Guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 tape 13 out of 81 Sidhas said, we do understand that one needs to stay in the will of god (in raza of vahiguroo) but sidhas asked Siri Guru Nanak Dev Ji, we know paratama cannot be approachable, can you please answer how big is paratma's(God) hakum? Guru Ji smiled and answered, if we know vahiguroo's hakum then we know the secret of hakum. When we cannot find God's end then how can we find secret of hakum? Then Guru Ji further narrated: Hakume Hovan Akaar Hukum Na Keeha Jaie || Whatever akhars (shapes) are there like- mountains, ocean, stars, being, animals are there..they are all in fear. Bhai Vich Sabh Akaar Hai Nirbhau Har Jio Soi || With ongkar resosance akar took birth then came along rajo, tamo, satogun, 5 subtle elements, 5 elements, 25 sub elements. With God's will(hakum) all these akars came into existence. Ongkar Aad Kathni Anad | Out of God- ongkar(resosance) was born. Ongkar's aad is Vahiguroo. Vahiguroo is aad roop. Hakume Hovan Jeea Hukam milai vadi-aa-ee || By his command, whole being came into existence, By his command, glory and greatness are obtained. Hukmee Utam Neech Hukam Likh Dukh Sukh Paa-ee-ah || By his command, great person becomes low and low becomes great, by his command we obtain pain and pleasure. If one follow his command then even sad person can obtain full happiness. Iknaa Hukme Bakhsees Ik Hukmee Sadaa Bhavaa-ee-ah || Ones are those who stay within hakum and get grace of naam from Vahiguroo and Ones are those by his command, wander in reincarnations. Hukmai Andar Sabh Ko Baahar Hukam Na Ko-Ay || Whatever is happening is happening within his hakum(will) and nothing is out of hakum of Vahiguroo. Gyani added further- By staying in hakum, one gets peace of mind but it's very hard to accept the hakum. Gyani ji gave example- Once there was a mahatama, he used to live in his hut. One time mother came with his son and requested saint to advise him since stealing has became his habit. Her son was very clever and responded to mahatma everything is in his will and left off. Few weeks passed away. One day her son got caught by police and getting beaten up by police..The same saint who met him was walking by.. he called saint's name and begged him to save his life. Saint replied, you remember you said everything is in hakum upon my questioning your actions now you are getting beaten by police.. is this is not hakum? If you stay in this hakum you will repent your actions and will be good person one day. Guru ji says, by staying within hakum we get attached with hakumi(God) until then we are outside of the hakum(will) we are de-attached with God. Nanak Hukmai Jay Bujhai Ta Ha-umai Kahai Na Ko-ay || With Satguru grace, if person understand God's will then nobody will speak words of ego. Kabir Na Ho Kiya Na Karange Na Kar Sakae Sirar Jo Kuch Kiya So Har Kiya Bhaoye Kabir Kabir || To be continued: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 tape 14 out of 81 In this tape, gyani talks about previous two pauris of japji sahib. How there is common misinterpertation done by people and in this tape gyani also talks about different levels interpertation of gurbani verses in these two pauriya's. Sochai Soch Na Houvi Jai Soche Lakh Var || One can cleanse their body, lakh times (100,000 times) still body cannot be fully cleansed for forever. Gyani said there are three types of jagaiso(learners)- 1. Utam Jagiaso- They can catch spiritual/gurbani discourses very easily with their bibek buddhi. 2. Madham Jagaiso- Ones that need more explanation through examples. 3. Kaanisht Jagaiso- Ones that go out and misinterpet gurbani and take everything out of context and start criticising gyani's, saints by their own standards/matt. Like for example- See today in the katha- person talked about how bodily cleaness does not come even after million of attempts...then what's point of taking shower and why keep suchum? There is no point. Gyani ji futher said, Guru ji recited this pankiti " Sochai Soch Na Houvi Jai Soche Lakh Var ||" by referring to those type of people who takes ishnan, keeping suchum(cleaness) concepts to an extreme. They don't meditate nor they do any self-service to humanity. They claim they have stayed above water for this many years, and took shower with this many gagars(buckets of water). This type of people taking things to extreme. Gyani said, suchum is needed however there is a need to be balance. People who goes to extreme and take care of suchmta all the time then if one ask them- how much patt or naam simran you have done? They have no answer. Gyani ji talks about Guru ji targetting such people in above pankiti, who goes to extreme in their suchmta like as if their whole life is based on suchmta(cleaniness)..having suchmta only in one's life is of no vail if person does not do naam simran. Things need to be balanced. Chupai Chup Na Hovaie , Jai Laya Liv tar || One even wants to stay queit(maun) in path of spirituality, one cannot acheive God. Above pankiti is also misinterpertated by some people. Some people who loves to chat all day question others- where in gurbani it says one should not chat?? They refer to above pankiti to justify their acts. Gyani ji added that one needs to speak but only when its needed. Being fully silent(mauni) is also not allowed in sikh dharam as well as chatting all day long is also discouraged in sikh dharam. Sikhs should avoid these extremes and do naam simran more. Bhukai Bhuk Na Utari Jai Banna Poriya Bar || Above pankiti is also misinterpeted people who loves to eat. Guru ji said, eat in moderation and be content. Guru gobind Singh Ji says in Sri Dasam Guru Granth: Re Man Aiso Kar Sanyasa Ban Se Sadan Sabh Kar Samjho Man Hi Mahaie Udasa | Saihes Sanayap Lakh Hoi Ta Ek Na Chalae Naal || Gyani explains, how people don't read books of wisdom by using the above quote to justify their lazy acts. Gyani said in this quote- guru ji said one needs to practise what they read otherwise one enters the circle of hypocrisy. Gyani added, that sanyap which are materialstic and superfical do not give any help at the end. However adopting Guru's sanyap(mat) helps this moral being. Hakum Hovan Akaar.. Gyani talks about - people who follow hakum becomes akaar(shape) of parmeshvar(Vahiguroo). Like for example- Once Guru Nanak Dev Ji said to sangat- Baba Budda Ji is my roop. Those people have understood hakum and they don't speak in ego. Once before Guru Nanak Dev Ji tested baba ji- and told him - baba ji it's amrit vela and baba ji replied no guru ji not yet , still night, this happened three times. Then Guru Nanak Dev Ji did this same test to Bhai Lehna Ji and told him- it's amrit vela and bhai lehna ji said- Sat Bachan. Bhai Lehna Ji followed Guru Ji full hakum then became 2nd Guru Nanak Dev Ji (Hakumi Akar) of parmesvar. Hukum Na Keeha Jaie | Gyani talks about - how satguru and bhramgyani's hakum secret cannot be know to the world because gurbani says- Bhramgyani ki gat Bhramgyani Janaie || Gyani further talks about how hard is to understand mahatama's(saints) bachan. We mortal people get confused over that bachan and talks about what kinda bachan is that? Because we judge them by our standards. Gyani also talks about that's how bhramgyanis nature not many can understand. Gyani shares an sakhi of mahapursh telling it's jagiaso to bow down to person like him by saying- here is rab, go matha taik to him. Jagaiso said, this cannot be rab(god). Mahapursh in their masti said, you missed an golden chance to meet God because for few moments..god himself came.. if you have followed the hakum you could have gotten the grace. Hakum Hovan Jeea Hukam milai vadi-aa-ee || An bhramgyani that follows hakum, whatever jee jant are there- being, animals, insects, dieties are controlled by his hakum. Gyani ji said the only difference between bhramgyani and god is only like Pot of water floating on a ocean(God). There is water in the pot and outside the pot. Only difference is samundar(ocean) does not have akar(shape) but pot(shape) can be seen. Once pot is broken (when bhramgyani leaves the body), water which was inside the pot merges with water outside and all around pot. Bhramgyani resides in Vahiguroo to that extent. Example- Baba Budda Ji at his end time before leaving his body merged with 6th master- Guru Hargobind Sahib that baba budda ji lost his existence and merge with Nirankari Jot. When mere mortal being like us stays in hakum of satguru, bhramgyani like- Nanak bhramgyani aap parmeshvar || then that person gets vaadiya as pankti talks about: Hukam milai vadi-aa-ee || Gyani talks about: we judge bhramgyani by body, but we don't look beyond body ie- sumandar anand da sagar inside (ocean of god's wisdom inside). Hukmee Utam Neech Hukam Likh Dukh Sukh Paa-ee-ah || Satguru, bhramgyani who follows Vahiguroo hakum, mere mortal like us who follow their hakum can become utam(higher) from neech(lower worms). Gyani further give example of this duplicate sikh name- kher khanawala sikh. He usually ate kheer for his living at gurdwara. He ate kheer for 6 months in gurdwara. Some gursikhs came up to him said - bhai sahib ji, you should also do some seva as well, over abusing langar is not good. This person said- i don't follow you guys, I follow only Guru Angad Dev Ji just like how these days people say- we only beleive in siri guru granth sahib..and we don't beleive in sant mahapursh. This kher khanwala sikh stayed in gurdwara for 6 months and ate loads of kheer. Once he came across with Sri Guru Angad Dev Ji. When he became aware of guru ji. He started showing fake nirmata(humility) and start doing drama. Guru Ji said- who is this person? Gursikhs narrated the whole story. He is been living here for 6 months..just ate kheer and slept that was his daily routine ..we advised him to do seva as well but he replied, i only have faith in guru angad dev ji and will follow his bachan. Guru Ji replied and said, what's there to follow my bachan now?. Your life has only 8 pahirs(24 hrs)after that you will die. This person became very worrisome and start begging guru ji for his well being. Guru Ji gave him hakum you want your well being..you should go to jungle- gather some woods, lit them with fire, and jump on fire..That's only way. This person went running around in jungle and gathered woods and lit an