what is this stage called in bhagti when u hear waheguru

[DHANBABANANAK]

what is this stage called in bhagti when u hear waheguru vibrating from your hair and all ur body?

[Guest]

That stage is described in gurbani as- Gurmukh Rom Rom Har Dhaavaiye ||

[DHANBABANANAK]

so is this stage mukt? or ajjapa jap?

[DHANBABANANAK]

also where is this in bani? Gurmukh Rom Rom Har Dhaavaiye ?

[Guest]

I don't have the page number but someone must know...just wait for the page number as for getting mukht- it's one of the final stages towards mukhti. ..sort of indication towards turiya avastha(final stage).

[karmjeet]

well the first stage is the jaap in your kanth. then comes in your heart . then comes the jaap in yor navel . and from it spreads to every rom . after that person strts hearin waheguru from outside , from every tree , birds , animals , machines etc. tht's wt i heard in katha by giani thakur singh ji

bhul chukk maaf

[DHANBABANANAK]

wow amazing! Does the jaap go to trikuti? after navel? and what about the opening of trikuti? and then dasam duaar? when that happen

[DHANBABANANAK]

Gurmukh Rom Rom Har Dhaavaiye is @ pg 941 of Guru Granth Sahib Ji

[DHANBABANANAK]

Page 941

so bUJY ijsu Awip buJwey gur kY sbid su mukqu BieAw ] (941-1, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

so boojhai jis aap bujhaa-ay gur kai sabad so mukat bha-i-aa.

He alone understands, whom the Lord inspires to understand. Through the Word of the Guru's Shabad, one is liberated.

nwnk qwry qwrxhwrw haumY dUjw prhirAw ]25] (941-2, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

naanak taaray taaranhaaraa ha-umai doojaa parhari-aa. ||25||

O Nanak, the Emancipator emancipates one who drives out egotism and duality. ||25||

mnmuiK BUlY jm kI kwix ] (941-2, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

manmukh bhoolai jam kee kaan.

The self-willed manmukhs are deluded, under the shadow of death.

pr Gru johY hwxy hwix ] (941-2, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

par ghar johai haanay haan.

They look into the homes of others, and lose.

mnmuiK Brim BvY bybwix ] (941-3, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

manmukh bharam bhavai baybaan.

The manmukhs are confused by doubt, wandering in the wilderness.

vymwrig mUsY mMiqR mswix ] (941-3, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

vaymaarag moosai mantar masaan.

Having lost their way, they are plundered; they chant their mantras at cremation grounds.

sbdu n cInY lvY kubwix ] (941-3, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

sabad na cheenai lavai kubaan.

They do not think of the Shabad; instead, they utter obscenities.

nwnk swic rqy suKu jwix ]26] (941-4, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

naanak saach ratay sukh jaan. ||26||

O Nanak, those who are attuned to the Truth know peace. ||26||

gurmuiK swcy kw Bau pwvY ] (941-4, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

gurmukh saachay kaa bha-o paavai.

The Gurmukh lives in the Fear of God, the True Lord.

gurmuiK bwxI AGVu GVwvY ] (941-4, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

gurmukh banee agharh gharhaavai.

Through the Word of the Guru's Bani, the Gurmukh refines the unrefined.

gurmuiK inrml hir gux gwvY ] (941-5, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

gurmukh nirmal har gun gaavai.

The Gurmukh sings the immaculate, Glorious Praises of the Lord.

gurmuiK pivqRü prm pdu pwvY ] (941-5, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

gurmukh pavitar param pad paavai.

The Gurmukh attains the supreme, sanctified status.

gurmuiK roim roim hir iDAwvY ] (941-5, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

gurmukh rom rom har Dhi-aavai.

The Gurmukh meditates on the Lord with every hair of his body.

nwnk gurmuiK swic smwvY ]27] (941-6, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

naanak gurmukh saach samaavai. ||27||

O Nanak, the Gurmukh merges in Truth. ||27||

gurmuiK prcY byd bIcwrI ] (941-6, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

gurmukh parchai bayd beechaaree.

The Gurmukh is pleasing to the True Guru; this is contemplation on the Vedas.

gurmuiK prcY qrIAY qwrI ] (941-6, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

gurmukh parchai taree-ai taaree.

Pleasing the True Guru, the Gurmukh is carried across.

gurmuiK prcY su sbid igAwnI ] (941-7, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

gurmukh parchai so sabad gi-aanee.

Pleasing the True Guru, the Gurmukh receives the spiritual wisdom of the Shabad.

gurmuiK prcY AMqr ibiD jwnI ] (941-7, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

gurmukh parchai antar biDh jaanee.

Pleasing the True Guru, the Gurmukh comes to know the path within.

gurmuiK pweIAY AlK Apwru ] (941-7, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

gurmukh paa-ee-ai alakh apaar.

