Illustrated: Hinduization of Sikh Faith & History

[SAadmin]

taken from tapoban.org

Illustrated: Hinduization of Sikh Faith & History

Based on “Tabai Roas Jagio” by Dr. Sukhpreet Singh Udokay

Last week’s announcement by the VHP of putting portraits of Guru Gobind Singh and Sree Guru Granth Sahib in Hindu Mandirs has shocked Sikhs worldwide. The fact is that attacks on the Sikh faith and history have been ongoing for years in order to show Sikhs to be a part of Hinduism.

How Did This Begin?

Brahminism has always feared the Sikh faith. The Sikh Gurus proclaimed the equality of all humanity and rejected practices like caste, holy threads and worship of the cow. The exploitation of simple people by the Brahmin was eliminated. Although Hindu fundamentalists have taken a keen interest in destroying Sikhism for centuries, this latest cycle of Hindu attacks on Sikhism can be traced to 1993. The Sikh Liberation Movement had been brutally crushed in Punjab and was on its final breaths. Sikh villagers were afraid of being identified as being practicing Sikhs and roves of young Sikh men were cutting their hair so that they would not be harassed or killed by the police.

It was at this point that a new “Sikh” organization, the Rashtri Sikh Sangat began to enter Sikh villages. This organization began to distribute literature about the Sikh faith and hold meetings. Many villagers thought that it was an attempt to revive Sikh pride, but in fact, the literature was written to show Sikhs to be a part of Hinduism.

Akali Dal/BJP/RSS Alliance

Badal & RSS Leaders

The “Akali” party of Punjab, while claiming to represent Sikhs, is lead by the same old men who allowed the 1978 Amritsar massacre and the martyrdom of Bhai Fauja Singh and 12 other fellow Singhs. They are the same ones who let Gurbachana Narakdhari go unpunished.

The Akali party, in an alliance with the Hindu BJP began to rule Punjab. The RSS activity in Punjab also increased. Sangh programs were held in places like Guru Nanak Dev Stadium (Ludhiana) with the presence of Parkash Badal and other Akali/BJP leaders. On November 16, 1997, Badal while introducing the new RSS chief sad, “I can say with confidence that the Sangh, under the leadership of Raju Bhaiya is working towards removing all its shortcomings. Whenever this country has faced either internal or external danger, the Sangh and it’s workers have been on the front lines.

Today, I am feeling very lucky to be a part of this gathering.”

Raju Bhaiya in his speech that day, in the presence of Badal, declared, “All Hindus are Sikhs and Sikhs Hindus. We are all one. Some grow hair and some don’t. I say that All Hindus are Sikhs and all Sikh are Hindus. Our principles are the same. With the help of unity, we become very powerful…People are right when they say that Hindus have the power to make Hindustan a leader in the world!”

An RSS Poster for Punjab

Under the watchful guidance of this unholy alliance, the RSS increased its parchar amongst the Sikhs. It was a perfect time to move in for the kill. The Sikhs had been beaten very badly by the Indian government and their confidence had been shaken. The RSS would give the Sikhs sweet poison. They shouted loudly that the RSS and all Hindus LOVED Sikhs. They would preach that Sikhs were after all no different than Hindus. The Sikh Gurus were true Hindus and Brahma, Shiva and Vishnu blessed the Sikh faith. The Sikhs, they claimed, should feel proud as the sword-arm of Hinduism.

In this way, the RSS has tried to make the Sikh masses try to take pride in establishing a link between Sikhism and Hinduism. Once this link becomes solid, the RSS has already devised a plan to decay the foundations of the Sikh faith and history.

India's "Heros": Guru Nanak an equal of Indira Gandhi?

Who is the Rashtriya Sikh Sangat?

The Rashtriya Sikh Sangat (RSS) was officially formed on November 23, 1986 in Amritsar. The founder was one “Shamsher Sinh”

The express goals of the RSS are

1) To strengthen the bonds between Sikhs and Hindus to promote National unity, awareness and patriotism.

2) To make Guru Nanak’s “Hindustan Smaalsee Bola” a reality and maintain national patriotism and unity.

3) To promote Sri Guru Bani fro Sri Guru Granth Sahib

4) To perform seva with “Sarbat Da Bhala” in mind.

The Rashtriya Sikh Sangat has 500 branches across India and publishes the magazine “Sangat Sandesh”.

