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Christianization of Sikhi, i.e taking 4 dharam of each varan, combining to one. Each varan lrft with a philosophy that is changed by Christian 19th century committees + a secular culture. Secular meaning christian version of sufi islam. Old practices like jhatka, dasam bani discarded, overall basically consumerist christianity now.

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Hindu Shahi Rajas sacrificed three generations fighting muslims. So did our 10th guru, For what? Some cartoon Panjabi to learn enflish only, cut hair and mingle with goris??

It's like abdali at panipat, all the musliks camped together while we (marathas and allies) were in separate camps. Abdali was very happy at this, whst else to say? You can say the one Sardar (not sikh) should have held back and protected toap khanna. But it is symptom of bigger problem. How long did it take after 10th guru sahib for infighting? Baba Banda Singh Ji aka only few years. We have 600million muslims, and 100s of millions more christian and seculars. How do you even destroy that many? It can be done I guess but afterwards all the goras will come and swallow you. Just like British after Panipat.

You are correct, we have a demographic crisis and these people don't wanna wake up. You're have another partition, with tamil, kerala, w. bengal, Andhra and most if not all of n.e gone or cut off. 3 ne states are already full christian and one is half. Bangladesh will absorb them all, Nepal they say is already 20% and indo gangetic plane is not far from that. Maharastra, Rajasthan, MP, Gujurat are there but if you lose Indo Gangetic you are done. Already problems in W. Bengal, just need Punjab to Ignite and Pakistan can take whole plain. -- Indian army is fighting for secular India aka Muslims. Pakistan is too, This is why Indian Muslims so happy. The more you tell these 'hindus' these thungs the more they move away from you and treat you as an outcaste. The Sikhs want to argue about meat and female equality. Hindus want to destroy entire culture and become a global 'religion' how they try to portray Sikhs. -- Development of educational and internet infrastructure msy have saved us, but south just milked the north. Fake Aryan Invasion theory and now north has nothing south ready to accept islam/christianity and fight us. Will be partition and new India will be pressured to give half army to dravidistan and be left weak for ISIS, Pak and China. What way id there out of it? NRIs with money can't go there and set up anything because goondas loot it. People don't even look at the next village, and don't act until problem at door by then too late. -- Our own think they can build cannons and swords in the jungles and fight Pak Fa and F-22. I read on twitter that Pakistan sent beef to Nepal and that everything is cooked in Nankana Sahib with beef oil and fat. Yet khalistani want to shout Pakistan Balle Balle like Prof Amarjit Singh. Is this divine plan as it says in Swaya Chand, Dasam Granth Sahib or is there a way out?? You don't even have varnasharm dharam anymore, which was a good system. Just needless tribalism and infighting. If you want to keep gotr for marriage and historical purposes, go ahead. What is point of put chmara de put jatt da. Fact is if a Jatt is a ksytria and chamar a shudr, a marasee is neither and that's all a singer is.