The Gurmukh attains the unseen and infinite Lord.

nwnk gurmuiK mukiq duAwru ]28] (941-8, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

naanak gurmukh mukat du-aar. ||28||

O Nanak, the Gurmukh finds the door of liberation. ||28||

gurmuiK AkQu kQY bIcwir ] (941-8, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

gurmukh akath kathai beechaar.

The Gurmukh speaks the unspoken wisdom.

gurmuiK inbhY sprvwir ] (941-8, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

gurmukh nibhai saparvaar.

In the midst of his family, the Gurmukh lives a spiritual life.

gurmuiK jpIAY AMqir ipAwir ] (941-9, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

gurmukh japee-ai antar pi-aar.

The Gurmukh lovingly meditates deep within.

gurmuiK pweIAY sbid Acwir ] (941-9, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

gurmukh paa-ee-ai sabad achaar.

The Gurmukh obtains the Shabad, and righteous conduct.

sbid Byid jwxY jwxweI ] (941-9, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

sabad bhayd jaanai jaanaa-ee.

He knows the mystery of the Shabad, and inspires others to know it.

nwnk haumY jwil smweI ]29] (941-10, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

naanak ha-umai jaal samaa-ee. ||29||

O Nanak, burning away his ego, he merges in the Lord. ||29||

gurmuiK DrqI swcY swjI ] (941-10, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

gurmukh Dhartee saachai saajee.

The True Lord fashioned the earth for the sake of the Gurmukhs.

iqs mih Epiq Kpiq su bwjI ] (941-10, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

tis meh opat khapat so baajee.

There, he set in motion the play of creation and destruction.

gur kY sbid rpY rMgu lwie ] (941-11, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

gur kai sabad rapai rang laa-ay.

One who is filled with the Word of the Guru's Shabad enshrines love for the Lord.

swic rqau piq isau Gir jwie ] (941-11, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

saach rata-o pat si-o ghar jaa-ay.

Attuned to the Truth, he goes to his home with honor.

swc sbd ibnu piq nhI pwvY ] (941-11, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

saach sabad bin pat nahee paavai.

Without the True Word of the Shabad, no one receives honor.

nwnk ibnu nwvY ikau swic smwvY ]30] (941-12, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

naanak bin naavai ki-o saach samaavai. ||30||

O Nanak, without the Name, how can one be absorbed in Truth? ||30||

gurmuiK Ast isDI siB buDI ] (941-12, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

gurmukh asat siDhee sabh buDhee.

The Gurmukh obtains the eight miraculous spiritual powers, and all wisdom.

gurmuiK Bvjlu qrIAY sc suDI ] (941-12, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

gurmukh bhavjal taree-ai sach suDhee.

The Gurmukh crosses over the terrifying world-ocean, and obtains true understanding.

gurmuiK sr Apsr ibiD jwxY ] (941-13, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

gurmukh sar apsar biDh jaanai.

The Gurmukh knows the ways of truth and untruth.

gurmuiK privriq nrivriq pCwxY ] (941-13, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

gurmukh parvirat narvirat pachhaanai.

The Gurmukh knows worldliness and renunciation.

gurmuiK qwry pwir auqwry ] (941-14, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

gurmukh taaray paar utaaray.

The Gurmukh crosses over, and carries others across as well.

nwnk gurmuiK sbid insqwry ]31] (941-14, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

naanak gurmukh sabad nistaaray. ||31||

O Nanak, the Gurmukh is emancipated through the Shabad. ||31||

nwmy rwqy haumY jwie ] (941-14, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

naamay raatay ha-umai jaa-ay.

Attuned to the Naam, the Name of the Lord, egotism is dispelled.

nwim rqy sic rhy smwie ] (941-15, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

naam ratay sach rahay samaa-ay.

Attuned to the Naam, they remain absorbed in the True Lord.

nwim rqy jog jugiq bIcwru ] (941-15, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

naam ratay jog jugat beechaar.

Attuned to the Naam, they contemplate the Way of Yoga.

nwim rqy pwvih moK duAwru ] (941-15, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

naam ratay paavahi mokh du-aar.

Attuned to the Naam, they find the door of liberation.

nwim rqy iqRBvx soJI hoie ] (941-15, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

naam ratay taribhavan sojhee ho-ay.

Attuned to the Naam, they understand the three worlds.

nwnk nwim rqy sdw suKu hoie ]32] (941-16, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

naanak naam ratay sadaa sukh ho-ay. ||32||

O Nanak, attuned to the Naam, eternal peace is found. ||32||

nwim rqy isD gosit hoie ] (941-16, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

naam ratay siDh gosat ho-ay.

Attuned to the Naam, they attain Sidh Gosht - conversation with the Siddhas.

nwim rqy sdw qpu hoie ] (941-17, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

naam ratay sadaa tap ho-ay.

Attuned to the Naam, they practice intense meditation forever.

nwim rqy scu krxI swru ] (941-17, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

naam ratay sach karnee saar.