Other goals of this organization are the creation of a Mandar at Ayodhya’s “Ram Janam Bhoomi” and also a Gurdwara to commemorate visits by Guru Nanak, Guru Tegh Bahadur and Guru Gobind Singh.

Every month, the Rashtriya Sikh Sangat has a function in which occasionally Sri Guru Granth Sahib is parkash and sometimes not. Usually the function takes place with paintings of Guru Nanak, Guru Tegh Bahadur and Guru Gobind Singh at the front. These paintings are accompanied by paintings of Ram and Krishna. The paintings are garlanded with flowers.

The meeting begins with 5 readings of the Mool Mantar and then 20 minutes of keertan. After this, Sukhmani Sahib or Ram Avtar or Krishan Avtar are read. This is followed by a singing of “Vanday Matram”.

The meeting concludes with a 20 minute lecture on the history the original RSS founder Golvarkar and discussion of the role of Sanskrit in Sri Guru Granth Sahib or some other similar topic.

Some Quotes…

* “Instead of sacrificing humans, Guru ji sacrificed goats and started the tradition of Punj Pyaaray. All five Pyaaras were followers of the Hindu faith” {Dr. Himmat Sinh in Rashtra Dharam)

* “The Sikh Gurus showed faith in the Hindu faith and visited Hindu pilgrimage sites to show this” (Rashtra Dharam, p. 31)

* “When Guru Arjan was doing the Kar Seva of Harimandeir, Vishnu reflected and said, “Lakshmi, the Guru is my own form. There is no difference between us. He is making my temple. Let us go and see the building of our new temple…” (Rashtra Dharam, 90)

* “The difference between Hindus and Sikhs was the creation of the English mind.” (Rashtra Dharam, 98)

* “If today someone were to make a portrait of Guru Nanak without a beard and turban, his life would be in danger but in fact, the practice of keeping long hair and beards began only in the 20th Century. (Madhu Kishvara, Hindustan Times Aug 21, 1999)

* “Guru Arjan Dev and Guru Tegh Bahadur used to pay obeisance to the feet of the Devi” (Surindar Kumar, Jag Bani)

* “Guru Gobind Singh with the blessings of the Avtars (Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva) created the Khalsa Panth.” (Sangat Sandesh, Sept 1998)

* “Maharana Partap, the Rani of Jhansi and Guru Gobind Singh were all great patriots” (Rashtra Dharam)

* “The Sangh [RSS] is the Khalsa” (Ravani, Dec 1997)

“Guru Mati Das Sharma”???

Bhai Mati Das jee is a famous Shahid of the Sikhs who happily faced death by being sawn alive but did not forsake his faith. Bhatt Vehis record the history of this Shahid and it is known that Bhai Mati Das’s grandfather, Bhai Paraga jee was a Sikh of Guru Hargobind and also became a Shaheed in the battle of Ruhila.

Bhai Mati Das jee was of course then born into a Sikh family. The family had been Sikh since the time of Guru Ram Das. Bhai Sati Das was Bhai Sahib’s brother. Bhai Mati Das accompanied Guru Tegh Bahadur in his travels to Assam, Bengal and Bihar. When Guru Sahib was arrested and brought to Delhi, Bhai Mati Das was also brought with him. When offered the choice to forsake the Sikh faith and become a Muslim or to face death, Bhai Mati Das happily accepted the latter and only asked that he die while facing the Guru. Even when Bhai Sahib’s body had been cut in two, Japji Sahib could be heard from both halves.

Bhai Sati Das was also offered the choice to forsake Sikhi or death, and accepted death. He was wrapped in cotton and burnt alive.

Hindu fundamentalist organizations, in an effort to demean Guru Tegh Bahadur’s Shaheedee, have appropriated Bhai Mati Das and Bhai Sati Das as Hindu heros. Yearly events are held to commemorate their martyrdoms but they are presented as Hindus who died for their faith.

Bhai Hakeekat Singh jee was a young Sikh who is recorded in Bhatt Vehis as “Hakeekat Singh” but later was appropriated by Hindus as their own. Just like Bhai Hakeekat Singh is now referred to as Hakeekat Rai even by Sikhs, these groups hope Sikhs will also give up these two Sikh Shaheeds.

