Inderpal1994

You've gotten way too sensitive about my post/topic. I'm asking about opinions on how we speak and see Parmatma based on dharmic compared to the Abrahmic understanding of Parmatma. Also, don't try to end this topic when I'm looking for views and opinions. If this how the conversation is gonna go, than I will leave the topic open for others.

I read, I listen to respected gyani and bhramgyani. I do my own research. Hence why I am asking for your opinion and views.

I have a foundation. What I am saying is sikhi have their own (not exclusive) awareness of the Divine. However, when I read through post and sikh commentary the God we speak on sounds more like the Abhramic God. Our awareness on the Divine differs from the Abhramic understanding. Also, I was not trying to say "my" God is better than someone else. If that's the vibe you got from my question, my apologies. But, that's not what I'm saying.

Whenever I read people post about Akaal Purakh, or when I read the translation (which we use) about Akaal Purakh. I keep getting this vibe of a sky god. And the way we speak of Akaal Purakh is not as a ultimate supreme entity that lives within each of us, and everything, but instead it sounds more like the way the Abrahamic's speak about God. Are we still stuck with the mentality of the colonisers, in which we had to speak their language and interpret/frame gurmat to fit the understanding of the colonisers? Please share your views and opinions.

I don't think the panth needs to anything. My issue with this topic is how we are telling women what to do, and how we evaluate if someone is a sikh. If a women wishes to keep complete kes that's cool. If she does not, than that is also cool. We should not be making statement to reduce women to a rehat that I believe was only intended for Singhs. We should support all and not put one above another. This may be a reason why some women feel excluded from the qaum. What about bodybuilder, or people who hit the gym everyday, or people who practice martial arts. Don't you think there body doesn't change as well. That's a huge generalisation of people.

Hukam and karma is not the same for everyone. I agree with suffer based on our actions in our previous life. But, does that mean we should stay silent and accept it. As we like using hypothetical question. Let me use this one. What response would you give to a child who is being abused? Should we tell the kid to accept it, and if they run off they are escaping their punishment. Honestly, this response so silly and absurd. We suffer from our past actions, but it doesn't mean we sit and fully accept. We are allowed to seek help, guidance or choose what path is best for us. If the sister is in some sort self-conscious on her appearance than I think she should do what's best for her. Who are we to say what she can and cannot do. Also, if I'm clear I believe keeping kes is applied to singh's. A silly hypothetical statement. The use of this statement is to provoke emotions. Also, if you ask me to imagine what Maharaj would say, you are asking me to use my mat (manmat) How would you know? In the shabad you've mentioned in your post, it speaks of those who decorate their body to please Sri Akaal Purakh. Maharaj has made it clear that the will of Satguru is naam simran. How many times had Maharaj talked about simran and bhagti. We already know that the Divine lives within this vessel. So ask Sikhs or those who practise dharam seek to purify the soul and consciousness. What credit does she get? Sikhi is about bhagti, not I keep my kes so I am a great sikh.

I know I am late to the party but this thread is a great highlight of what is the current state of the panth. We have lost sight of dharam, we have lost sight of spirituality. Instead we have turned in to a religion. Rather than taking this topic with an open mind, we have become more like "what is haram, and what is halal" "what is a sin, and what is not". Like bruh. Rather than exploring this topic we pretty much end it with silly hypothetical questions.

Will that prevent the smell of hair?

Exactly.

Ok, well I've asked one about kes, so I might as well as one about pictures of Satguru Sahib. I have many images (artists depiction) of mahraj. I would like to know how can I dispose of the images, or to cremate them respectfully. Some of the images, are from the Sikh Directory which I got like 10 years ago, some images are from a goodie bag, I got from BOSS at uni (I honestly didn't know they will include art depicting the Guru) etc. Thanks.

Quite simply, how does one cremate their kes once it has fallen out. I am not an amritdhari, regardless I would prefer to cremate my kes rather than throwing it out. I live in a flat, so I'd prefer to do it in the comfort of my own home, and by myself. What, and how do I go about doing this? What paath does one recite? How can I prevent the smell of burning hair? How do I do this in a flat? If you have any more information than please do tell. Thanks.

Back to my original question. We've gone of topic. Sorry.

Hahahahahahaha. This one ^^^^ I agree. I honestly think we have diminished the idea of a bhramgyani to just about anything. The modern quality of a "mahapurakh" is someone who wears white kurta, do kirtan (not even in raag), can do katha and make the entire veechaar seem so "spiritual", can tell the sangat do jaap "Vaheguru" and wears a flimsy "kirpan". To me a bhramgyani is one who's presences can just make you do naam abyaas without even speaking (e.g. Bhramgyani Baba Nand Singh). I keep my life simple, it's guru above all, and I listen to those who push me towards bhagti.

Not per the consensus of the weak and fragile minded person.

It's hilarious how Bollywood can never seem to find a sikh to play the role of a sikh. I've got nothing against Amir Khan, or his choice to play a sikh. It's just that I have only seen non Sikhs, play the role of Sikhs. However, I must admit I don't want Bollywood movies any more. Sooo