Jump to content
amardeep

Was Guru Nanak God himself?

Recommended Posts

hazar unus in hadis habibi
it is mentioned in Hadis Habibi. Arrival of Guru Nanak was also prophesised in Bavikhat Purana .
Hazrat Naimat ullah Shah Wali , a fakir wrote
His name would be NANAK. Populace will give attention to him. This powerful Fakeer [seer] will become famous.
26 shaloks of agman of Guru nanak dev ji mentioned in bhavish puran . thousands of year before he was born

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

hazar unus in hadis habibi

it is mentioned in Hadis Habibi. Arrival of Guru Nanak was also prophesised in Bavikhat Purana .

Hazrat Naimat ullah Shah Wali , a fakir wrote

His name would be NANAK. Populace will give attention to him. This powerful Fakeer [seer] will become famous.

26 shaloks of agman of Guru nanak dev ji mentioned in bhavish puran . thousands of year before he was born

Just to add, read

Gurmat De Paandhi

By Sant Sewa Singh Ji

I think it's page 10, but it mentions all these things

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

.god has no friends or enemies he heeds no hallejahs nor cares about cures .being the first and timeless how can he manifest himself through those who are born and die -guru gobind singh ji

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sahib jee, please be careful with your word usage - Guru Gobind singh sahib was never born, his was a Prakash ( Bhaee Prakash Hamaro...bichitar natak). therefore, he has never and will never die..he is just "alooop" and visible to those follow his rehat and remember him ..

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

ChzS1ngh Ji, WJKK WJKF,

You always amaze me. You and I think absolutely alike with regards to reality, our existence and our true identity!

SGGSJ Ang 60

ਸੋਹੰ ਆਪੁ ਪਛਾਣੀਐ ਸਬਦਿ ਭੇਦਿ ਪਤੀਆਇ ॥

Sohaʼn āp pacẖẖāṇī▫ai sabaḏ bẖeḏ paṯī▫ā▫e.
One who recognizes within himself that, "He is me", and who is pierced through by the Shabad, is satisfied.
ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਆਪੁ ਪਛਾਣੀਐ ਅਵਰ ਕਿ ਕਰੇ ਕਰਾਇ ॥੯॥
Gurmukẖ āp pacẖẖāṇī▫ai avar kė kare karā▫e. ||9||
When one becomes Gurmukh and realizes his own self, what more is there left to do or have done? ||9||

maybe i am getting confused here...

but surely gurbani explains this clearly....

there is 'only' God...nothing else....

only god takes form, then leaves form...he comes as a tree, a person, an animal, an insect...as the fisherman...and the fish...as the air, as the fire...all is him...

he creates his creation and then enjoys it...

it is only our ego sense which makes us think He is something seperate...that I am Me, and God is He...two seperate entities...but it is all an illusion...in this age of kalyug the sense of Ego is HUGE...where these bubbles of God consciousness question walking through endless life cycles have completely forgotton their true selves (God) and now question the existence of God...through ignorance...so now we hate each other, fight each other, back stab each other...want more money than the other...etc etc etc

through Simran we can reduce the ego sense...and as that reduces...God Blossoms forth. It was 'and is' always God that was here all along, Simran(remembering) awakens us to our true reality...god consciousness...that all is Him...that we may see what the Guru Ji's saw....God and nothing but God...and then maybe we can return to loving one another (god), helping one another (God) not competing with one another (God)..etc etc

It is not just a saying when we say 'See god in all' ... one day we will literally 'See god in all'

what an amazing creation...we cannot even fathom it...our Ego will not allow us to...only hearing his Shabad can pull our attention from being ignorant, back to seeing Him.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 7/2/2006 at 10:38 PM, amardeep said:

do you consider Guru Nanak the creator of the world?

Dear brother Amardeep,

it would be better if we say, that the Creator Himself, assumed a limited form as a Guru, for us limited beings, in order to teach us the Higher Truth in our own terms.

ਗੁਰੁ ਗੋਪਾਲੁ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਭਗਵਾਨੁ ॥

Gur   Gopaal   Purakh Bhagavaan ||

The Guru is the Lord of the World, the Primal Being, the Lord God.

Raag Gond Guru Arjan Dev

 

He Waheguru Akal Purukh, is Alakh Purukh, is Nirala, is Agam Purukh, thus not perceived, not only by any our indriyas, but our spiritual sight is also taped by our karmas, vikars, sanskaras...... So you see, not only He is subtle, thus not perceived as said above, but neither we have any such instruments to reveal Him, for we are spiritually blind, thus all our actions are futile.

He also, in His original form is in a way to say, He is limited, for however He may much want, we can never ever  have His darshan, nor profit from His akhoot Jot.

So He comes at our level as a human being like us, which is considered the top of the creation.

He comes as a Guru, as Guru Sahiban, because He, our True Father and Mother, can not resist Himself, when He hears our  terrible wails of pain and despair due to our own karmas, for that is what in reality exists in the mayavee creation.

And His greatness is such, that in spite of being omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent, He respects His Hukum, His bhaana, in terms of  His own created laws of nature.

He does not display any supernatural powers, that is not His character, unlike the avtars of gods, godesses, or other spiritual entities.

His purpose of coming here, is only to make us know about His true reality of Nam or Shabad, and to make us foolish agyanis understand, that Nam is the only  eternal and unchangeable Truth that exits, and is the only boat, the  only vessel, which by boarding on, we can cross from the false and perishable  creation of Brahm, to the other side of the shore, where only  eternity and True bliss exists, namely Sach Khand.

 

ਗੁਰੁ ਬੋਹਿਥੁ ਤਾਰੇ ਭਵ ਪਾਰਿ ॥

Gur Bohithh Thaarae Bhav Paar ||

The Guru is the boat to cross over the terrifying world-ocean.

So you see, if the Guru is the boat to cross the maha bhavsagar, it is just but natural, that He Waheguru, assumes the form of a Guru to take our souls across, isn´t it?

The glory or mahima of Guru and Gobind is apaar, words fail to describe Him, He is beyond any description....

Stay blessed.

SSA.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...

×
×
  • Create New...