Sikhs and Raam

Another fallacy being promoted by the RSS is that the Sikh Gurus were from the family of Raam. That throughout history, Vishnu has supported the Sikhs. No Hindu text gives the family tree of Raam, and so there is no foundation for this claim. Giani Puran Singh gave this lie credence by repeating it publicly when he was Jathedar of the Akal Takhat. The only support this lie has is in a work by Kesar Singh Chhiber that has been corrupted. It claims the link between Raam and the Gurus but it also claims that Guru Gobind Singh worshipped Durga and took permission to keep his kesh from her. It also claims that the Sikh Gurus accepted Sanatan Hindu rites.

Baba Banda Singh Bahadur or Veer Banda Bairagi?

Veer Bandai Bairagi"

One of the RSS’s early targets has been Baba Banda Singh Bahadur. Baba Banda Singh is a Sikh hero who first created a Sikh Rule in Punjab and struck a Sikh coin. Baba Banda Singh is also a great Sikh martyr who sacrificed his life but did not compromise his faith.

The RSS has attempted to turn this great Sikh hero, into a Hindu Patriot. In the book “Veer Banda Bairagi” by Bhai Parmanand, Guru Gobind Singh was a defeated man who went to Nander in sadness. There he met the Hindu, Banda Bairagi who agreed to help Guru Sahib take revenge for the death of his sons. Banda Baigragi had with him Rajput warriors and a he gathered a Hindu army to punish the evil Wazir Khan.

Guru Gobind Singh giving "Veer Bairagi" arms

The new Hindu history claims that Banda Bairagi never became a Sikh and was an example of a pious Hindu helping his Sikh friend.

This story is of course utterly false. There was never any character named “Banda Bairagi”. Baba Banda Singh was known as Madho Das. He became a Sikh of Guru Gobind Singh by receiving Khanday Kee Pahul. This fact is confirmed by the oldest sources including Tavarikh-Iradat Khan (1714) and Panj Sau Sakhi (1734). The Bhatt Vehis mention how Guru Gobind Singh himself gave Baba Banda Singh the five kakaars and tied a keski on his head.

Baba Banda Singh’s own hukumnamas all make clear that he was a Sikh of the Guru and call upon “srbqR Akwl purK jIE dw Kwlsw”[.

The question arises, if “Banda Bairagi” had an army of Hindu warriors, why wouldn’t he have taken revenge for the Mughal excesses at Kanshi and Mathura? Why are none of the famous Hindus in his army recorded in history? Why were the Faujdars of conquered areas always Sikhs? Why do even his own family accounts (Bansavalinama) refer to him and his sons with the name “Singh”?

It is a blatant lie by the RSS to appropriate a Sikh hero and make him into a Hindu.

A 25-Point of Attack

The RSS has 25 points with which it hopes to attack the Sikh faith and lead to its eventual assimilation. All 25 points are very easily refuted but lack of education and knowledge coupled with the RSS’s organized attack make this a serious danger.

These points are already being incorporated into school text books and taught as real history. This skewed history is already taught in many areas.

1) Sikhs are an inseparable part of Hindu society.

2) If Hinduism is a tree, Sikhism is a fruit on that tree.

3) Gurbani is like the Ganga, it emerges from the Gangotri of the Vedas

4) The Khalsa was crated to protect Hinduism and Hindustan

5) Japji Sahib is a summary of the Gita

6) The Failure of the 1857 “War of Independence” [in reality an unorganized uprising by Poorbiya soldiers who 8 years earlier helped the British conquer Punjab] was defeated only by the Sikhs

7) Banda Singh Bahadur was really Veer Banda Bairagi

8) The Sikh Gurus worshipped the cow

9) Condemning Bhai Kanh Singh Nabha and Bhai Veer Singh

10) Use examples from Trumpp and other anti-Sikh western scholars

11) The Sikh Gurus used Vedic ceremonies

12) Guru Gobind Singh worshipped the Goddess Durga

13) Guru Sahib was from the family or Ram and his devotee

14) Sikhs are from Lav-Kush

15) Baba Ram Singh was the legitimate Guru of the Sikhs

16) Create posters which challenge Sikh principles but appear to be pro-Sikh

17) Insist on using the Bikrami calendar and share Hindu festivals

18) Call Bhai Hakeekat Singh, Hakeekat Rai and illustrate him as a clean-

shaven Hindu

19) Claim [with no historical basis] that Guru Gobind Singh sent his army to liberate Ram Janam Bhumi in Ayodhya from the Mughals

20) To create the Khalsa, Guru Gobind Singh seeked blessing from the gods and goddesses and used Hindu mantras. The Kakaars were also

blessings from the gods.