fire..start running around in circle of woods which were on fire and keep blaming gursikhs for his own stupidity. Then all of sudden, this theif came with lots of diamonds, jewelleries and asked him why you running in circles around the fire. He narrated the whole story to theif, theif said give me this bachan because i got people after me. An theif gave him all the treasure he stoled and was about to jump on fire and said take my treasure, i have committed enough sins i ll jump on fire.. i ll get grace from guru ji..this theif jumped on fire but fire went off. This theif was very touched by this incident and straight to khardhu sahib and went to guru ji while this kher khan wala sikh got caught by kingdom was given hang until death punishment. He died right 24 hours(8 pahir). This theif went to Guru ji and Guru ji said- you are dhan you followed my bachan. Guru ji hugged this theif and told him you have my grace but do 21 japji sahib as your nitneem. Guru Angad Dev ji gave him bhramgyan because he followed guru ji bachan. This theif became saint and did seva of parchar in Gurughar. Hukam Likh Dukh Sukh Paa-ee-ah. Person who had pain in his/her karam, by following hakum of satguru, bhramgyani one can attained sukh (peace). Jai Koi Bachan Kamvaie Santan Ka So Gurparsadi Teraie || By following bachan of bhramgyani mahapursh, with grace of true guru can across the wordly ocean. To be continued: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kam1825 Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 keep up the great seva neo. this is going to be helpful to alot of the sangat 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 keep up the great seva neo. this is going to be helpful to alot of the sangat Thanks veer ji..need you gurmukhs spiritual support and encouragement Vahiguroo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Tape 15 out of 81 Iknaa Hukmee Bakhsees Bhramgyanis stays within hakum. They within hakum give grace to people of bhram vidiya, naam di dat. Gyani Ji gave example of bhramgyani mahatama encounter with dacoit ( balmik). Mahatama's asked him, all these stealing and killing other people you seem to enjoy as your hobby. Does these things will help your par-lok (other world after death)? He went numb, and said I don't know. He tied mahatama with a rope and told him that i ll go ask my family this question. He went up to his father and asked, would you help me in pro-lok? His father told him, i ll go before you and then he asked his mother- she said no. Then he asked his wife and got the same answer. Wife replied, nobody told you to steal and kill people to make a living. When he got nobody helping him. He went in depression and asked himself- if no one is willing to help me that why i m killing people like this? Then he went back to mahatama's and told him- I will not do such things. Mahatama asked him why? He said- no one will help me in par-lok. Mahatama told him you shouldn't commit these sins for people who is not willing to help you in parlok. He said - Satbachan and then asked- what should i do ? Mahatama's gave him reverse mantar of ram- Mara Mara to meditate. Then he meditate for soo many years and he got bhramgyan. He then became quite popularly known as "Rishi Balmik" who predicted ramayan and wrote ramayan 10,000 years earlier than ramayan actual happened. Ik Hukmee Sadaa Bhavaa-ee-ah || Ones are those who were in sangat of hakumee(satguru, bhramgyani) but couldn't follow the bachans. Gyani ji gives example from mulai sakhi - Siri Guru Nanak Dev Nirankar went to mullai's pind to ask for his well being. Mullai didn't want to meet Guru Ji so he told his family to lie and tell guru ji i m not home. Guru Ji went once and they said he is not home then he send bhai mardana to enquire about him. Bhai mardan went twice and he got respond - mullai he is gone. Guru Ji said, ok if he is gone then he is gone. Snake came where mullai was hiding and bite him. He died instantly. Then his family took mullai body to Siri Guru Nanak Dev Ji and requested guru ji please forgive him and Guru Ji said- now he will be forgiven in 10th form. Gyani Ji gives another example of raja janak encounter with tapasvi who meditate on water. Raja Janak told him, he should do leave doing hard penances and adapt prema bhakti marg. This tapasavi, i promised God that i ll do this for 12 years. Raja Janak told him i ll give you fruit for 12 years of bhagti on water right now. This tapasavi didn't follow hakum and raja janak sighed and said- i guess you like water soo much, you will be crocodile for next thousands of thousands of years..dwapar yug will pass by and Siri Guru Nanak dev ji will give you mukhti in kalyug. One day when siri guru nanak dev ji did udasi in lanka. He was walking on water. Bhai mardana asked him, what you walking on Guru ji? Guru ji, it's 100 mile long mach(crocodile). When Guru Maharaj went close to his face. With Guru Maharaj blessing this mach start speaking and said- please do kirpa on me, i have been mach since treta yug. Guru Maharaj told him , don't worry your life span is only 8 pahir - 24 hours. I ll sit on you and do jaap(meditate), you should keep repeating after me. This crocodile did exactly what Guru Maharaj said and finally he realised his path and went straight to sach khand. Hukmai Andar Sabh Ko Within hakum of Satguru, bhramgyani mahapursh everyone lives. Gyani further gave example of Sant baba Sunder Singh Ji bhindranwale who were doing katha for 4 hours steady and no one moved. Upon enquiring how come sangat didnt move for 4 hours. He said in masti, after bhramgyan this whole parkriti(creation) is in bhramgyani's hand. Baahar Hukam Na Ko-Ay || No one is outside satguru's, bhramgyanis hakum. Gyani explains: how our senses are not in our control? However bhramgyani has controlled over his/her senses and others. Nanak Hukmai Jay Bujhai Person who understands hakum of satguru, bhramgyani. Person who can understand hakum- Nanak bhramgyani aap parmeshvar || Ta Ha-umai Kahai Na Ko-ay || Then person never talks in ego. To be continued: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 tape 16 out of 81: Siri Guru Nanak Dev Ji recited: gaavai ko taan hovai kisai taan || Who can sing glory of Vahiguroo?? gaavai ko daat jaanai neesaan || Who can sing on the gifts god gives? who can pinpoint how many gifts/graces one get from Vahiguroo? gaavai ko gun vadi-aa-ee-aa chaar || Who can sing his beautiful virtues of him? Sidhas asked, if vidvans(scholars) were fully succesfull to sing his virtues? Guru Ji replied, gaavai ko vidi-aa vikham veechaar || who can do vichar through- difficult/deep knowledge, upanishads, all granths on vahiguroo? Gyani ji shares an sakhi of mahapursh- Sant gyani gurbachan singh khalsa bhindranwale. How he came across with an skull once. Sant ji kept looking at the skull then he smiled and walked off. After sevaks enquiry why baba ji smiled. Sant ji told them, this skull once was- billionaire now his skull is in garbage. Gyani said that even with that vidya of reading previous janams one cannot do veechar of him. gaavai ko saaj karay tan khayh || Who can sing about how Vahiguroo made(saaj) and destroy the body ? gaavai ko jee-a lai fir dayh || Who can sing his glory how he gives body to an soul then takes it back then again gives being to an soul? Guru ji said- when we die, we have no clue where we going to go. But Vahiguroo knows that where to send for next birth Gyani ji said in ahankar(ego) nobody can sing his glory but however in nirmata (humility), whatever capacity one gets, one sings about him. gaavai ko jaapai disai door || Who can sing vahiguroo who seem very far from knowledge, sight senses? gaavai ko vaykhai haadraa hadoor || Who can sing vahiguroo glory who looks at everybody and present every where yet we cannot see vahiguroo? kathnaa kathee na aavai tot || Scholars have tried talking about him but his end never comes. He is endless. Then sidhas asked if bhrama(creator), vishnu(perserver), shiv ji (destroyer) can talk about him and find his end? Guru Ji replied: kath kath kathee kotee kot kot || Million of Millions of scholars,bhrama, vishnu, shiv talked about him million of years and passed away. They couldn't find his end. Sidhas asked: Did someone atleast sing his praises? Guru ji replied, with humility.. everyone can sings his praises however nobody can sing his praises by thinking one day i ll find his end in ego. Guru ji gave them example- how hans can fly 4 million km or how certain fish can travel soo long in the ocean ? But none of them can found end of sky or in ocean. They can feel pleasure by travelling. Just like that- Being can sing his praises and get bliss/peace of mind in humility but never cannot find his end. To be continued: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 7, 2005 Report Share Posted October 7, 2005 tape 17 out of 81: In this tape, gyani ji talks about another different way of interpertating pauri according to each state of mind. Guru Ji further recited: gaavai ko daat jaanai neesaan || Some sing his glory by showing people- Vahiguroo gave me this gift. gaavai ko gun vadi-aa-ee-aa chaar || Some sing of His Glorious Virtues, Greatness and Beauty gaavai ko vidi-aa vikham veechaar || Some sing of knowledge obtained of Him, through difficult philosophical studies. gaavai ko saaj karay tan khayh || Some sing that He fashions the body, and then reduces it to dust and then again gives body to an soul and then reduce it to dust. gaavai ko jee-a lai fir dayh || Some sing that He takes life away, and then again restores it. gaavai ko jaapai disai door || Some sing that He seems so very far away. gaavai ko vaykhai haadraa hadoor || Some sing as if He watches over us, face to face, ever-present. kathnaa kathee na aavai tot || There is no shortage of his glory those who preach and teach. kath kath kathee kotee kot kot || So many million of millions of people had talked about him, are talking about him, always will talk about him. Gyani ji goes back to previous verse: gaavai ko taan hovai kisai taan || Some sing to gain strengh from vahiguroo then they get that strength in return. Gyani gave example - How in history bachitar singh came to siri guru gobind singh ji to bless him with strenght to fight an drunk elephant. Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji gave him required "bhal" (strenght) to fight the elephant. Also Gyani ji gave an example of sant kartar singh ji bhindranwale. How he used to 14 katha's per day and asked Vahiguroo to bless him with that seva. He used to visit each village and finish all 14 katha's in one day. gaavai ko daat jaanai neesaan || Some sing to get daat of salvation, to see god in human form. Gyani share sakhis of siri guru gobind singh ji. How he was playing with kids when he was 4 years ago. There was pandit named shiv dutt praying to god in his mind that if siri guru gobind singh was avtar of akaal purkh then give me your darshan in form of siri ram chandar ji. Then voice came to pandit, said- open your eyes shiv dutt, here i am - when he opened the eyes- he saw siri ram chandar ji. He became soo happy that he bow down to his feet and then when he got up- it was siri guru gobind singh ji maharaj asking- pandit shiv dutt ji - did you get your darshan? Pandit shiv dutt ji was nihaaaaaaal hiii nihaaaaaaaaaaal. gaavai ko gun vadi-aa-ee-aa chaar || Some sing to get virtues in them and then they get virtues in return from Akaal Purkh. Gyani Ji gives modern day of examples- Bhai Sobha Singh (famous artist) was given virtues by akaal purkh who made such a heart-throbbing pictures of sri guru gobind singh ji. Another example- Bhai Gopala Singh was given virtue to sing kirtan. When he did kirtan at darbar sahib, whole parkarma was full with sangat. gaavai ko vidi-aa vikham veechaar || Some sing to get difficult vidya's(knowledge) ie- six types of vidya. Gyani ji gives example from sakhi how dasam patsah blessed pandit with full astrology vidya upon pandit ji requesting. Then after many years, Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji was on his horse going to hazoor sahib and decided to stop at pandit ji house when siri guru gobind singh ji saw pandit ji- pandit ji still being old remember sri guru gobind singh ji maharaj and bow down to Guru Ji's charan. Guru ji told him, i was going by and thought i dropped by. Guru ji said to pandit let's see your jotish (astrology knowledge) and asked him- I am about to go meet auranzeb...will he meet me? Pandit with his vidya given by dasam patsah observed that and said- O King, this person will pass away before meeting you, what's a point of meeting him? Guru ji asked why? . He replied saying he is not meant to meet you, that his karam. If he meets you then all his sins will be destoryed but his karams are bad. Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji, yes that's way its going to be.. i just drop by to see him how much parkash you have by your vidya. To be continued: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 tape 18 out of 81: gaavai ko saaj karay tan khayh gaavai ko jee-a lai fir dayh. Gyani ji shares sakhi of bhai taru singh ji who was in samadhi for 22 days even after his skull was removed. One asked, how come you are surviving like this? He replied, I ll take these oppressors with me. Above sakhi reflects the above verse. Gurmukh (guru oreintated person) being in this body, consider this body as ash/mud. Gyani talks about how there are different types of people come to gurdwara- one who seeks materialstic and superfical things , one are those who ask for mukhti(salvation), ones are those who ask for naam di dat(intiation of naam), and then ones are those who only seek for his love ie- Raj Na Chaho Mukht Na Chaho Man Preet Charan Kamalaraie || Then there are 2 types of jagiaso(learners) 1. Saihkhami 2. Nishkhami 1. Saihkhami - Who does patt/prayer for wordly things. 2. Nishkhami - Who does meditation/patt/seva without any expectations or desires. Gyani ji talks about how bani can be used by people with different state of mind. From Nishkhami jagiaso state. They interpret gaavai ko saaj karay tan khayh as: Some Sing to get grace of bhramgyan and then reduce the body to dust. Then Gyani Ji explain how people of certain state of mind sing his glory. Gyani also gives an example to back it up from history. gaavai ko jee-a lai fir dayh. Some sing to get siddhi(power) so that atma can be taken out, put in different body. There was this king name amaro who left the body. Gorakhnath Guru- Machinder Nath who had that power of taking his atma(soul) out, putting it in any body he wish. Machinder came to know that king passed away. He start having evil thoughts. He left his body to enter king- amaro's body. Once he got himself into amaro's body. People who were happy to see their king back alive. Machinder by using amaro body start enjoying his kingdom- vishey bhog anand (sexual intercourses with mistress in the kingdom that amaro orginally had and also having different varities of food every day, getting full treatment of kings). One day, when gorak nath came across with val kahndaie who was also an sidh. Gorakh nath wanted to discuss something with Val Kahndaie. Val kahndaie said, gorakh nath we should discusss later but first you should save your Guru. Do you have any idea what is he trying to do lately? He said, No. Val Kahndaie said, he is using dead king's body with his occult power to enjoy vishey bhog anand..such a low act, is this what sidhas suppose to do ? If he just wanted to have taste vishey bhog anand then he should have gotten married. Gorakh nath realized this and wanted to somehow save his Guru from all this. But mashinder nath was one step forward, he anounced by using king amaro body that there shouldn't be yogi allowed in my kingdom. Gorakhnath then decided to learn an kala ( musical jori). After learning that art, he tied peace of cloth around his head and went near his kingdom and start playing this musical art. Within in that musical art he created a tune which sounded like- jag machindera gorak aie. When Mashinder heard this tune, machinder left body of amaro king, ran away and his body fell on the floor. Then Gorakh nath went right after him and said- I am really ashamed of your act. Being an such a great yogi, you start abusing occult powers and start using someone's else body for your own gratification. Gorakh nath took machinder nath to Sri Guru nanak dev Ji and narrated the whole story to Guru Ji. Guru Ji said, i have already said- Ridh Sidh Avar Saad||, these powers one cannot give taste of naam... this is trap of maya(illusion). Then Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji told bhai mardana to pick up rabab sang following line to give machindera an right guidance: Sun Machindera Nanak Bhole Vas Ghat Panch Karae Na Dole || (Ramkali Mahala 1) Gyani ji says: some ask for this kinda powers. Vahiguroo gives all. However such thing have reverse effect on people's karam. gaavai ko jaapai disai door. Some sing to get distance between atma and paratama to disappear. Gyani ji saying- if one sing that above panthikiti with that bhavna(desire) then one enters realm of nishkhamta. Niskhami person always ask to Vahiguroo that please may my soul merge with you. Gyani ji further put an emphasis how satnaam vahiguroo is one but how there are different bhavna's(desires) in people who recite satnaam vahiguroo..one recites to desire for materialstic blessing, some recites to get occult powers but then there are some who recites to merge with paratama. Satnaam Vahiguroo is One, however people recite it in different levels of bhavna(desire). gaavai ko vaykhai haadraa hadoor. Some sing his glory to get darshan of him closely(haadra hadooor). Gyani ji gave example of bhagat namdev ji who got darshan of vahiguroo 72 times because he did bhagti/recitted god's name with that bhavna(desire/wish). Vahiguroo gives gift to all - rajo, tamo, satogunis. kathnaa kathee na aavai tot. If one were to discuss about him, there is no end to it. One will be probably pass away keep discussing about him but there will be no end. kath kath kathee kotee kot kot. Millions of people in back in million and million of millions of year have tried to discuss about him with million of other tricks but no one could find vahiguroo's end nor anyone ever will. Then Guru Ji recited: daydaa day laiday thak paahi. Akaal Purkh kept giving to saihkhami person who gets tired or either pass away in course of receiving the gifts from akaal purkh. Note- Saihkhami person -person who recites on god to get materialstic things. jugaa jugantar khaahee khaahi. Such saihkhami person keeps taking birth to receive such gifts from akaal purkh because they pass away in desire of materialstic things then they born again. To be Continued: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 tape 19 out of 81 Gyani Ji talks about how there are some people who first started off with asking the materialistic things however gradually they rise themselves above from that and enter state of nishkhamta(desire for nothing but naam from vahiguroo) daydaa day laiday thak paahi. Vahiguroo in form of satguru gives such people spiritual discourse, gurmantar, mool mantar, mala mantar, amrit intiation and maryada. After receiving such blessing, then their coming and going from this world gets fatigued and there is no more birth and death for them. They become Immortal. jugaa jugantar khaahee khaahi. Such people eat desires caused by thoughts, imagination. At the end there are no more worldly desires but only desire to meditation on naam and through out the juga, jugas they acculmate naam. Gyani ji added jug in this context of pankiti means- difference between isher and jev atma gets destroyed through bhagti. Tuhi Mohi Mohi Tuhi Antar Kaisa || You is me, me is you, there is no difference Bhagat ravidas says: Jab Hum Houtaie Tabh Tu Nahi, Ab Tuhi Mein Nahi || When my ego was there you weren't there, now you are there and my ego is gone. Then what do they eat? Don't they have to eat food to get nourishment? Guru ji says: Thithai uvavh Na Bhuk Hai, Mann Charya Dasamaie Akash || Gyani Ji gives sakhi of Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji not used to eat for 6 months steady. Bhai Mardana used to ask Guru Ji. Guru Ji - What have you eaten? don't you get hungry? Guru smiled, and said - Naam da Udhar. All hunger, thrist is gone once you have naam simran running inside you all the time. jugaa jugantar khaahee khaahi. So in conculsion above pantkiti can be interperted via three state of mind which exist in this world. Vishey anand: There are sansari(worldly people) who does