Destruction of Indic Civilization in Central Asia The general perception that India and China never had any historical conflicts is flawed, and in part is the fantasy of communists. While the past relationships between India and China have been better than what we see today, we should keep in mind that Chinese have played a major role in destroying Indic cultures of Central Asia and have even led direct invasions of India with the help of the Tibetans and attempted to seize mainland Indian territory. I shall outline briefly the historical conflicts between China and India starting from the destruction of the satellite Indic civilizations in the Tarim region prior to the foundation of the Uighur Khanate. In 615 AD, the 3 Central Asian kingdoms of Kucha, Agni (later Qara Shahar) and Khotan were islands of the Indic civilization in the Tarim Basin. They were at the pinnacle of their power and prosperity and were great centers of Sanksritic learning, producing a variety of texts on buddhist and classical hindu philosophies. These regions were like mini-Indias, with Buddhism, Zoroastrianism and Hinduism being practiced by its citizens and were actively maintained by the flourishing trade along the Silk Road. The Middle Indo-Aryan language, Niya Prakrit was used as the language of administration. Kuchas rulers belonged to the suvarNa dynasty and its ruler suvarNa puShpa had signed a treaty of non-aggression with the Chinese emperor Yang-ti. In 630, the famous Chinese traveler, Xuan Zang had passed through Kucha and Agni and was warmly welcomed by the rulers. The new king of Kucha, suvarNadeva renewed the non-aggression pact with Tai-tsung, the son of heaven, the expansionist Chinese emperor. In all likelihood Xuan Zang was also acting as a spy to the emperor and providing him intelligence regarding these Indic Kingdoms. Shortly after Xuan Zang passed through this region, Tai-tsung decided to swallow these kingdoms, without much of a warning. In 632 he asked to Tarim kingdoms to humbly accept his suzerainty- fearing an attack they sent token embassies to please the Emperor. However, realizing that the Chinese were advancing a vast army into the region in 640 AD, the king of Agni, formed an alliance with the Turko-Mongol Khanate of the Tuchueh or the Blue Turks, and prepared to face the Chinese troops. Tai-tsung sent his general Kuo Hiao-ko to invade Agni and destroy it. Seeing the Turks and the Agnians massing to face the Chinese troops, Kuo cleverly marched towards Yulduz, causing the defenders to lower their guard. Then at night, he made a lightning march back to Agni and attacked the city from an undefended direction at dawn. The king was killed in the battle and Agni was captured and placed under the Chinese agent Lipo-chuen. However, in 644 the surviving prince of Agni, with the help of the Tuchueh Khan and SuvarNadeva of Kucha slew Lipo-chuen and re-conquered his kingdom from the Chinese. Emperor Tai-tsung now decided to systematically destroy the Tarim kigdoms and entrusted the task to his son-in-law and greatest general, Ashina Shoyuel Khan. Ashina Shoyuel was a Turko-Mongol Khan from the Gobi who had by marriage become the commander-in-chief of the imperial Chinese troops and had the all the martial ruthlessness of his tribe. In 646 AD SuvarNadeva of Kucha passed away and was replaced by his brother HaripuShpa. Taking advantage of this new Kings relative inexperience, Ashina attacked right away with an army of nearly 100000 comprised of Chinese regulars, Turko-Mongol mounted archer divisions and light advance raiders comprising of Toelech Turks. He was accompanied by the veteran Chinese general Kuo Hiao-ko, who led the Chinese regulars. The Tarim kingdoms had a frontline light cavalry comprised of the Turko-Mongol hordes of the Chumi and Chuyuh Khans, the center comprised of the heavy cavalry under Haripushpa and his general Narayana and the rear guard of the Tuchueh Mongols. Ashina struck first by drawing the Chumi and Chuyuh khans to attack near Kucheng and then retreating drawing them into an ambush of the heavy Chinese divisions that massacred them. Taking advantage of this head start he boldly attacked Kucha in a frontal assault. Haripushpa tried to relieve the city by a direct charge on the Chinese center after dispersing the Toelech Turks. Ashina Shoyuel however, weighed in with his mounted archers and turned the battle in his favor. NArAyaNa decided to save the king and led him safely to the fort of Aksu. Ashina pursued him and layed siege to the fort even as Kuo Hiao-ko occupied Kucha. NArAyaNa with the Tuchueh Turko-Mongols and monetary aid from Indian vaishyas, suddenly attacked Kucha and broke through the Chinese ranks slaying Kuo Hiao-ko and took back the city. In the meantime Ashina stormed Aksu and captured Haripushpa and decapitated all inhabitants of the city. He then attacked Kucha and slaying nArAyaNa, depopulated the city and its satellite towns and burnt them down. Ashina then marched on Agni that had already been weakened by the defeats a Kucha, beheaded its king, and depopulated the city. He then sent his deputy Wan-pei to besiege Khotan and devastate its surroundings the cavalry divisions of the Toelech Turks. The King of Khotan of the maNgala clan, seeing the fate of Agni and Kucha surrendered his kingdom to the Chinese. The Ashina Shoyuel returned to China and dragged Haripushpa on the floor before Tai-Tsung and placed him at his foot. He was later beheaded. Thus, the Tarim basin passed from the Indian cultural zone to the yoke of the Chinese. All traces of Indic civilization in this region were subsequently erased with the conquest of this region from the Chinese by the Tibetan hordes, followed by its conquest by the great Blue Turk Khakhans of Mongolia. References: Chavannes Documents (translation of the Tang Shu) Levi: Fragment des textes koutcheens Grousset: Empire of the Steppes Frye: Heritage of Central Asia. von Gabain: Die uigurische Uebersetzung der biographie Huen-tsangs. [x] close