21) Equate ÅÆ with “OM”

22) Call Bhai Mati Das “Guru Mati Das Sharma”

23) To do parkash of Sree Guru Granth Sahib in Mandirs and put pictures of

Hindu Gods in Sikh Gurdwaras

24) Project Guru Gobind Singh as having taken a different ideology from Guru Nanak and to make him into a Patriotic Hero of India

Guru Gobind Singh with Rana Partap and other Hindu "Heros"

25) Make all of Sikh history take a Hindu tint.

Small Steps to Oblivion

The RSS recognizes that Hinduism is many hundreds of years old and it can slowly assimilate the Sikhs with time. By establishing links between Vishnu/Raam and the Gurus, they hope that Sikhs will see these Hindu gods as their own. With time, perhaps pictures of Raam and Vishnu will find their way into Gurdwaras. The RSS has commissioned paintings and posters that mix Hinduism and Sikhism and present Sikh figures receiving blessings from Hindu gods.

Idol worship, which is taboo in Sikhism is also being slowly introduced. Idols of Guru Gobind Singh and Guru Nanak can now be purchased from many stores. Some Nanaksar Thaats have also installed these idols. If idols of Sikh Gurus are acceptable, then perhaps with time Hindu idols can be accepted. Gurdwara Manikaran is a good example of what the RSS would like to see more common.

By putting Guru Granth Sahib in Hindu mandirs, simple Sikh villagers will begin to go to pay obeisance regularly. With Sikhs attending Hindu Mandirs, they will also offer worship to the Hindu gods and goddesses there. Sikh marriages may also begin to take place in Mandirs. Eventually, Hinduism in Punjab will be a mish/mash of Sikhism and Hinduism and the Sikhs will lose their distinct identity. Given a few generations, Guru Nanak will be an Avtar of Vishnu just like the Buddha has become and the Sikhs will be eliminated.

Today, Hindu Mandirs and idols again surround Sree Darbaar Sahib in Amritsar. In total, nine mandirs surround the Darbar Sahib complex, with some even in the galleria. When will these small mandirs be turned into massive buildings? When they are, what will the Sikhs have to say?

The Sikhs today are facing dark days. The Sikh Liberation Movement has been destroyed along with Sikh self-confidence. Hindu Fundamentalist organizations are making deep inroads into the community and still there is no reaction. We will be remembered as the first generation of Sikhs to have accepted defeat and subjugation from an adversary.

Will we wake up when it is too late?

[Guest]

taken from tapoban.org

Does it seem too unlikely that people would fall for this type of nonsense? Isn't it obvious that Sikhs are not Hindus?

You don't have to look too far to see some victims of this disgusting ideology. A lot of Youth are buying into this "Sanatan" Sikhi which is exactly what the RSS have in mind and want. We have a series of websites that promote this corrupt propoganda. Using a Sikh appearance, they are pushing Hinduism. The creative work below (out of the UK) shows how hard these bigots will try to make Sikhs seem like Hindus. It's time to say we will no longer tolerate this rubbish.

[mloco]

forget saying it, we have to stop it..but how

i wasnt aware it had spread out of India, its quite scary to think that its made it to the UK, where people are in general quite militant about Sikhi.

india needs to be flooded with pro truth propaganda.

[artistformalyknownasodhi]

u no wats fuinny every one says that "we cnt take this no more " n stuff, like that, but if u want summit go n get it.

[DSM]

Also see the article taken form sikh-history.com website

http://www.sikh-history.com/cgi-bin/Ultima...ic;f=1;t=001957

Please note:

"The SGPC, whose then secretary was also present, had agreed to provide Rs. 1 lakh for getting RSS literature printed."

RSS enlisting activists in rural Punjab

By Sarabjit Pandher

AMRITSAR, JUNE 14. The Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh (RSS) and its affiliate, Rashtriya Sikh Sangat, are trying to spread their activities in rural areas of the once terrorism-infested border districts of Punjab. After organising public meetings in gurdwaras and schools, the organisations have now begun a door-to-door and personal-level contact programme to enlist activists to spread their ``agenda''.

The RSS and its allies have during the past year been trying to impress on villagers in Gurdaspur and Amritsar districts that Sikhs are only a sword arm of the Hindu faith. Attempts were being made to ``educate'' the villagers to guard against attempts by those seeking to institutionalise the separate identity of the Sikhs, who have been dubbed ``Pakistan- sponsored terrorists''.