meditation to get materialstic things and upon getting, their desires keeps increasing which cause them take birth from jugs(4 ages through out) and they eat fullfillment of their desires (vishey/bhoga anand) and get nourishment from that. Yoga Anand: Then there are yogis who sit in meditation for jugas (4 jugs/ages), they only eat yoga anand and get nourishment from that. Then higher state is Bhrama Anand: In this state bhagats of vahiguroo sit in meditation for jugaas (4 jugs), they only eat bhrama anand (supreme bliss) and get nourishment from that. Gursikhs then asked Guru Ji, if bhagats in higher state do anything else? Then Guru Ji replied, hukmee hukam chalaa-ay raahu. Satguru, bhramgyanis, Bhagats under his command lead their lifes and also inspire people to walk on this path by giving spiritual discourses via patt, gurbani, amrit datt, maryada naanak vigsai vayparvaahu. Vahiguroo who is carefree gets more blossomed by looking at his bhagat, how within hakum they lead their lifes and inspire others to do the same. Looking at the above tuk from worldy standpoint: Vahiguroo who is carefree gets happy by looking at the tamasha(drama) of worldly people who comes to this earth by blessing of vahiguroo but have forgotten vahiguroo, instead they claim in ego- i have done something, i have done this and i have done that, it's all because of me, me, me. Gyani talks about how Guru ji's talks about three types of jaiagaso- sansari(fully worldly, atheist type), saihkhami(remember god to get something), nishkhami ( meditate on god's name with no desires) in above pauri. Gyani ji talks about- how pir of bhagdadh questioned Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji comment on how they are million of millions of realms (akash and patal). Pir said, mohammad sahib said there are only 7 realms. Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji said, it's simple.. one who has seen million of millions realm has narrated there are million of millions of realms and one who has seen 7 realms has narrated there are seven realms. Pir replied, i don't beleive in this. Guru Ji showed his son million of millions of realms.. his son was shocked and assured his father that- Guru ji is right, there are million of millions realms. saachaa saahib saach naa-ay bhaakhi-aa bhaa-o apaar. Sachaa refers to truth who is vahiguroo exist in four kal (aad/ever lasting age, jugud/past, hai bhi/present, hosi bhi/future). Sahib refers to vahiguroo in sargun form(human form) after when god transcedents its attributes into creation. saach naa-ay means vahiguroo names is also truth. bhaakhi-aa bhaa-o apaar means even though vahiguroo has soo many languages or types of languages Vahiguroo can undestand yet one can only please him by one language which is language of love. Gyani ji shares this sakhi of ramanand ji who was guru of bhagat kabir ji. There was one person who used to follow ramanand ji get spiritual discourse from him. One morning, when ramanand ji was going to take shower, this person fell on his feet asked ramanand ji please bless me with naam of vahiguroo. Ramamand ji said, is this time to give naam? There is time for such discourses. He insisted and said, this is only time i can get to talk to you then there are always people around you. Ramamand ji, in bit of anger said- Bhaja Luta Maranga means run away i ll hit you with iron vessel. This person was extremely innocent and ran away and consider this phrase by ramanand ji as a mantar. He started meditating on phrase with lot of prem(love) and sharda(faith) he had already. When he became fully enlightened, his popularity start increasing and he met ramanand ji and he asked - where did you get the mantar? He said, when i met you and you spoke- Bhaja Luta Maranga .. i have meditated on this. Ramananda ji start laughing and said that wasnt mantar. He replied, that's what i meditated upon considering that was mantar. Gyani Ji re-inforces that it's not mantar which matters when it comes to love. It's only love language that can please god. Jin Prem Kio Tin Hi Prab Paio || To be continued: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 tape 20 out of 81: aakhahi mangahi dayhi dayhi daat karay daataar. Gyani Ji first talks about saihkhami people, from their standpoint- how they keeping asking for materialstic gifts from god and they get whatever they wish for. Then Gyani ji talks about nishkami people, from their standpoint how they ask for sarvan(listening spiritual sermons) then following/acting upon on it. Vahiguroo gives them all gyans(knowledge) they ask for- Sarvan gyan, manan gyan, nidhasan gyan, Bhramgyan. With these gyans one is able to destroy three types of doubts- 1. Parman Gat Sansa 2. Parmaigat Sansa 3. Viparjaie Sansa. These doubts are vanished by Sarvan gyan(knowledge gained by listening), manan gyan(knowledge which is followed in one's daily life), nidhasan gyan (knowledge which is meditated upon) and then one gets to final stage bhramgyan (knowledge of bhram). fayr ke agai rakhee-ai jit disai darbaar. What gift can be presented in his darbar so that he can be pleased? muhou ke bolan bolee-ai jit sun Dharay pi-aar. What words can be spoken infront of his darbar that he start loving? Guru Ji then replied to sidhas questions above- amrit vaylaa sach naa-o vadi-aa-ee veechaar. amrit vela means moment is free from death if we look at the deeper meaning of amrit vela. By sitting in that moment, one should recite akaal purkh's true name. Guru ji talks about how they are different types of amrit vela. Guru ji talks about how one amrit vela starts from 12 am - 4 am, how human life which is given to us is also consider as amrit vela, how young age of this being is also consider as amrit vela. Ram Japo Ji Aisaie Aisaie Dharu parlhad Japio har Jasaie ||. When children is younger, his/her mind is fully cleansed. That's why that age is also consider as amrit vela. Then gyani ji talks about how javani(age before 45) time span is also considered as amrit vela because during that age, one's mind or body does not fatigued when meditating on naam or doing self-service(seva) for long hours. Gyani ji says, if one passes that age time span too without meditating on naam simran. Then one can also meditate in older age where all the worldy responsiblities are taken care of and if one starts meditating at that age, that is also consider amrit vela. Gyani Ji talks about how amrit vela can be also considered moment being in sat sangat & sadh sangat. Out of 24 hours, if one can meditate 24 hours then all that 24 hours becomes his/her amrit vela. Gyani ji- one has to look at deeper meanings of amrit vela instead of just certain time span because from 12 am - 4 am if one watches movies or go to club, one obviously will NOT get fruit of amrit vela. Amritvela is moment of remembrance of true naam of vahiguroo, talking about(doing veechar) about his glory. Gyani ji talks about how mind gets better concentration when one does veechar(discuss)about god and his glory. karmee aavai kaprhaa nadree mokh du-aar. When jev atma recites name in amrit vela just to get certain tasks done that is consider as saihkhami person. When Saihkhami person does karm(karmee) then he gets kapra(body)in reincarnations but there at times even saihkhami person gets nadar (grace) but not fully mukht even getting his grace because of his habit of having desires(vashnava) he takes births and dies, takes birth and dies, takes birth and dies and get into this vicious cycle coming and going. One can only go to sachkhand without desires. Then at one time saihkhami sikh gets birth where he/she does not have any desire left and get full nadar(full grace) with that grace - mokh du-aar (this being gets free from all nine doors in the body) Raj Na Chaho Mukht Nah Chaho Man Preet Charan Kamalarae || Gyani ji talks about sakhi of maharaja patiala. How he has done soo much bhakti in his previous lifes with very well known sikh saints. They were sadhu in their previous life but at the end, his mind went astray and start wishing for kingdom with beautiful queens in them. With that bad sankalp(thought) he was given life of king who was famously known as maharaja patiala. Even then lot of famous sikh mahatama's respected him because they used to do bhagti with him. karmee aavai kaprhaa Gyani Ji talks about the same pankiti but describing naishkami sikh state. Gyani Ji talks about how third guru did 12 years of niskham seva of Siri Guru Angad Dev Ji. Person who has done nishkham seva gets kaprha of prem. Prem Patola Thisaie Ditta Thakuhn Ku Pat Meri, Danna Binna Saie Maddia Nanak Sar Na Janna teri || nadree mokh du-aar. When full nadar(full grace) falls on naiskhami person with that grace - mokh du-aar (this being gets free from nine doors and gets full jevan mukht state). Saihkhami person when happens to get nadar in future life times they only can only go to sachkhand by themselves but when nishkhami person gets nadar they taste state of jevan mukhti (liberated while alive) and they do take along millions and millions of people. naanak ayvai jaanee-ai sabh aapay sachiaar. Then one comes to know that akaal purkh is appaie app sachiar - vahiguroo himself is true and sab vaiyapakh ( resides inside and outside out of creation). To be continued: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 tape 21 out of 81: Sidhas asked Siri Guru Nanak Dev Ji please tell us 1. If God is nadi aulad(being born out of resosance of shabad) or bindi aulad( being born out of women's womb)? Guru ji replied- thaapi-aa na jaa-ay God cannot get thap hence thaapi-aa na jaa-ay. Like in the world, teacher gives gaddi thap(diploma of teachings) to the students then that students becomes teacher and he/she gives teachings to other students to make them(thapia) teachers too. Guru ji replied: keetaa na ho-ay. God does not take birth. Hence, keetaa na ho-ay (no one can create him through process beings get created). Sidhas then asked Guru Ji, 2. If God is patantar(binded) or suatantar(free)? Guru Ji replied: aapay aap God is Karaj roop, Nirgun Roop, Sargun Roop, Karan Roop. God exist in everything outside and inside. God does not need to take ideas from others, God does not need to take anything from anybody. That's why God is free. Hence, aapay aap Then Sidhas asked: 3. If God is Maya Kalakh(unpure) or shud(pure)? Guru Ji