hours ago, paapiman said:

Sri Satguru jee did not debunk the concept of Judgement day, but rather explained it correctly to the people of Abrahamic faiths. People have misunderstood the Prophets.

Gyani Kulwant Singh jee explained it beautifully in his katha, how Qiyamat (Judgement Day) fits into Gurmat.

 

Bhul chuk maaf

 

Would you mind shedding some light on this please?

 

 

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Of course there is a judgement day per se. How do you think I came back? :)

Judgement day of when your lekha is presented and decided by Dharamraj, occurs for many individuals. Not everyone has the opportunity to be present in the court of the Lord. The very lowly sinners will go directly to narak (escorted by the jamdoots) and will remain there until they learn and realise. The very high avastha gurmukhs bypass all the realms and go directly into warming lap of Waheguru in sachkhand.

My personal understanding is that there are many individuals that may have had a good wealth of naam kamayee in previous janams, but in this janam they may have screwed up and accumulated an excess of bad karams and deeds. These are the ones that usually have their fate decided in the presence of Dharamraj and God's angels. Sometimes their previous kamayee may erase or sometimes they may have to be reborn just to bhog some karams. How these are dealt with is all in his hands and depends on what the balance of the lekha is and how the "hasaab" is balanced.

 

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On 2016-07-03 at 3:58 AM, Lucky said:

Of course there is a judgement day per se. How do you think I came back? :)

lol I know. I was talking about the muslim version where everyone rests in grave until they are risen up from earth and judged to heaven or hell for eternity. As papiman mentioned , they have interpreted it wrong.

On 2016-07-03 at 3:58 AM, Lucky said:

Judgement day of when your lekha is presented and decided by Dharamraj, occurs for many individuals

How long does it take for Dharamraj to judge each person ? I cannot imagine what will happen man...all these things are mentioned in Gurbani but mind thinks since I am a Sikh it wont happen to me , its for others. Mind forgets it again & again. But it is a good reminder to hear from someone knowledgeable.

btw have you seen Dharamraj, you can pm me if you like.

Thanks. It helps to hear from others. Repetition is necessary to engrave certain concepts in buddhi & then acting accordingly.

I guess this is the reason Guru ji have taught the importance of Naam & Sift Salah of Waheguru in 1430 pages. Mind likes variety and Gurbani teaches mind in its various states about Naam.

 

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I think its mentioned in SGGS, in that Naam keeps such things away.

As per Sikh 'exorcism'- well one thing that comes to mind is an incident narrated by Bhai Randhir Singh whereby he cured his father from a potentially fatal illness by sudden inspiration to do intense japa of Japji pauris (the 'mannai' pauris).  I read it in English online somewhere but cannot find it.  Anyway a similar approach could be used with Naam japa or Japji pauri perhaps for exorcism. 

Jesus's disciples also used to perform exorcism with Jesus's name, but I do not think the technique is described in the Bible.

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14 hours ago, Guest guest said:

As per Sikh 'exorcism'- well one thing that comes to mind is an incident narrated by Bhai Randhir Singh whereby he cured his father from a potentially fatal illness by sudden inspiration to do intense japa of Japji pauris (the 'mannai' pauris).  I read it in English online somewhere but cannot find it.  Anyway a similar approach could be used with Naam japa or Japji pauri perhaps for exorcism. 

Bro, is there any reference to Black magic from the life of Bhai Sahib jee?

Thanks

 

Bhul chuk maaf

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On ‎4‎/‎07‎/‎2016 at 11:52 PM, Ragmaala said:

lol I know. I was talking about the muslim version where everyone rests in grave until they are risen up from earth and judged to heaven or hell for eternity. As papiman mentioned , they have interpreted it wrong.

How long does it take for Dharamraj to judge each person ? I cannot imagine what will happen man...all these things are mentioned in Gurbani but mind thinks since I am a Sikh it wont happen to me , its for others. Mind forgets it again & again. But it is a good reminder to hear from someone knowledgeable.

btw have you seen Dharamraj, you can pm me if you like.

Thanks. It helps to hear from others. Repetition is necessary to engrave certain concepts in buddhi & then acting accordingly.

I guess this is the reason Guru ji have taught the importance of Naam & Sift Salah of Waheguru in 1430 pages. Mind likes variety and Gurbani teaches mind in its various states about Naam.

 

suleman pret said it takes a year to get there (heaven, hell, etc., ect.). I don't know if it is the same for brahmgianis and high avastha gurmukhs. Suleman pret said: Dharamraj has a long white beard, handsome man, (can't remember the others)

in Abrahamic religions it is believed that shaiytan/ satan is an actual living thing and his power is parallel to god. He is also worshiped by many (especially in America. Lol).Most if not all rich people worship him. Most singers do too. But sikhi says there no parallel power to god. There is only Maya when it comes to sikhi.

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