According to the latest edition of the Statistical Abstract of Punjab, its population comprises 62.9 per cent Sikhs, 34.5 per cent Hindus, 1.2 per cent Muslims and 1.1 per cent Christians. Among the Christian population, calculated at around 2.25 lakhs, more than 1.78 lakhs live in the rural areas. A majority of the Christians live in Gurdaspur district, where they form nearly seven per cent of the population. In Amritsar, the community constitutes 1.70 per cent of the population.

According to observers, the RSS and its affiliates began contacting people in these areas before the celebrations of the 300th anniversary of the Khalsa in April last. It is being pointed out that the RSS initiated an exercise in late 1996 and early 1997, when the Shiromani Akali Dal (SAD) and the BJP came to power after jointly contesting the elections for the Vidhan Sabha.

During the electioneering, the RSS cadre got an opportunity to identify influential persons in rural areas. Under the banner of the Rashtriya Sikh Sangat, the RSS approached these persons on the eve of Khalsa celebrations.

The RSS also organised a march from Patna, birthplace of Guru Gobind Singh, to Anandpur Sahib. Top Akali leaders and the then Jathedar of the Akal Takht, Giani Puran Singh, received the processionists.

In January and February last, Sikh Sangat activists began testing the waters by approaching influential Akali leaders in the border districts. They organised public meetings and even distributed literature criticising the preaching of Christianity and Islam.

At the meetings, the activists would dwell on ``history'' to draw out how ``Muslims'' had tormented the Sikh Gurus and their followers. The martyrdom of Guru Arjan Dev and Guru Tegh Bahadur would be highlighted.

A tour of Amritsar and Gurdaspur districts made it clear that the Sikh Sangat had conducted meetings in villages, which were close to the border. The organisation set up headquarters in Fatehgarh Churian town.

At Verka town, on the outskirts of Amritsar, it was found that the RSS and its allies had conducted tests in the schools to gauge the knowledge of the children on religion. After the tests in April 1999, a prize distribution function was held. Giani Puran Singh, retired Deputy Commissioner of Amritsar, Mr. Sarabjit Singh, and the former CBI Director, Mr. Joginder Singh, were the guests of honour.

The SGPC, whose then secretary was also present, had agreed to provide Rs. 1 lakh for getting RSS literature printed.

It is believed that the Sikh Sangat planned to filter ``potential'' students at the school level for further contacting them and their families. They also began compiling data on educated unemployed youth as well as those who had joined the Army, central security forces and the State police.

Experts in Punjab affairs are of the opinion that the RSS programme was aimed at co-opting wayward sections of the Sikh youth, which in the late 1970s and 1980s had provided recruits to various pro-Khalistan militant organisations.

People trying to diminish sikhi has been going on over 300 years , and I am glad to say sikhi will not diminish , in fact by the grace of Waheguru

its making us stronger , making us want to find the truth about sikhi , hopefully creating unity amongst the sikhs

[Amrikingh]

tutututut

[unbreakable]

..

[Bruce Lung]

What about One God and ecumenicism?

[tSingh]

Unbreakable,

You speak of ekta yet reject the existence of the samprdas! It sounds like your house needs setting in order first before you start taking the higher moral ground!

[SAadmin]

Unbreakable,

You speak of ekta yet reject the existence of the samprdas! It sounds like your house needs setting in order first before you start taking the higher moral ground!

LOL..so true.. ...

He is just thinking just like other people that sampardha's shows division but not "DIVERSITY".

[tSingh]

My view is different. Unity is not the issue here. I can't think of a group who actively play toward RSS propoganda!

To my mind, this is a very simple issue which is that some within the panth see the only way of tackling this issue is by cutting off their own feet.

A related example: A friend was explaining to me that on another forum one young person was utterly convinced from his own reading that Islam was an evil dirty faith. When the Sikh itihas naming Pir Budh Shah, Sri Hargobindpur masjid, Chisthi relationship, Muslim bhagats were named the same lad reorted 'well the Gurus must have been mistake then'!!!

A fairly similar mindset exists among ultra tat khalsa types. Their assumptions come before the Guru's mat and where a contradiction arises, they either ignore it or try to argue it away.

Take for example the issue of the avatar. Bhai Gurdas states that nirankar took form as Ram, Guru Arjun Dev describes sagun Krishna as Nirankar, Bhagat Namdev says Nirankar took form as narsingh, Guru Gobind Singh draws a link from lav and kush in Bachitar Natak, he also points to nirankar as Ram in Ram Avatar. Most Tat khalsas would accuse these same individuals of being RSS agents! All puratan Sants recognise the same from our beloved Baba Jagjit Singh through to Bhindranwale Sants to Nanaksar, etc.