Attuned to the Naam, they live the true and excellent lifestyle.

nwim rqy gux igAwn bIcwru ] (941-17, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

naam ratay gun gi-aan beechaar.

Attuned to the Naam, they contemplate the Lord's virtues and spiritual wisdom.

ibnu nwvY bolY sBu vykwru ] (941-17, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

bin naavai bolai sabh vaykaar.

Without the Name, all that is spoken is useless.

nwnk nwim rqy iqn kau jYkwru ]33] (941-18, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

naanak naam ratay tin ka-o jaikaar. ||33||

O Nanak, attuned to the Naam, their victory is celebrated. ||33||

pUry gur qy nwmu pwieAw jwie ] (941-18, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

pooray gur tay naam paa-i-aa jaa-ay.

Through the Perfect Guru, one obtains the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

jog jugiq sic rhY smwie ] (941-19, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

jog jugat sach rahai samaa-ay.

The Way of Yoga is to remain absorbed in Truth.

bwrh mih jogI Brmwey sMinAwsI iCA cwir ] (941-19, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

baarah meh jogee bharmaa-ay sani-aasee chhi-a chaar.

The Yogis wander in the twelve schools of Yoga; the Sannyaasis in six and four.

gur kY sbid jo mir jIvY so pwey moK duAwru ] (941-19, rwmklI, mÚ 1)

gur kai sabad jo mar jeevai so paa-ay mokh du-aar.

One who remains dead while yet alive, through the Word of the Guru's Shabad, finds the door of liberation.

[karmjeet]

wow amazing! Does the jaap go to trikuti? after navel? and what about the opening of trikuti? and then dasam duaar? when that happen

i dunno bhaji

i will tell u when this happens to me(if gurkirpa) :D

[Guest]

when avastha of gurmukh rom rom har dhavaey comes - all the chakaras get opened... then with your surat you can reach to trikurti easily - more you go upwards more intense samadhi will be..when one reaches nirvakalap samadhi - usualy person cannot live more than 20 minutes (according to one of tape- baba jagjit singh ji's, if there is not any purpose to fullfill in the world) because of intensity you are very close to realising your prana via bhram randar nari (Vein) to dasam dwara(sachkhand). ..

All the mahapursh from bhai dya singh sampardha were very open on this subject...they were jevan mukht fully - they realesed their pryan in front of people by taking breath in all the way and draw that cycle of breath out ( travelling chakars from down to the top - eventually breaking bhram randhari nari - exit via dasam dawara...after such mahapursh leave their bodies..students/shardulou usually found a very subtle blood coming out on tip of their head - result of breaking bhram randhar nari ( subtle vein).

[DHANBABANANAK]

wot u mean by ' usualy person cannot live more than 20 minutes '?

[Guest]

wot u mean by ' usualy person cannot live more than 20 minutes '?

because of the intensity of bhagti. This kinda things can be expereinced ..this is not sceince... !

[DHANBABANANAK]

Karmajit is this katha by giani thakur singh ji online? if so plz paste the link. Thanx

[Driver]

On 03/07/2005 at 8:49 PM, Guest said:

when avastha of gurmukh rom rom har dhavaey comes - all the chakaras get opened... then with your surat you can reach to trikurti easily - more you go upwards more intense samadhi will be..when one reaches nirvakalap samadhi - usualy person cannot live more than 20 minutes (according to one of tape- baba jagjit singh ji's, if there is not any purpose to fullfill in the world)

 

I am not sure if you guys will read this reply now as this post id more than 10-12 yrs old. 

According to a tape of sant ishar singh ji rara sahib, 4 types of smadhis are there:

 

1. Shabad roop- saaVikalap: means its withh shabad and with though waves also, example , u r chanting gurmantar and thinking about God also,( more or less but there are thought waves)

2. Ashabad roop- saaVikalap:

in this u r not chanting any mantar but only thinking about God, 

3. Shabad roop- nirVikalap:

its when u r chanting a mantar( by tongue or by mentally by baikhari or by madmaa or by praa or by psanti) but there is absolutely no thought waves, all the thought are merged in shabad, no other thoughts.

( the rom rom avashtha can approach upto here, in this there is no thought waves but yet there is one thing that is shabad)

 

4. This is the 4 stage of samadhi, no kathavachak tells this way baba ishar singh used fo tell sangat, most kathavachaks says that this avastha a person can live only 7 days or 5 days but according to sant ji its

Ashabad roop-nirvikalap

means no shabad no gurmantar no light no thought waves, complete sunn, sant ji also used to say that  its to hard to say what exactly is this stage, they said no idea what this stage is, only who approach can feel

[harsharan000]

On 7/3/2005 at 11:39 PM, DHANBABANANAK said:

what is this stage called in bhagti when u hear waheguru vibrating from your hair and all ur body?

Brother, 

this stage is called ROM ROM SIMRAN, it usually and most probably happens with some type of pranayam/jaap/ meditation/concentration.

SSA.