What is a Sikh? If it is someone who follows first nine gurus that is kuch of north. If it is 10th master then how is someome who carries 3 inch kirpan but does job in office a Singh? Regardless of Jaat you born into, Varan is by Karam. Certain Jaati have traits more suitable for certain varan but, How is some Jatt or Tarkhan who wears small pagg, 2.5" blunt instrument a Singh or Khalsa Sikh? Only a shastar bearing ksytria is and 99% don't fit definition. Not about spreading your 'religion' it's about being honest. If you lie you set yourself up for worse fall later. Just look at USA/UK

This is why it is good the foreign thought is being opposed by the Indian population at large. In 1990s there was one ngo for every 2000 Indians now it is 200. However, 4500 were banned few weeks ago double that last week. And ten times that number yesterday. I am happy and glad that it took whites four centuries to gain foothold, seventy for us to kick them and now we are fighting back after being told for seventy years that we have no history or achievements.

They use milk because the Christian whites have only made milk replacements due to their lack of milk, not superiority. We had this discussion last year about cleaning floor of darbar sahib with milk. The chemical cleaners would kill the fish and ruin the marble. The approximate 10 to 1 water milk ratio was also ignored by the ngo environmentalist posting it.

Mahavir was passing through a village with his disciple, Goshalak -- who later became his opponent -- when they came across a small plant, and Goshalak said to Mahavir: "Listen, here is a plant. What do you think? -- will it grow to produce a flower, or will it die before it can flower? What is its future?" Mahavir immediately closed his eyes and sat in front of the plant. Goshalak cunningly said: "Do not avoid the issue. What will happen by closing your eyes?" He did not know why Mahavir had become silent and closed his eyes -- that he was looking for the essential. It was necessary to go deep down into the being, into the soul of that plant. Without doing so, it would not be possible to say what was going to happen. After a while Mahavir opened his eyes and said: "This plant will survive to flower." Goshalak immediately pulled the plant up by its roots, threw it away and laughed mockingly. There was no better way to refute Mahavir's statement. Mahavir had nothing more to say now, because Goshalak had uprooted the plant and thrown it away as a challenge. He was laughing, Mahavir was smiling, and they continued their journey. Then it began to rain heavily. There was a storm, and for seven days continuously torrential rains fell, so they were not able to go out for seven whole days. When the rains had subsided and they were returning, on the way they reached the same spot where seven days previously Mahavir had closed his eyes to know the inner being of the plant. They saw that the plant was again standing with its roots in the ground. Due to the heavy rains and winds, the earth had become wet and loose, and the roots of the plant had dug in. Mahavir again closed his eyes and stood beside the plant. Goshalak became very embarrassed -- he had uprooted and thrown away the plant. When Mahavir opened his eyes, Goshalak said: "I am surprised and confused. I uprooted this plant and threw it away, and it is growing again." Mahavir replied: "It will survive to flower. I closed my eyes to see the inner potentiality and the condition of the seed: whether it was capable of taking root again even though it was uprooted, whether it was suicidal or not, whether it had a strong instinct or desire for death. If its instinct was suicidal it would have used your help to die. I wanted to see whether it was yearning to live; if it was determined to live, it would live. I knew that you were going to uproot it and throw it away." Goshalak asked: "What are you saying?" Mahavir said: "When I was looking into the inner being of the plant with my eyes closed, I also saw you standing by, determined to uproot it. I knew that you would uproot the plant. That is why it was necessary for me to know the inner capacity of the plant to live, how much self-confidence and willpower it had. If it was waiting to die and looking for an excuse, you would have been excuse enough for it to die; otherwise, the uprooted plant would take root again." Goshalak lacked the courage to uproot the plant again. He was afraid. Previously Goshalak had gone laughing to the village; this time, Mahavir walked ahead smiling. Goshalak then asked: "Why are you smiling?" Mahavir said: "I was watching and just thinking about your capability -- whether you could uproot the plant a second time or not." Goshalak said: "You could see whether I would do it or not?" Mahavir replied: "It was nonessential. You might have uprooted it, you might not have uprooted it. But it was essential and unavoidable that the plant still wanted to live. Its whole being, its whole vitality wanted to live. That was essential. What was nonessential was your throwing it away or not, and that was dependent on you. But you have proven weaker and less determined than the plant. You have been defeated." -

