extremist islam

[naunihal]

gurfateh,

wat are your feelings on the big issue of extremist islam, seems to be gettin worse, where will it end?

[Pheena]

Love and War/Hate. Thru War/Hate, one realizes the importence of Love. I just hope we realize the Importence of Love before there is no one left to realize. This Hate which is rooted in selfishness of the Ego is difficult to erradicate. Just as Love spreads quickly, as does Hate. They are equally potent, but their natures are different. In the end one takes the difficult route of pain and the other thru Love one realizes the unnecessariness of War/Hate.

So it will end when we begin to realize as a whole the importence of Love and Harmony Is this just a cheesy ideal or hopefull thinking? Perhaps. Perhaps it will take us another destructive war before we realize the importence of Love in being Human. As Man grows old he becomes more wiser, sadly this isn't the case of our human history. We have not become wiser, instead we have become more destructive, more hatefull, more vengefull, more so we have become Selfish. This Selfishness is the cause of these so called True Muslims acting as the police and spokesmen of Islam. Their justifications for their personal 'Jihad' against the infadels is justified thru using the koran's quotes being misguided, misinterpreted. Is this not the same Koran that was read by our Beloved Kabeer, our Beloved Baba Fareed ji?? So all of a sudden this Koran becomes the cause of this war?

It is much much difficult to understand war in which Religion is used as a justification. A war where God's word is used as a justification. But this isn't new, Hitler used Religion in his Wars, they are donig it now. Bush compared they war against terros as his Crusades. Religion does not promote War. It is the Human Mind void of Love which promes War and uses any means to justify it.

Was this what Muhammed Sahib wanted? or is this what they Want? They become the represents of Muhammed Sahib. Then both sides are blinded by their ignorance. There are those who begin to believe this must be the message of Islam, hence declaring Islam to be pro-war, pro-hate religion. Then there are those who are themselves muslims being caught in the crossfire of these Fanaticals who do not desire peace, but only destruction, fear, terror. Those that are acught in the crossfire are either feel obligated to stand with the Fantics or they themselves are uneducated and fall easily to the propaganda of those Fanatics.

Then there are the instigators who fed those same Fanatics whom they are fighting with. Their own selfcreated Terror which served them purpose at the time of creation has now turned on them.

There is are no Good Sides in this War of Terror. Only Innocent Deaths.

[Mystical]

I was having a though the other day. During Muhammed Sahib time, Muhammed had Holy wars with idol worshippers, with people who believed that they had a different God, with people who had more than One God.

And today its like there fighting by saying there Religion is a final message from God. Today we believe in One God which is the same for all.

But when would this War End?

Then I started thinking about what its ganna be like when its all over, the Wars I mean. How peaceful it'll be, no more Holy War!

[mloco]

its gonna get worse.

in the next jug anyone that takes the name of God will be killed.

its already more sociually acceptable to be atheist than religious.

[Guest]

in the next jug anyone that takes the name of God will be killed.

you mean after kulyug there is another yug worse than kalyug?

I thought it goes back to the cycle- satyug again :?

[BAZ]

Its getting worse. Even in converts your will find some of the worst extremists. Take for example the bloke in charge of Findsbury Park Mosque at the present moment in London. He is a white british born convert. Extremism is a disease and it is spreading. Extremism tries to justify itself with logic... these people actually think that what they think makes perfect sense. Cancerous diseases need to be cut out. The thing about religious extremism (especially in Islam I find) is that you will find it at many mosques so children are fed this poison in doses in Sunday school and by frequenting the mosque and being around extremist people. Im not saying all people in mosques are religious extremists but you will almost always find that element there. Muslims in the West especially have to do a house cleaning and sort this problem out as it is getting quite out of hand.

By the way I think it is more socially acceptable these days to be atheist than religious because so much evil is done by people in the name of religion. Atheism feeds on religious extremism and fanaticism.

[vijaydeep Singh]

Gurfateh

Well fundamenatalism is in all but we need to control that in our respective faiths.