Guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 What would you do if Guru Ji gave you partakh darshan? would you able to recognize him at the first place? I heard stories of many gurmukhs getting darshan of Guru ji, they go full mastane(spiritual intoxicated) all their life, in some circumstances, it's soo intense some of them leave their body in love for Guru ji, and some of them even try to commit sucide after getting darshan of guru ji in urgue to see him again. Guru,and Vahiguroo there is no difference. Vahiguroo's has two forms- nirgun(non existent) and sargun(existent). Sargun form of Vahiguroo is Guru Ji both in form of Shabad Guru and in his physical roop. I know by looking at the sad state in panth and stupidiest thing we fight over ie- color of dastar, big/small kirpan, sarbloh kara or steel kara, meditation postures, certain way of doing patt or interpertating gurbani, certain way of doing kirtan etc, i don't think we be able to recognize him because we have "conditioned" our mind this is how Sri Guru Sahiban should look like, act like, think like, speak like etc etc. We(Sikhs) have started judging our khasam Guru by own little mats(standards). We got people who start rejecting bachitar natak by questioning the act of Guru. Why did he felt a need to write a autiobiography of himself? What if Guru Sahib give us darshan in livaaj(dress) of almast fakir(contary to most people mindset of how Guru dressed like ie- bibeki, 9 inch kirpan etc etc) to test us(sikhs).. is my sikh got to avastha of advait(non duality)/ bhagat namdev where he saw God in Dog and every where? What if Guru Sahib comes to the house of Sikh in form of gareeb(poor person) to test his sikh,.. did my sikh reached the state "free" from dvaish(partiality) towards other human regardless of their dharam? would we able to recnognize him? Guru Ji can take whichever form he wishes in sargun form to test his Sikh because Guru ji is a nirankari jot... what scares me or send shivers down to my spine that we sikhs may even reject our own Guru as "kafir" when we start judging Guru Sahiban with our standards(little mat and buddhi), narrow minded views. sorry for my ranting.. just a thought in my mind..been thinkin about this for last couple of days now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHANBABANANAK Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 good post Neo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x_suman_x Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 i totally agree with u. i don't think that many people who call themselves gursikhs would be able to recognize him if guru ji gave them darshan including myself i think the one of the main reasons for this is that we cannot see beyond our haumai (ego) and maya. we think we are so perfect but we're not. the only being that is perfect is akaal purakh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double_edge Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 I got told by one Singh that if u meet Mahraj u should challenge him to a fight :shock: I said "on ur own bruv, lol, i know who my money would be on to win that one!" His point was to be slain by Mahrajs hand would be his path to salvation. Interesting theory.. although if i do ever get Mahrajs darshan i doubt i'll be trying that out! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artistformalyknownasodhi Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 i'd crap it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vijaydeep Singh Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Gurfateh Gurbar Akal is always in front of us and Gurbani guides us. there is verse that Wrold sees Gurus but understadning Gurbani makes us suffesfull(perhaps to recoganise). 10 forms of Gurus are back in primal form of Gurbar Akal. Two visible form are Guru Panth and Guru Granth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harkirat Singh Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh I have darsan of Guru Ji Whenever I Go To The Gurdwara, Mahraj Be's On Its Throne With People Doing Its Seva Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHANBABANANAK Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Where have you heard gurmukhs getting darshan of Guru ji, they go full mastane(spiritual intoxicated). Who are these sikhs? Id love to meet these gurmuks, how do they get dharshan what do they see? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonriver Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 koee aan milaavei mera preetam pyaaraa, haon tis peh aap vechaaee! but if you cant find the compassion within yourself to see the world through bhai khanaya ji's eyes, how are you going to see guru sahib? i've failed once. i never recognised my guru. our neighbour was moving. and he dropped over a box, telling us to leave it at the gurdwara since his dad wont be needing it anymore and doesnt know what to do with it. we left the box lying there on the floor. went to bed. woke up the next morning. opened it. and found a real aged bir of Guru Granth Sahib Ji. and the agony was indescribable. fancy that, you walk into darbar sahib tall and proud thinking you're a real good sikh and all. and when sachay paatshaah comes to you, you dont even know He's there! forget doing seva. the Lord stayed on the floor the whole night! and then i go around knocking on doors asking for darshan of my madho. yuck. