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  1. I'll ask you the same question I asked convert1: but how do you reconcile the fact that the founder of your new religion allowed rape(of Banu Mustaliq tribe), consummated a marriage with a 9 year old child which is pedophilia, beheaded prisoners of war(banu Quraiza tribe), even allowed torture, killed an old woman poet who had criticized him? I'm not trying to criticizing you, but I just want to understand the psychology of why a normal person would willingly convert to a religion whose founder committed all these crimes while the Sikh Gurus committed no such crime. I don't mean to off
  2. Do you have to be a behangam to study with Baba Jee?
  3. Your the one who again tried to promote some anti Sikh theory but as usual it only ended up back firing like that abortion and Banda Singh Bahadur topics you started. You started off in this topic trying present a half baked theory that this Bani was not included in Sri Dasam Granth because of a mistranslated Tukh which in fact lumps Hindus with the Muslims while promoting the teesar Panth Khalsa Dharm as being triumphant over them. As for the mentioning of Hindu deities, well if Mr Das's way of interpreting scriptures is to be used, then those are not really the names of Hindu deities bu
  4. Which one of the Sikh intellectuals that I have mentioned are semi literates? and why do you insist on only considering non-practicing Sikhs as Sikh intelligentsia? the reason I mentioned Swami Nithiananda, Asaram is because they are practicing Hindu Gurus who are supported by respected Hindu writers and leaders
  5. Veere, I don't know of this bani is authentic as it is not in Dasam Granth. But why sugar coat it and give it some alternative meaning? It is clearly written in this composition that Vedas, Shastars, Purans, Mandirs of the Hindus and the circumcision, Azaan and Quran, Masjids of the Muslims will be destroyed while the Khalsa Dharm will prevail everywhere. Personally this does not fit my world view because Khalsa has come to protect all whether they are Hindus or Muslims not destroy them.
  6. Very true. I don't understand how RSS tries to promote this tukh by mistranslated it but in other parts of the Bani it is written how the Khalsa will destroy the Vedas, Purans, Shastars and Mandirs. If these are all destroyed what Hindu Dharm will be left? This composition promotes the superiority of the teesar panth-Khalsa Dharm over the other two Dharms i.e. Hinduism and Islam.
  7. I would not trust the site above. I will not say much about him but he promotes non Sikh practices.
  8. I would say the correct Vishram on this tukh is as follows: ਜਗੈ ਧਰਮ, ਹਿੰਦੁਕ, ਤੁਰਕਨ ਦੁੰਦ ਭਾਜੈ Which will translate as the (Khalsa) Dharm will prevail, (and) the Hindus, the Turks will be in flight. So there is a comma on the last three words but the meaning I gave will still remain.
  9. The translation above is not correct. This is a mistranslated done and promoted by RSS. The correct translation is: ਸਕਲ ਜਗਤ ਮੋ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਪੰਥ ਗਾਜੈ ॥ ਜਗੈ ਧਰਮ, ਹਿੰਦੁਕ ਤੁਰਕਨ ਦੁੰਦ ਭਾਜੈ ॥ Throughout the world the Khalsa Panth will be prominent. The (Khalsa) Dharm will prevail and the Hindus and Turks will be banished The Vishram(comma) should be placed after Dharm not after Hindak as the translator has wrongly done. The Hindak and Turkan is grouped together as the two Panths that the Khalsa(the teesar panth mentioned in the preceding Tukh) will banish as the Khalsa will become prominent through
  10. Like I said, instead of worrying about our intelligentsia why not worry about your intelligentsia like Babu Asaram, Swami Nithiananda, Ashok Singal etc. If your people revere them, you should be the last person on earth to point fingers at our intelligentsia.
  11. Examples of a few Sikh intelligentsia are: Sants of Bhindranwale Sampradah Bhai Kahn Singh Nabha Bhai Vir Singh Prof Sahib Singh Giani Harbans SIngh Akali Kaur Singh Piara Singh Padam Pandit Kartar Singh Dhakha Prof Puran Singh Dr Harbhajan Singh You are naming common Kathakars and now even politicians and presenting them as Sikh intelligentsia. I think you should worry more about Hindu intelligentsia such as Bapu Asaram, Swami Nithiananda, Ashok Singhal, Raj Thakre, and the general Hindu writers and politicians who support their actions before worrying about Sikh intellig
  12. No one considers these men as "Sikh intelligentsia". And Dhadrianwala and Pinderpal are Kathakars. Moranwali is a Dhadhi. We have Sikh intelligentsia.
  13. No, that's Jeonwala. Ghagha was a worker in the Bijli Board.
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