replied: niranjan so-ay. Anjan means sorma. Sorma which is used to put in the eyes back in the times. It's of color - black. Maya is black. Vahiguroo is free from maya kalakh. Thus, niranjan so-ay Kam na Krodh na Na Lob Na Moh Na Rog Na Soj Na Bhog Na Bhai Hai || Guru Ji further said: jin sayvi-aa tin paa-i-aa maan. People who served him, get honor from him. One who have served him by serving his creation and meditating on his name, they get full honor in his court. naanak gaavee-ai gunee niDhaan. Nanak says, one should sing treasure of virtues of him. If one sing his virtues then some of the attributes/virtue of him can also come in this being. Sidhas asked, by only singing his virtues can one be in his court? Guru Ji replied: Not only by singing but gyan comes in stages - sarvan (listening), mannan(acknowledging and following it), nidhasan(acting upon it) Guru ji narrated: gaavee-ai sunee-ai man rakhee-ai bhaa-o. Sing with tongue by love, and listen with love, and let your mind be filled with love. When one does that then one gets blessed with: dukh parhar sukh ghar lai jaa-ay. All the sorrowness will be all vanished, one takes infinite happiness(atamik anand) with them. Gyani ji talks about how one needs to be fully merged with listening gurbani with love, singing gurbani with love, following gurbani with love just like how kid gets fully merged when he is watching cartoon despite of someone calling him. Kid's fully merged with watching tv. Gyani ji gives another sakhi when Bhai Lehna Ji was doing seva of Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji. Suddenly, there was cut and bruise appeared on Guru Ji's charan. Bhai Lehna Ji humbly asked- what happened to your feet Guru Ji? Guru Ji replied- one sikh is reciting kirtan sohila patt while doing farming, he is soo merged in gurbani that he is not aware of thorns cutting him. I am taking all his pain on myself and he is not feeling it. Because I am bani roop. Sidhas asked, what should we sing, from via who should we sing? Guru Ji replied: gurmukh naadaN Gyani ji talks about how there are three meanings of gurmukh? 1st gurmukh refers to adhari who has all qualities of gurmukh. 2nd gurmukh refers to mukhi(head) of Guru's 3rd gurmukh refers to Vahiguroo. Above pantkiti talks about gurmukh who is mukhi(head) Guru and their discourse which is shabad(naad)one should sing that. Then Sidhas said, vedas also gives updesh(discourse), what was need for gurmukh naadan? Guru Ji replied, gurmukh vaydaN Gurmukh who is mukhi(head) Guru created vedas, gives gyan and also can gyan in form of satguru. gurmukh rahi-aa samaa-ee. Vahiguroo is sar vaiyapakh(everywhere) who resides in vedas and also resides in Satguru. Guru ji explained them just because vedas are there does not mean Vahiguroo cannot give further discourses or cannot transcedent it's sargun form attributes into avtar. To be Continued: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 tape 22 out of 81 Sidhas asked then Guru ji, don't you consider powers of isher, bhrma, vishnu, shivji, paravarati , lakshmi ?? Guru Ji replied: gur eesar gur gorakh barmaa gur paarbatee maa-ee. Akaal purkh is my Satguru who is also Guru of isher, gorakh, brhma, gur paarbatee maa-ee. Guru Ji said, if one will first bow down to isher then gorakh then brhma then parbateee this will bring duality. God is one and I only bow to one- akaal purkh who is the creator of all these deities. One should only ask for bhramvidya (knowledge of god) from vahiguroo because these deities don't have bhram vidya they are mere creation of akaal purkh who are performing specific tasks. Sidhas went in silence after this and they said- we agree akaal purkh is highest of all from everyone. To be continued: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 tape 23 out of 81: Sidhas requested Guru ji to tell them more about akaal purkh. Guru Ji said: jay ha-o jaanaa aakhaa naahee Although with guesses we know about him, however we cannot be fully certain and describe him fully accurately. Guru ji further said: kahnaa kathan na jaa-ee. Knowing or talking about him fully is extremely hard because there is no such language to describe him. guraa ik dayhi bujhaa-ee. The Guru(Akaal Purkh) has given me this one understanding: sabhnaa jee-aa kaa ik daataa so mai visar na jaa-ee. || 5 All the beings, deities, avtars has one and only one creator(God), May i never forget him. Gyani Ji talks about how sikhs at this point asked Guru Ji about akaal purkh qualities? Guru Ji replied: thaapi-aa na jaa-ay God cannot be comprehended or described in physical form. Guru Gobind Singh Ji says: Dhyaan mein na aavaie, Takhu Dhyaan Kijaaie Dhaaaieee || Dhyaan Dharo Taie Kao Mann Mein Jaiko Amitho Sabhaie Jag Shaaoo(Sri Dasam Guru Granth Sahib) Gyani ji talks about this extremely deep pankiti from Sri Dasam Guru granth, first Guru ji said- Akaal Purkh cannot be comprehended within this mind, then Guru ji talks about how one should concentrate on him. Gyani ji warns this may seem contradictory for some. However Guru's wisdom can never be contradictory, gyani ji talks about how in the second line Guru ji is advising his sikhs - Akaal purkh which is sam(sarab vyapakh- exist in each praticle of the creation yet non-existant), one should concentrate on his creation. Gyani further clarifies there are two types of concentration one does. First is concentration of an akar saroop(icon) in meditation which is not encouraged in Sikh Dharam. Second is concentration of nirakar dhyaan which can be done knowing, contemplating that God is form of light, sound and sarab vyapakh- resides in each praticle of his creation, including one's inside, outside, realms, planets, universe.. visualizing his creation in your concentration while meditating is called concentration(dhyaan) of niraakar. Once bhai mardana asked Guru Ji about Vahiguroo's qualities. Guru Ji replied, just like thousands of lightning, suns get together that much energy god has but despite of God having that much energy yet God is extremely calm as if feeling being close to thousand of himalayas if one expereince his energy..one gets their soul fill with calmness and filled with bliss. keetaa na ho-ay. He cannot be established through parthikh upasana(desiring him through self-made pictures in our mind) or any kind of technique. aapay aap niranjan so-ay. He Himself is jiv roop, isher roop, shud(pure) roop. Roop means characteristic Vahiguroo in sargun(existent) form - jiv roop, isher roop. Vahiguroo in Nirgun(non-existent) form- shud(pure) roop. Sikhs asked Guru Ji, please expand on this through lakh arth(deep analysis while giving characteristics of 3 roops) Guru ji explains that there are three pads which represents three roop. Tuaang pad represents jiv(being), Tat pad represents isher roop and aaassh pad represents shud bhram roop. Apaay Tuang pad which is jiv(physical being) have khad vikar (6 types of vikars/desires)- 1. Birth and death. 2. Pran(vital force) causes hunger and thrist. 3. Man(mind) causes happy/sadness. Jiv consist of these 6 vikars along with result which is avidya(ignorance). aap Tat pad which is isher roop have six types of virtues - 1. Creating beings,deities. 2. Perserving them. 3. Destroying them. 4. Knows past, present, future events (have antarjamta) 5. Gives one fruit according to karmas 6. Control of reincarnations/rebirths of this being. Isher roop is bhram(God) however in sargun form because when God(non existent form) had a desire(itcha) of transforming from one to countless forms. That thought is called maya. However that is pure maya. Maya has three gunas- rajo, tamo, sato gun. When an being has 100 percent pure sato gun(full of virtues), shud maya and bhram di jot-atma. When these three things get together that forms an Isher which controls the full universe. Niranjan Shud Bhram Roop - non-existent form of GOD. So-aay || Guru ji says all three(roops) have one thing common which exist in all of them. Jiv(being) has atma(soul) which is Sat( supreme truth), Chit ( superme consciousness), Anand (supreme transcedental bliss) saroop. Isher roop also has atma(soul) which is Sat( supreme truth), Chit ( supreme consciousness), Anand (supreme transcedental bliss) saroop. Shud Bhram roop is atma but since God gives nourishment to all creation is known as paratma which is Sat Chit Anand Saroop. Guru ji further explained by giving an example of pot(being) which has water, river(isher) which is water and ocean(bhram) which is water. Out of three there is one thing common despite of outer look/big/small size and that common thing is water !!!!!!!!!! In the above example water being Sat Chit Anand Sarooop(Vahiguroo) which reside in jiv(being), isher, shud bhram roop(non existent form). To be continued: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 tape 24 out of 81: Guru Ji says: jin sayvi-aa tin paa-i-aa maan. Those who served Him are honored and they get free of ahankar(ego) in lok/parlok (here and other world). Gyani Ji explain how people serve him through six different ways: 1. Partakh Parman: People who serve God through his creation.: Eho Vis Sansar Tum Dekdhai Eho Har Ka Roop hai Har Roop Nadri Ayaa || 2. Anuman Parman: People who serve God through guess just like some atheist don't beleive in existence of God. However they do admit through their studies that there is some supernatural energy (anuman) behind the creation ie- mountains, stars, moon, sun, tree, valeys etc. 3. Upman Parman: People who serve God by glorifying him through examples like for instance- how sky is numb and God does not have numbness. God is sarab vyapak(exist everywhere). 