The tat khalsa response seems to be to a) reject dasam bani when it suits them ignore those shabads which contradict them c) reduce the status of the Guru to a devotee d) attempt to destroy sants (who essentially represent the surviving aspects of pre-Tat Khalsa idelogy)

To me THIS is the dangerousness, it is FAR more dangerous than the RSS because they then become their very puppets twisting Gurmat. They are people dressed as the Guru's sons and daughters but who refuse to listen to their Guru and choose to distort him.

Any of the Vidvans in the panth from traditional training rather than a 2 year university course will recognise this. What seems like internal bickering is actually a 100 year long saga. I am convinced that the Tat Khalsa idealogy leaves the panth open to the RSS because denial of certain important aspects leaves the same open to distortion.

I mean no disrespect to any individual for I wish all acquire vivekbudhi.

[SAadmin]

great points tsingh..that's why i posted this topic here to get feedback!!

[Amrikingh]

I've seen a picture of Guru Nanak's sister tying him a rakhri with the Ek Ongkar on it

Guru Nanak rejected all these sort of Hindu rituals etc,

so thats another thing that confuses the youths

[Guest Sardar Moderator Singh]

Amrik Singh, do you refer to the Nanaksar pictures? Please verify.

[Dynamic_Banda]

tsingh abit harsh on the university massive there !!! lol but good points and I totally agree the issue isnt RSS or some external crap creating divisions in the panth, but the lack of the panth realising its unity in the charan of satguru.

The Akaal Ustat comes to mind where maharaj speaks of the bengalis and the farangis and the jathadharis and the nakid peoples all doing their own thing but infact all just worshiping akaal purakh.

Also alot of things which are social traditions are labelled as Hindu traditions, the fact is if those feet cutters truely wish to establish a belief system with no Hindu influence they would have to change alot more then just rakhri and posters. Everything from the use of the name singh, the sun shape on the hilt of swords the chand tora the vaat in mucha, the language they speak, the names for God, the way they cook, the things they cook. The clothes they wear, the naam they jap, the way they take their shoes off when getting into their house.. the list could go on.

Actually now im intrested in this idea of a no feet panth.. anyone else wanna sign on?

[karmjeet]

Amrik Singh, do you refer to the Nanaksar pictures? Please verify.

which nanalsar pictures ? as far as i kknow there is only one famous nanaksari picture and that is: the real picture of guru nanak

[Black Goddess]

Which nanaksar pictures? the only picture in nanaksar which is famous is the one of Guru Nanak Dev Jee, I have not heard of the others at all.

[Amrikingh]

Amrik Singh, do you refer to the Nanaksar pictures? Please verify.

ur well is saw it on a tape cover, Bibi Pritam Kaur

[Guest Sardar Moderator Singh]

Yes, the Guru Nanak Dev Ji picture is famous, however Nanaksar relatives of mine also practice Rakshah Bandan and point out that Bebe Nanaki did the same to Guru Nanak Dev Ji - I have seen contemporary pictures of this sort within Nanaksar households.

[Freed]

Living up to the name "Picture encyclopaedia of Sikhi" given to me by Pheena Bhai Sahib here is that Rakhi picture !!

[Black Goddess]

Those rakhi pictures have nothing to do with the Nanaksar Samparda and were not authenticated by any of the Nanaksar Mahapurush. I think that could be just coincidental or something people have picked up on the way.

[SAadmin]

black goddess is right.

[Toofan Singh Dangerous]

I am so sad and mad that I'm just speechless. Thanks for this website, atleast we are AWARE even more now.

[happy]

lol you guys are funny

just because people respect the so called 'hindu' devte does not mean that these very individuals are trying to convert every one to 'hinduism' you guys shoudl actually address what the term hindu actually means i think its just a case of you guys have a massive fear of being hinuised so to speak

come on guys we have links with the devte but its not saying that we are doing their pooja there are variuos examples of this within sikhi

and by teh way i thought GUR was in ISHER, GORAKH and PARBATI MAHI

or maybe akali nihang guru nanak dev ji is just sepaking crap........i seriuosly doubt it!!!!!!!

[happy]

hold your chadies together mr toofan.....akali nihang guru nanak dev jis mother and father wernt exactly japanese now were they???