Balbir Singh Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakal! Our Gurus have sung a lot about becoming Suhaagan (married as woman). Did they become female? Balbir Singh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAadmin Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 Our Gurus have sung a lot about becoming Suhaagan (married as woman). I think we shouldn't take gurbani literally at times... suhagan is metaphor used for vahiguroo from spiritual perspective and guru maharaj has used both male and female as widows or not married.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 what do you become women - physically, emotionally, mentally? :roll: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balbir Singh Posted May 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 Satsriakal to all and N30 Singh JI! You wrote "I think we shouldn't take gurbani literally at times... suhagan is metaphor . . ." A metaphor is, according to a dictionary, a figure of speech in which an expression is used to refer to something that it does not literally denote in order to suggest a similarity. A truth is a fact that has been verified. I feel that Gurbani is Truth. Gurbani is not metaphor. -------------- Satsriakal Challenge_everything Ji! You asked "what do you become women - physically, emotionally, mentally?" The answer is, in my view, all levels. Gurbani says "mai kaaman mayraa kant kartaar." I am the bride; the Creator is my Husband Lord. "jayhaa karaa-ay tayhaa karee seegaar." As He inspires me, I adorn myself. "jaaN tis bhaavai taaN karay bhog." When it pleases Him, He enjoys me. "tan man saachay saahib jog." Body and mind are for True Lord. SGGS page 1128 Balbir Singh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 a beautiful answer.... yet answetr the question - is there some sort of 'sex-change' which is taking place on a physical level that you are alluding to or do u mean something spiritual? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAadmin Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 Response from sikhnet: Enjoy ! My understanding is that we should worship Waheguru just like a bride’s love and devotion for her groom and give love to Waheguru unconditionally. All humans are not Females but devotion should be like a female love for her spouse. Make Waheguru as your spouse, Husband. Surrender your body and mind to the True Guru. Embellish yourself with the Service for Waheguru pleasure. Just like a Suhaagan’s love for her Husband. Become Lord’s Suhaagan……Sadda Suhaagan. Get lost in Waheguru’s love and service. Submit like a female love for Waheguru. (May be today’s wives do not have same kind of devotion for their husbands as our guru’s time, but that can be another discussion) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenge_everything Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 Maharaj cites qualities in all beings like the quality that a fish has in it's love for water. Maharaaj is not telling us to become fish or saying that waheguru is water yet the exmaple is used to show us the way. Examples must be used for us to understand the inexplicable and taste the unreachable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balbir Singh Posted May 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 Satsriakal to all and N30 Singh Ji! Thanks for your reference. Please let me share this with you and all. A human being rolls so many Papads to fill his belly and to know Truth. Learned preachers have added in this list many more. These are: 1. Devotion should be like a female love for her spouse. 2. Make Waheguru as your spouse, Husband. 3. Surrender your body and mind to the True Guru. 4. Embellish yourself with the Service for Waheguru pleasure, just like a Suhaagan’s love for her Husband. 5. Become Lord’s Suhaagan, Sadda Suhaagan. 6. Get lost in Waheguru’s love and service. 7. Submit like a female love for Waheguru. I am not sure if any of these smartness lies within the reach of a person. Who is able to ever own these treasures without Guru's True Shabad? Love. Balbir Singh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalvir Posted May 27, 2005 Report Share Posted May 27, 2005 Response from sikhnet: Enjoy ! i think Sikhnet said it exactly perfect!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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