It is when ksytria lay down their arms and pretend to be bramins. I.e in west up there are Sikhs sitting in gurudawaras reading bani discussing whether meat is allowed, and if using alcohol to disinfect a wound makes them apostates. Meanwhile in the next village some low caste girl is being targeted by gangs of Muslims because the upper castes are too caught in materialism to do their duties.

Women were never made equal, that is post 1857 lie. 2 different things cannot be equal, guru sahib just said to treat them fairly. Something many people of that time did not do, there is no monogamy either EVER in Indian history.

Yes, 'evolution' means giving up your culture, ideas, dharam (religion) and following goras. Well, I guess I'll go way of dinosaur but dinosaurs never had toap. ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ|ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਹਿ| |

No. ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ|ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਹਿ| |

" I hate the very physique of a Sikh because of the turban and beard. " (Vallabh Bhai Patel, late Indian top politician) "... a threat to the villagers that all males would be killed and their women taken to army camps to breed a new race if there was any militant activity in their village." (Brig. R. P. Sinha, Indian Army, March 8, 1991) "You do not know the might of our armed forces. We will eliminate 10,000 Sikh youths and the world will know nothing about it." (Chander Shekhar, former Prime Minister of India, CK, 21st October, 1991) Lol why are they making empty threats? Why don't they try to do half this shit. ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ|ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਹਿ| |

All of this talk of gurmukh manmukh etc is all hogwash anyway from bramins in chitta kurta blue pagg aka gyani types. If u walk path of Sikhi you are Sikh, if you don't you are giddar. End of. ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ|ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਹਿ| |

You don't own any land why do you care? Stay out of zamindar affairs, or you will get hurt. My family has old jagir.. ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਹਿ।।

Mona is not Sikh. We are not going to start race mixing our community because you western kuttas of jews think it cool. We didn't for centuries under guru sahib and neither did they. Go bark in some other ally, dog. You are some muslim paid to cause fight between different Sikh quoms. What talwaar? No talwaar sant will ever avcept you as equal, you are slave of scissor. ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਹਿ।।

Even keeree who worship akal puraakh is higher than you garbage. And no way you are from village in Punjab. We leave your head bleeding with siriya any Sikh jaat beat life out of you. Stay out of our raaj ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਹਿ।।

Party is bhappa baniya dharm sorry don't bring that garbage here. Sikhi is religion of warrior we follow till death. ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਹਿ।।

Your dirty delhi was founded by dhillon jatts. We sikhs consider you bramins lowest, jaats are not jatts. I will piss on your idols. With guru sahib kirpa even shudra is high caste, you are dirty bodi wala and girls of your family are known for being loose. But you are obviously paid, so keep doing job RAW dog Starch Pagg Santali Tarkhan Di Pitth Tay Dunali Pavay aam ramgarhia gaddar Eh hai Sukhay Singh Ki Aulaad

Bitter is an emotion, sometimes truth itself has to be spoken.

Who is we, you are a bramin not a warrior. You have no say in politics either way, you just have a false image constructed by the British after 1857. How long you think it will hold? lol It's already gone everywhere but up to Delhi.

Why are you even speaking of Rajputs or Marathas? You are a beggar bramin.

No, that is a conquered community. Too bad, it's written in your own religious books that it will never get to that point. Shalom, and true there is no comparison Jews have done many wicked deeds, Singhs have to contend with wicked people like Sherni. ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ|ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਹਿ| |