4. Shabadapatti Parman: People who serve God by having full faith just by listening to shabad. For example- When Satguru speaks via shabad about bhram(God) then Sikhs beleive in it. 5. Arthapati Parman: People who serve God by taking an meaning out from kudrat(Creation). Kudrat Karkai Vaasaya Soii || 6. Aaitejak Parman: People who serve God through following social norms, just by listening(sarvan) from gurbani, vedas. To be Continued: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 tape 25 out of 81: Gyani ji now talks about how people with different school of thought(Nakhed Pakhwaley) tried to debunk(biddhi pakhwaley) school of thoughts that we talked about in previous tape. They questioned partakh parman, they say via partakh parman one cannot see vahiguroo because sight senses can only see asthohol(physical) elements not subtle elements.. so we disapprove this type of thought. Then they questioned anuman parman. How can one even guess about him? Because for one to guess one needs to compare an example that this looks like him. Akaal purkh which is sarabvyaapak and parripuran(subtle) cannot be compared...so we also disapprove this type of school of thought. Then they went questioned Upman Parman. One cannot resemble akaal purkh fully. So they disapprove this school of thought as well. Then they went on and questioned Arthapati Parman, one cannot take example of kudrat or any being because being is binded with 5 kosas(sheats) but atma is free from mind, body, 5 kosas, it cannot be described. so they disapproved this school of thought as well. Gyani ji talks about how Vahiguroo is Swaye Anubhav Parman Saroop. Gyani Ji recalls an incident how people wanted to make movie of tenth Guru- Satguru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj. Some people went to take permission from sant/mahatama's(saints). One of saint got up and said - listen no one can compare or copy dasam patsah- Siri Guru Gobind Singh Ji role. Guru Gobind Singh Ji talks about akaal purkh. How God is Swaye Anubhav Parman Saroop in Sri Dasam Guru Granth and also debunks the above six school of thoughts that biddhi pakhwaley belives in. Anbhav Parkash Nis Din Anas ||(Jaap Sahib) Guru Ji narrated: naanak gaavee-ai gunee niDhaan. O Nanak, sing the Treasure of Excellence of Lord with the sangat, through Guru. gaavee-ai sunee-ai man rakhee-ai bhaa-o. Sing, listen, acknowledge, act upon and contemplate with God's glory and let your mind be filled with love(parkash). Sidhas asked Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji please tell us breifly about sarvan (listening). What is the svaroop/saroop of Sarvan? Guru Ji replied: There are types of sarvan svaroop First svaraop of sarvan is the discourse one hears from their Guru or vedas/shastaras and contemplates on it. Man Tu Jot Svaroop hai Apna Mool Paichaain || Purpose of first svaroop of sarvan(listening) is that it makes one have full faith that atma(our soul) is indeed an image of God. Second Svaroop of sarvan(listening) is following sermons of Guru. Sermons have six signs. 1. Upkaram/Upsangar: means wherever one starts, ends at that point too. Gyani Ji gives example from gurbani- aad sach, jugad sach, habhi sach, nanak hosi bhi sach. Ikongkar is mangalroop. Aad poran madh poran ant poran paremshvara || 2. Abhyaas: Repetition of one mantar, gurbani tuk. Har Ek Simar Ek Simar Ek Simar Pyare || Simaro Simar Sukh Pavaaaoo || To be continued: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 tape 26 out of 81: Gyani ji overviews first and second svaroop of sarvan. First svaraop of sarvan is the discourse one hears from their Guru or vedas/shastaras and contemplates on it. Man Tu Jot Svaroop hai Apna Mool Paichaain || Purpose of first svaroop of sarvan(listening) is that it makes one have full faith that atma(our soul) is indeed an image of God. Second Svaroop of sarvan(listening) is following sermons of Guru. Sermons have six signs. 1. Upkaram/Upsangar: means wherever one starts, ends at that point too. Gyani Ji gives example from gurbani- aad sach, jugad sach, habhi sach, nanak hosi bhi sach. Ikongkar is mangalroop. Aad poran madh poran ant poran paremshvara || 2. Abhyaas: Repetition of one mantar, gurbani tuk. Har Ek Simar Ek Simar Ek Simar Pyare || Simaro Simar Sukh Pavaaaoo || 3. Apooravta: Without Guru, one cannot get gyan(true knowledge). Gurbani says: Gur Bin Gyan Na Hovai || Jai Soou Chanda Ugavaie, Soraj Charaie Hazaar Etai Chanan Hundaya Gur Bin Ghoor Andhar || 4. Labvata: Jagiaaso asks the Guru, what can i benefit by listening to your discourses? Guru Ji replies one gets jivan mukhti: Jio Jal Mein Jal Aye Khatana Tio Joti Sang Jot Samana || 5. Arthvaad: When one listens to an verse then makes an effort know the meaning after that contemplate on it. Gyani Ji recommends that one should do either 100 japji sahib a day or do one japji sahib with meanings via doing vichar through steeks(deep meanings of gurbani) 6. Uppatti: Uppatti is jugti(technique) which is given in Gurbani. Vahiguroo is sarabvyapak your inside and outside... For example- Ghat Ghat Mein Har Jo Baasaie Santan Kaio Pookar || Sidhas asked Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji please tell us breifly about manan(acceptance). What is the svaroop/saroop of Manan that you talked about in gaavee-ai sunee-ai man rakhee-ai bhaa-o Guru Ji replied: One should man(accept) that God is inside and outside me. Sarabvyapak (every where). One shouldn't say that God is very distant. Guru ji further said: third stage talked about in the verse was nidhasan(acting upon it) which is main out of sarvan and manan. One listens to spiritual discourses and also accept the discourses. However not many act upon or contemplate with the discourses(nidhasan). Guru Ji said Sajati brithi(vision that gives birth to knowledge) one should kill vijayti brithi (vision that gives birth to ignorance) within one self. That's why I have narrated: gaavee-ai sunee-ai man rakhee-ai bhaa-o || Whereas suneeai refers to sarvan(listening), man(acceptance) rakhaaee refers to nidhasan(Acting upon ) the divine discourses(gurbani). If one does these three things and let your mind be filled with love. And then one gets this in return: dukh parhar sukh ghar lai jaa-ay. There are four main types of Dukh: Vichora(separation) Bhouk(hunger) Dukh from Jamdoot (torture in hands of angel of death) Physical diseases and Illness. Some of these dukhs we suffer here in this earth some in other world(parlok) All these pain(dukh) main and small pains shall be gone away, and one gets turiya avastha(highest state of enlightment) merges in Nirvkalap Samadhi (meditation with no thoughts) in this type of samadhi one does not what time is it, where is one sitting, one does not feel hungry or thristy, one does not even know about the existence of one self. To be continued: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2005 Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 tape 27 out of 81 Guru Ji says: gurmukh naadaN Guru oreintated person first does kirtan or sing his praises. gurmukh vaydaN Guru oreintated person then does vichaar on atam gyan, on one's self and contemplate on one self. Kaai Saroop Geet Gaavaie Kaai Saroop Dhyan laavaie | (Vichar Sagar Granth) gurmukh rahi-aa samaa-ee. Guru oreintated person then goes to nirvakalap samadhi Gyani ji talks about how gurmukh in 24 hours does sing his praises, then do vichar on one self's(atma) goes to nirvakalap samadhi. gur eesar gur gorakh barmaa gur paarbatee maa-ee. My akaal purkh is my Satguru who is also Guru of isher, gorakh, brhma, gur paarbatee maa-ee. jay ha-o jaanaa aakhaa naahee kahnaa kathan na jaa-ee. Even knowing God, I cannot describe Him; He cannot be described in words. guraa ik dayhi bujhaa-ee. Guru(Akaal Purkh)has given me this one understanding: sabhnaa jee-aa kaa ik daataa so mai visar na jaa-ee. ||5|| All the beings, deities, avtars has one and only one creator(God) after Guru came this realization there is no difference me and him. so mai - so ahang avastha ( I am thee state of mind). Gyani ji shares an sakhi of Siri Guru Nanank Dev Ji giving guruship to Bhai Lehna Ji made him Guru Angad Dev Ji. Sri Guru Nanak Gurdev asked Sri Guru Angad Dev Ji- what do you see?. Sri Guru Angad Dev ji said, So mai (So ahang- I am bhram, thee). Siri Guru Nanak Dev Ji said, this is same state - so ahang where there is no difference. Sri Guru Nanak dev ji advised Sri Guru Angad Dev ji not to use sohang ( I am thee) infront of sangat because some people can use this mantar and start calling themselves God in ego. That's why infront of them we need to be das(inferior) in words so they can adapt virtues. so infront of them always say- so mai visar na jaaee (May i never forget him). However, when it comes to antriv avastha( your internal state), always remember so mai (I am you) visar na jaaee ( i can never forget that. because of self-realization). Sidhas asked Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji to join pilgrame with them. Guru Ji replied: tirath naavaa jay tis bhaavaa vin bhaanay ke naa-ay karee. If I am pleasing to Him by staying in bhanna(hakum), then that is my pilgrimage and cleansing bath. Without pleasing Him, what good are ritual cleansings? To be continued: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 tape 28 out of 81: jaytee sirath upaa-ee vaykhaa vin karmaa ke milai la-ee. Upon gazing upon all his created beings without the karma of good actions, what are they going to receive?, what are they going to take? mat vich ratan javaahar maanik jay ik gur kee sikh sunee. Within the mind are gems, jewels and rubies of gyan(knowledge), if you listen to the Guru's Teachings. guraa ik dayhi bujhaa-ee. The Guru(Akaal Purkh) has given me this one understanding: sabhnaa jee-aa kaa ik daataa so mai visar na jaa-ee. All the beings, deities, avtars has one and only one creator(God), May i never forget him. Gyani ji explains how sikhs along with bhai lehna ji asked about meaning of this verse: tirath naavaa jay tis bhaavaa vin bhaanay ke naa-ay karee Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji said, first of all going to tirath is not recommended.. because it's not made by akaal purkh but made by deities. I recommend my sikhs - sunaaie mannaie man kita bhaaoo, antar gat tirath mal nauo || Tirath Navan Jao Tirath Naam hai Tirath Shabad Vichar Antar Gyan Hai || Cleanse your mind that is internal tirath and stay in the hakum of Vahiguroo. How could one do ishan(cleanse) of internal tirath(mind) without following hakum of Vahiguroo? Then Sikhs along with bhai lehna ji asked Siri Guru Nanak dev Ji about meaning of this verse: jaytee sirath upaa-ee vaykhaa vin karmaa ke milai la-ee. God is watching it's creation, without karam(grace) human cannot gain anything. Sikhs then asked Guru ji- how come people with bad karmas still get what they wish for. Guru Ji replied, without niskham seva(doing selfless service without asking anything)- this being cannot acheive divine grace. ============= tape 29 out of 81: Guru ji futher narrated: mat vich ratan