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 moonriver, you spot on,, your post was really painful to read. Vahiguroo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drawrof Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 I'd brag. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moolmantar Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Guru Fateh Am glad you have written this topic...actually Guru Ji, is here right now, and I can prove it... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinegar Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 that has nothing to do with the topic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amrikingh Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 moonriver damn penji...thats painful 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamic_Banda Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 i would say "wow... have you lost weight.. ! " and then say... "wanna play hide and seek for another charasi lack joon... !!!" and then cry that i just wasted my chance .. infact thats usually what happens everytime i go gurdwara.. lol walk in quickly matatek.. say howdy to maharaj sit for awhile chatting crap with mahraj.. and then when i leave.. thats when i remember i wanted to pour my heart out to maharaj.. then think.. naaah will do it next time.. and off i go... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namjap Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 What is your opinion of receiving Darshan in a dream ? I've had this dream of a Sikh leader twice the same person, and in a third dream another sikh leader. The last time was with one wearing white pehrawa and doing kirtan (without musical instruments) I was also singing beside him in a congregation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatehsingh Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 What? No one would alert the Panthic media if they get such a privileged Darshan? tut tut u all call urself panthic?! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 Admin, what is the above post by Satguru Fateh Singh about if it isnt sarcasm??? A very goodthread has been started and its good to see many people respond to it, and Satguru Fateh Singh has true to his nature started talking about the panthic police, therefore diverting the nature of the post. Satguru Fateh Singh, if youwant partakh darshan of Bhai Ram Singh, you can have a pic of me, as I am Bhai Ram Singh, and he is me. Let me know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 Keeping to the topic, I dont honestly know what i would do, as ive always thought of my Guru as the Word/Shabad. And I always look forward to having darshan of the Shabad as often as I can, but in partakh form, I dont know. Near to where I live, a woman told a story that she was visited by Guru Gobind Singh in a dream, who told her , her unborn child would be a great saint. She told this story to everyone, and loads of people started to turn up at her house and they gave money and bowed to the baby. Last I heard of her she moved to Canada. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylitol Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 there are different levels of darshan. Darshan of the Guru in dreams is a very good thing, the next level is partakh darshan (live, in person). your dreams, i've heard, are a reflection of your avastha. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namjap Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 What is the full verse which goes ".....gurbani kehay, sewak jan manney, parthkh guru nistarai" Can anyone touch on this verse please? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 visit www.sikhito themax.com 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahakaal Singh! Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 if i had partak darshan i would fall at maharajs feet and never let go, and give maharaj an ultimatum either you stay here with me or i go with you, and as far as recognizing maharaj his tej would tell all! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaheediyan Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 On the topic of darhsan, all people of the world in every culture and faith have darshan of people they revere. A good example is of Sufi's who, have darshan of their Murshids or Pirs of the past. Christians have darshan of the Christ, Naitve American Indians "seek" to have darshan of ancestors (as do many cultural groups around the world), Sikhs have darshan of Guru Sahiban and shaheeds etc... What does sangat think of the idea that it is not in fact these "actual" personalities visiting people, but more simply, Vaheguru giving darshan/help in the roop that is most adored by him who desires to see it? Obviously this does not negate the fact that if God so wills it, he can send the actual personality in dream/spirit/physical form. It's just that in my limited understanding, these personalities have merged with the creator, and their darshan are of a spiritual nature, so in my mind, all the different people of the world when calling on/hoping for/happening upon darshan of unique personalities, are infact having darshan of the one supreme reality, but just veiled by the image adored by the experiencer? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 very good post shaheediya, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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