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  1. you guys dont worship them but every puratan sikh did... look at every sikh palace there is a mandir.. dont try to learn history from fools coming from low families of no rank and import. ask any old important sikh family. this all changed when the brits colonized low castes and relegated them to the inferior state they find themselves in today. look at the forts and histories of sikh leaders and you will see they were typical hindu sikhs...
  2. 1. They aren't fake gods and goddesses, if thats what you think then you have to re-read gurbani and reassess your claims. 2. The rajputs, despite many having matrimonial ties to mughals, were not cowards. Cowards don't fight wars left, right and centre. To understand indian history you have to look at every region's royal family's history and understand the anarchic environment and the realpolitik that structured their actions. For instance, Patiala and Jaipur helped Abdali when he invaded India. The Hindu Jats of Bharatpur helped the Marathas (albeit not militarily). The same Jats had
  3. Mughal world doesnt necessarily mean "islamic" world. Akbar founded his own religion deen-i-illahi (religion of god) and he fused islamic teachings with hinduism. Afghans and Bengali Muslim Kings rebelled including his own godfather Bairam Khan. During this period Dhulla Bhatti and his Bhatti kinsmen were also rebelling against Akbar. Bairam Khan was defeated by Rana Udho Singh Ghorewaha of Machiwara and Raja Maan Singh a kinsmen of Udho Singh went on to pass the khyber and defeat the afghans that had risen in revolt. Raja Maan Singh became the governor of Kabul for several years following his
  4. Thakur Jorawar Singh, was the eldest son of Thakur Shardul Singh, the ruler of Jhunjhunu. He was born at Kant, married and had children. He died in 1745. He built Jorawargarh fort (which later on served as a Prison/Jail) and presently houses some Govt. offices in the city of Jhunjhunu. He was the ancestor of the families of Chowkari, Taen, Malsisar, Mandrella, Dabri Dheer Singh, Gangiyasar, etc. Another Rajput noble of Kanoata was named Thakur Zorawar Singh but he was quite recent. Dont forget the hindu dogra rajput Zorawar Singh Kahluria. Fateh Singh, Ajit singh have commonly b
  5. In January 1841 Sher Singh, son of Ranjit Singh, tried to seize the throne of Lahore but was repulsed by the Jammu brothers. The defence of the fort was in the hands of Gulab Singh. According to his European artillery commander Alexander Gardner: "The Dogras on the walls began to look over and were jeered at by Sher Singh’s troops, the little fort was surrounded by a sea of human heads. Gulab Singh made contemptuous replies, and roared out to Sher Singh, demanding that he should surrender... With a wild yell some 300 Akalis swept up the Hazuri Bagh and crowded into the gate. Just at that
  6. Raja Jagat Chand saw to it that the state reached the zenith of its prosperity and his name is, even now, remembered with pride and respect. The Raja, at the head of 14,000 Rajputs raised in his own country, conducted a most difficult but successful enterprise against the Uzbeks of the Balkh and Badakhshan provinces of Afghanistan. They stormed mountain passes, made forced marches over snow, constructed redoubts by their own labour, the Raja himself taking an axe like the rest, and bore up against the tempests of that frozen region as firmly as against the fierce and repeated attacks of the Uz
  7. Towards the end of 1586, the Mohmand and Ghoria tribes in Peshawar rose in rebellion under one Jalaluddin 'Jalalah' Taraki. The Brahman, Birbal, could not suppress it nor could the Khatri Vaishya, Todarmal, and Taraki continued to create trouble; but the operations of Raja Maan Singh Kachawaha aided by Rawat Gopal Das of Nindar against the Taraki tribe induced even the Orakzais and Afridis into submission. Rawat Gopal Das severed the head of one Katloo Khan during a pitched battle which took place in the Kunar Valley. Raja Jagat Singh Pathania would later be sent to chastise Jalalah's youn
  8. The last comment is citing a reference that is not accurate or factual. There have been many alliances between pashtuns and indians over the centuries and here is an important quote from an afridi pathan (might be another tribe but a sardar nevertheless) to maharaja of jaipur: “My tribe has been connected with your august family from olden times. My ancestors, through the patronage and mediation of the late Maharajah Maan Singh, became mansabdars of the Emperor. I wish to present myself before you, enter your service and thus manifest our old devotion.” – Bhai Khan Maral The Mughal n
  9. as far as being soldiers goes, i would say ranghars would defeat sikhs at any time.. its only because of internal divisions amongst ranghars that sikhs were able to defeat them anyways as tribes fought by themselves and when you look at indo-pak wars thats simply because of indian military superiority in all fields of comparison. if you actually compared a malwai lalu and majhail in his personal setting (his pind) to a ranghar in pakistan... there is a world of a difference and the ranghar is vastly superior to the eastern punjabi in terms of courage, bravery and anakh. sikhs are a very cheap
  10. thing is. most of you people dont step out of your khoos and talabs so you just stay in punjab. most punjabis are shit scared of visiting bihar and areas like chambal. hell, jatts cant even step to rajputs in nawanshahr or himachal. wherevere there are rajputs in punjab its held by them. look at pathankot or nawanshahr. the malwai is nothing but talk like the brars in bhangus story. one sikhi lost the mohyal brahmins, the khatris and rajputs, sikhi never formed a potent political alternative ever again.
  11. mind you the bhayyas that conquered lahore darbar were bhumihar brahmins and thakurs not yadavs or other shudra castes of bihar... you can go to bihar and see for yourself who the bhumihar brahmins are and the rajputs... they are very belligerent and haughty. the most dangerous states in india are UP MP and Bihar i would say. the gujjars, brahmins and rajputs of these states have produced many dacoits and brigands and can still overrun punjab if the need was to arise today.
  12. a handful of rajput kingdoms fought the sikhs, the only proper cases you can cite are attacks at anandpur... most of the other battles that took place between sikhs and rajputs consisted of sikhs vastly outnumbering the rajput tribes they were at war with. the only times rajputs outnumbered sikhs was at anandpur attack. all battles after that were just pathetic and typical sheep vs lion or slaves vs master fights. look at other cases where sikhs fought against jaipur... or maybe look at the fact that many rajputs actually became sikh themselves. regardless of that, ghorewaha rajputs have defea
  13. Sikhs can't read or understand history hence they are extremely pathetic at politics. Numbers don't lie, Sikhs history can't even amount to rathore history... Don't even bother trying to compare yourselves to other tribes and rajputs as a whole. Perhaps the rajputs at chamkaur and raikot and himachal and bangla sahib should have let the gurus get murdered by the mughals....
  14. Sikhs today are a joke as a community due to the fact that people like amardeep can't even read history properly. Hence you see the whole kom at the feet of various nations.
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