javaahar maanik jay ik gur kee sikh sunee. If one listens to guru discourse that jiv atma(soul) and bhram(God) are one, they look different because of avidya(ignorance), then one gets Ratan(bairaag),javahar(gyan) in their mind. guraa ik dayhi bujhaa-ee. Guru(Akaal Purkh)has given me this one understanding that this body is bound to get destroy one day or another, but this atma which exist in every being never gets destroyed, that is your real self. sabhnaa jee-aa kaa ik daataa so mai visar na jaa-ee. All the beings, deities, avtars has one and only one creator(God), if one follows that and contemplates on that then one gets self-realization that there is no difference me and him. so mai - so ahang avastha ( I am thee state of mind). Sidhas offered Guru ji to join their school of thought. We will teach you how to do meditation, observing breaths because with that one can live extremely long and gets lot of power. Guru Ji smiled and said: jay jug chaaray aarjaa hor dasoonee ho-ay. Even if you could live by taking breaths into tenth door throughout the four ages, or even ten times more of ages, navaa khanda vich jaanee-ai naal chalai sabh ko-ay. and even if you were known throughout the nine continents and followed by all, changa naa-o rakhaa-ay kai jas keerat jag lay-ay. with a good name and reputation, with praise and fame throughout the world- jay tis nadar na aavee ta vaat na puchhai kay. still, if the Lord does not bless you with His Glance of Grace, then who cares? What is the use? keetaa andar keet kar dosee dos Dharay. Among worms, you would be considered a lowly worm, and even contemptible sinners would hold you in contempt. Gyani ji shares an sakhi- How once Siri Guru Hargobind Sahib going from village to village. He came across with the huge snake was coming towards him. Sikhs became savdhan(alert) and took their arrows. Guru ji told them not to hit the snake. Guru Ji came down from the horse and touch the snake's head with his foot. Upon doing, this snake who was 12 foot long brusted, there were small worms in count of millions came out of snake along with spirit. Spirit did namaskar to Guru Ji. Guru Ji said who are you? Spirit responded, I was very well know scholar in this village. With my knowledge, i was able to win hearts of million of people who gave me gifts and money, who also concentrate d on my image while meditating. This made me quite greedy at the end, i died in thought of money that's why i have became an snake..since my followers concentrated on my body while meditation, when they died, they became worms..these are same worms in number of millions who were inside me and eating me out. I was very very unhappy that i start remembering you that hopefully you will come one day and free me from this torture. To be continued: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 tape 30 out of 81: naanak nirgun gun karay gunvanti-aa gun day. Guru Nanak says, God blesses the unworthy with virtue, and bestows virtue on the virtuous. Gyan ji gives an analogy how when rain(virtue) pours. It rains everywhere- dry area to wet area. tayhaa ko-ay na sujh-ee je tis gun ko-ay karay. ||7|| No one can even imagine anyone who can bestow/bless virtue upon Vahiguroo. Siri Guru Nanak Dev Ji then narrated pauri 7 which has importance of sarvan(listening). suni-ai siDh peer sur naath. By Listening the Siddhas, the spiritual teachers, the heroic warriors, the yogic masters all got gyan. suni-ai Dharat Dhaval aakaas. By Listening one comes to know that earth supported by bull name- dharam, the Akaashic ethers. suni-ai deep lo-a paataal. By Listening one comes know that there are seven oceans, fourteen lands of the world and seven nether regions of the underworld. suni-ai pohi na sakai kaal. By Listening the discourse that one who recites Naam Death cannot even touch them. naanak bhagtaa sadaa vigaas. O Nanak, the devotees are forever in bliss. suni-ai dookh paap kaa naas. ||| 8 By Listening-pain and sin are erased. Gyani ji says that people listen to bad stuff and they have bad effect on them and there are people who listen to good stuff (naam, gurbani, katha, vichar, spiritual discourses)..those things have positive effect on people who listen to good stuff. Gyani ji now puts emphasis back on seventh pauri from vedantic context which is extremely deep. jay jug chaaray aarjaa hor dasoonee ho-ay. If one likes to be immmortal then adapt four virtues -sarvan, mannan, Nidhasan, tattang sudhan/Bairaag ,Bibek, Khat Samati ,Moksh Itcha, then da( which is dvaish(duality) is born from avidya(ignorance) gets vanished away by doing vichar via 10 senses on four virtues- sarvan, mannan, Nidhasan, tattang sudhan/Bairaag ,Bibek, Khat Samati ,Moksh Itcha. navaa khanda vich jaanee-ai naal chalai sabh ko-ay. When One finds God out of nine khands within body, kam(lust), krodh(anger), greed(lob), moh(attachment), ahankar(ego), irkha(jealously) all the vices disappears and virtues like sat(truth), santokh(contenment), daya(compassion), gyan starts appearing. changa naa-o rakhaa-ay kai jas keerat jag lay-ay. When one reachs that state of mind then people label them with good name - Nanak Bhramgyani Aaap Parmeshvar || and one gets full praise throughout the world. Upon getting to state of poran bhramgyan (knowledge of god), do they still have vices even after getting to an state of higher reality? Guru Ji says: jay tis nadar na aavee ta vaat na puchhai kay. Person who gets to higher reality, one cannot see desires(trishna) in them, it does not exist in them. keetaa andar keet kar dosee dos Dharay. Dirtness(keeta) of mael, vaikhyap, avaran gets fully cleansed(keet), doose(5 vices) blames(dos Dharay) bhramgyani since bhramgyanis filtered the vices and adapted the virtues. naanak nirgun gun karay gunvanti-aa gun day. Guru Nanak dev ji says: Bhramgyani also blesses the unworthy with virtue, and bestows virtue on the virtuous. tayhaa ko-ay na sujh-ee je tis gun ko-ay karay. ||7|| No one can even imagine anyone who can bestow virtue upon Bhramgyani. ================= tape 31 out of 81: Gyani ji then talks about eight pauri from vedantic context. suni-ai siDh peer sur naath. By Listening to Naam the Siddhas, the spiritual teachers, dieties, the yogic masters all got gyan. Gyani ji gives an sakhi of shiv ji maharaj and parbhati. How at one event shiv ji was giving parbhati spiritual discourses (amar katha). She kept listening to shiv ji but then after hours she felt an sleep. In this event there was a crocodile who actually listened to full discourse of shiv ji (amar katha) without moving. Just by listening(sarvan) to Naam..crocodile gave birth - famous sidha name- maschindernat. suni-ai Dharat Dhaval aakaas. This earth is also listening to Naam reciten by bhramgyani and get purified. Naam- Dharam(religon), Dhaval(patal-underground earth) and akash get their support by listening to Naam. Gyani ji gives another tuk from gurbani: Dharat Patal Akash hai meri jinderaie, Sab Har Har Naam Dhaaiye Ram || suni-ai deep lo-a paataal. By Listening to Naam ,seven oceans, fourteen lands of the world and seven nether regions of the underworld gets their support. suni-ai pohi na sakai kaal. Person who Listens to Naam, death, yamdoots, dharam raja cannot even touch them. naanak bhagtaa sadaa vigaas. Nanak says: the devotees are forever in bliss. suni-ai dookh paap kaa naas. By Listening to Naam-pain and sin are erased. ||8|| To be Continued: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 Tape 32 & 33 out of 81: Guru Ji further says: suni-ai eesar barmaa ind. By Listening one comes to know about Shiva, Brahma and Indra. suni-ai mukh saalaahan mand. By Listening to Naam even one gets praised by foul-mouthed person. suni-ai jog jugat tan bhayd. By Listening to Naam one gets knowledge about technology of Yoga and the secrets of the body. Gyani ji shares how yogis do meditation: Yogis concentrate on five elements of body (earth, fire, air, water,sky) in their meditation. First they start with meditating on earth, they do that for few years, they got power in return that they cannot be bury under the earth, even if someone tries to bury them Then they start meditating on fire, they do that for few years, they got power in return that they cannot be burned in fire. Then like that they start meditating on air, they do that for few years, they got power in retun that they cannot be moved by strongest wind. Then they meditate on water unil they get power of not drowning in the water. They can walk on it. Then they meditate on fifth element which is sky, they do meditate on that for years until they got power of floating on the sky. Gyani ji stresses that gursikhs does not need to go to that long route, they should meditate on naam which is all pervading and they get saved from five elements and more. suni-ai saasat simrit vayd. By Listening to Naam- bhrama, rishis, munnis wrote six Shaastras, twenty-seven Simritees and four Vedas. naanak bhagtaa sadaa vigaas. Nanak says, the devotees are forever in bliss. suni-ai dookh paap kaa naas. By Listening to Naam-pain and sin are erased. ||9|| suni-ai sat santokh gi-aan. By Listening to Naam- one gets to know real essence of truth, contentment and spiritual wisdom. To be continued: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 tape 34 out of 81: suni-ai sat santokh gi-aan. By Listening to Naam- one gets to know real essence of truth, contentment and spiritual wisdom. Gyani ji gives an example of baba deep singh ji. How baba deep singh ji was embodiment of sat, santokh and gian, How he saved 38,000 women honor from mughal oppressors. Out of 38,000 women. One women was extremely beautiful. Singhs requested baba deep singh ji to give her ride home because our mind may can go astray. Baba Deep Singh Ji took five singhs along with him to drop her off. Women's beauty had no effect on him. He was know as jat-sati(celibate), santokhi and bhramgyani mahapursh all because of reciting naam and listening to Naam.. suniai at(h)asat(h) kaa eisanaan || By Listening to Naam- one takes a cleansing bath of amrit after going through sixty-eight pilgrames which exist within our body, after one realizes that then they get same anand that people get after visiting 68 physical pilgrames. suni-ai parh parh paavahi maan. Firt one listens then recites and contemplates on it, then honor is obtained in this world(lok) and next world (parlok). Gyani ji uses gives deep interpertations of this above tuk- By listening to Naam, one rips(paaar)- 5 kosas/sheats (Anamay kosh, Pranmay Kosh, Manmay Kosh, Viganmay kosh, Anandmay Kosh), avidya(ignorance) through and get honor in this world (lok) and next world(parlok). suni-ai laagai sahj Dhi-aan. By listening to Naam- one intuitively grasp the essence of meditation, one automatically can concentrate on meditation all time. Gyan ji gives an example of Bhai Gonda Ji one day he was fully concentrating on Guru Har Rai Ji's feet. Guru Ji didn't move and had his eyes closed even when sevadar requested Guru ji to eat food. Guru ji after 4 pm did naitar parkash( opened his eyes from samadhi). Sikhs asked Guru Ji what happened? Guru ji replied, today bhai gonda ji held on to my feet as in was concentrating on my image. How can i leave him, i was binded with his love. Gyani ji says- Dhan(concentration) has soo much power. When someone is remembering Vahiguroo with dhyaan(concentration), vahiguroo gives devotee darshan(come to see devotee). Then Guru Ji says: naanak bhagtaa sadaa vigaas. O Nanak, the devotees are forever in bliss. suni-ai dookh paap kaa naas. ||10|| By Listening to Naam-pain and sin are erased. suniai saraa gunaa kae gaah || By Listening to Naam, one dive's deep into the ocean of virtue. By Listening to Naam one's surati(concentration) merge with shabad and hit its aim which is nirankar. Sara means- Sarovar(ocean) Guna- virtues like truth, contement, knowledge etc. Gaaha means aim To be continued: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 tape 35 out of 81: suniai saekh peer paathisaah || By listening to Naam one comes to know about Shaykhs, religious scholars, spiritual teachers and emperors. suniai a(n)dhhae paavehi raahu || By Listening to Naam- the ignorant blind ones and even the blind who literally cannot see, can find the spiritual Path. Guru Ji also says: Keh Nanak Eh Naaitar Andh Saie Satgur milae Deeb-dristh hoe || suniai haathh hovai asagaahu || By listening(sarvan) to the Naam-deep ocean becomes size of hand and one can easily across the worldy ocean. Gyani ji gives an example how maharaja ranjit singh once came to know when his main general hari singh nalva got killed. He took off with his horse and his soldiers to fight the enemy. While he was going, on his away he found deep river which he had to across in order to reach destination. Maharaja ranjit singh ji stopped near edge of river, one of mahapursh- baba bir singh ji naurangabad asked maharaja ranjit singh, what's wrong? He replied there is deep river ahead. what should be done? Baba Bir Singh Ji told maharaja ranjit singh, this is nothing, guru maharaj ji told us `suniai haathh hovai asagaahu ||. We shall do ardas. They did ardas with full faith, please bless us to come across the deep river. There were few hundred turks who didn't had faith and still had doubts in their minds. Maharaja ji did vahiguroo jap after ardas, and his horse stepped on water. When that happened, all depth of water disappeared and khalsa army with their horses was able to across the whole river easily, all of army was able to across the river except those who had doubt and lack of faith in their mind. They were drowned because of lack of faith. To be Continued 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 tape 36 out of 81 naanak bhagtaa sadaa vigaas. Nanak says, the devotees are forever in bliss. suni-ai dookh paap kaa naas. ||11|| By Listening to Naam-pain and sin are erased. Then Guru Ji says: mannay kee gat kahee na jaa-ay. Those who follow bachan of Guru, their state of mind cannot be described. Gyani ji gives an example from the history- how bhai jevan ji followed Guru Har Rai Ji's bachan. In 1712 bikrami When Guru Maharaj celebrated jor mela at Kartarpur Sahib.. there was this bhramin son's passed away. His father bought his dead body to Guru Ji. He begged Guru ji to bring him alive. Guru Ji told him, one has to stay in hakum of Vahiguroo. Sikhs besides also start requesting Guru Ji to bring him alive. Guru ji then said, okay if you wish to bring him alive then one of you should come forward and leave your body so hakum is not broken and other person can be bought back to life again because it be replacement. Most of sikhs there had their heads down in shame. After waiting a little, Guru Ji called for volunteers again, but same silence again. Guru Ji asked the third time, there was this sikh name- bhai jeevan ji he thought he should volunteer so he sneaked out from back door and went to his house, did ishnan and did japji sahib and realised his prana's(breath)/body. When that happened, son of bhramin got up. Guru Ji asked, who followed my bachan? One of sevadars told Guru Ji, it was bhai jeevan ji who got up and went home to gave up his body for this kid. Guru Ji said, here take your son. Pandit was really happy. Guru Ji said, bhai jeevan got all graces and will get higher state because he followed bachan. Then Siri Guru Nanak Dev narrated: jay ko kahai pichhai pachhutaa-ay. One who tries to describe state of those who follow bachan of Guru shall regret the attempt. kaagad kalam na likhanhaar. No paper, no pen, no scribe can record the state of the faithful devoote. mannay kaa bahi karan veechaar. Those who follows bachan of guru, the veechar on their state cannot be done alone but in sangat one can only touch on their life and still will not be enough. aisaa naam niranjan ho-ay. Such is the Name of the Immaculate Lord. jay ko man jaanai man ko-ay. ||12|| Only ones who have follow Naam in their mind comes to know such a state of mind. Gyani ji talks about how naam needs to first reciten by tongue, listened with your ears, then with mind do vichar and contemplated on. But in order to do that, one should listen to katha arths of gurbani and do vichar of gurbani because mind gets fully concentrated and stays intact. To be Continued: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 tape 37 out of 81: Guru ji then says: mannai surat hovai man buDh. Those who have listened and followed discourses of Guru they get intuitive awareness(surat) about mind and intelligence, their surat merges with shabad. Gyan ji shares an sakhi how one sikh came to Guru Maharaj told Guru Ji that i cannot get concentration in my mind. Guru Ji replied- tu dhan hai ( you are great). Again next day, this sikh came to Guru Maharaj told the same thing, this time Guru Ji told him- Teri mata-pitta bhi dhan hai (your parents are also great). Again he came back next day to guru ji and complained about the same thing, Guru Ji replied- tera pind bhi dhan hai ( your village is also great). This sikh got confused and asked i don't understand. Guru Ji explained him that you should thank to lord atleast you acknowledge that you have a mind, ninty-five percent of people in this earth living an life of an animal. Since you have found or located the disease, you will also find cure of it. Mann has four elements/names- Mann, Chit, Buddh, Ahankar. This is also known as Chatusta. We call it mann when this mind does sankalp/vikalp( have thoughts), We call it buddhi when this mind in illusion consider false worldly things as truth and perceive truth(God) as false, We call it chit when mind is moody and desires for differe things, ahankar- we call it ahankar when mind says I am this, I am that, I am power, my status is high, I am better..! When one acknowledges, accepts and contemplates : Mann Tu Jot Saroop Hai, Apna Mool Painchaain || O mind, you are the manifestation of divine recnognize yourself. They reach higher reality. mannai sagal bhavan kee suDh. By following guru discourses on Naam one knows about all outer worlds and realms,inner chakras(bhvans) within in the body, one's real self(atma). mannai muhi chotaa naa khaa-ay. The faithful in Guru's discourses- naam shall never be struck across the face. Gyani ji gives an example how back in 1810 when mughals attacked the village and forced sikh women to convert into islam, but they didn't converted then they tried to stuck the sikh women with attachment tactics, they killed childrens of sikh women, they chopped the childrens of sikh women infront of their mothers but attachment tactics (muh di sat) used by mughals didn't work. mannai jam kai saath na jaa-ay. The faithful in Guru's discourses- naam do not go with the Messenger of Death. Gyani ji says for gurmukh, at the time of death- either panj singhs, or mahapursh or even guru sometimes comes and take his sikh. Gyani ji given an example- In a pind(village) name mandil, there was a sikh who used to do meditation. Sant baba gurbachan singh ji bhindranwale came to the pind. He attended sant ji discourses. He suddenly with respect told sant ji that I see panj pyares- five beloveds of khalsa . Sant Ji asked him , what are they saying ? He said they are asking me to do anand sahib da patt, since my time has came. Then this singh did anand sahib da patt and left his body. Gyani ji gives an second example - In a pind(boparai) village, there was this sikh name- sardara singh. When his time came to leave the body, he told his parents -he sees sant baba attar singh ji muastaniewaly and he came to take me, my time has came then he happily left his body. Gyani ji gives an another example how there was a premi(lover) of sant baba attar singh ji mustanaywaley name- Kartar Singh. When kartar singh time came, dasam patsah himself came to take him on his horse. On the way, Guru Gobind Singh Ji met sant baba attar singh ji in the farm and said- bhai attar sian, this sikh served you well. Sikh who does mahapursh di seva is beloved to me. Guru ji futher said, tell his family that I came to take him to Sachkhand and not to be sad/emotional. aisaa naam niranjan ho-ay. Such is the Name of the Immaculate Lord. jay ko man jaanai man ko-ay. ||13|| Ones who have follow Naam in their mind, becomes naami/bhram saroop(embodiment of divine lord) To be Continued: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHANBABANANAK Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Could u please explain the 5 kosas/sheats (Anamay kosh, Pranmay Kosh, Manmay Kosh, Viganmay kosh, Anandmay Kosh), avidya(ignorance) in detail. Thankyou 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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