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  1. I was so confused (even little bit still now) on this concept of panch shabad.With Maharaj's kirpa I just found this.It's a short story about Gurmukh pyaarey Bhai Randhir Singh and we can learn ,we can make our doubts clear. Dhan Guru sahib! Dhan Guru sahib's Sikhi!! Radhasoamis and Yogis claim that the Anhad Shabad are 5 in number and they use Gurbani Shabads containing "Panch Shabad" to prove their point that there are 5 kinds of Anhad Shabad. The word "Panch" also means superior or great. "Panch Shabad" actually means superior or celestial Shabads that Gurmukhs hear when their Dasam Duaar opens up. Below is a very interesting story from Bhai Sahib's life, and that sheds a great deal on Anhad Shabads. This Saakhi has been taken from Bhai Sahib's book "Anhad Shabad Dasam Duaar". It's not a direct translation. Once a gursikh came to Bhai Sahib and started talking about Anhad Shabad. He said that he could now clearly hear the bell ring, sometimes the roaring of clouds and even a flute. He wanted to confirm his spiritual state with Bhai Sahib. Bhai Sahib in response to his question said that he did not hear any of these voices and sounds i.e. instrumental sounds. At this he got greatly disheartened. Bhai Sahib asked him what exactly he was doing while doing abhyaas. He said that he had a black dot on the wall for dhyaan (concentration) and he does one Siri Sukhmani Sahib paath looking at the dot. Then he kept his mind quiet and tried to listen to the five kinds of celestial sounds (as written by Yogis and Radhasoamis). After a while he started hearing faint sounds of ringing bells, waterfall, flute etc. The black dot too illuminated and this really motivated him and he started thinking that he was listening to Anhad Shabad. Bhai Sahib did not doubt what he was telling because Bhai Sahib knew that this person was telling the truth. Bhai Sahib told him that they would discuss this again the next day. That day at night Bhai Sahib sat in Smadhi and tried to hear the five sounds this person was mentioning. He could not hear anything other than Gurmat Anhad Shabad (Sifat Salaah that occurs in Sachkhand). From this high spiritual state, Bhai Sahib brought down his surtee to a much lower level and he was surprised to hear that all five sounds that the Gursikh had mentioned could be heard at different levels. Bhai Sahib has written that there was not even 1/millionth anand or bliss in these instrumental sounds as compared to the Gurmat Anhad Shabad. Bhai Sahib had never delved in these mystical realms since they were at a much lower level as compared to Gurmat Dasam Duar. Bhai Sahib came out of smadhi and immediately went to that gursikh who had asked this question from Bhai Sahib and told him that he was totally engaged in wrong anti-Gurmat practices. Bhai Sahib narrated to him about his experience and told him that little bit of concentration that he had was a result of Siri Sukhmani Sahib paath and he started hearing those instrumental sounds. Bhai Sahib said that these spiritual realms were lower than the lofty spiritual realms of Gurmat. Bhai Sahib told him that Gurmat Anhad Shabad is way superior to the 5 so called Anhad Shabads. From this saakhi of Bhai Sahib we learn that these five shabads that Radhasoamis talk about do exist but they are not attained by the way they work in it. Actually these five shabads are the invention or discovery of Yogis and RS has just adopted their theory. Gurmat does not believe in limited 5 shabads. Panch Shabad in Gurbani does not mean 5 Shabad but Panch means superior or greatest shabads. Gurmat believes in “Vajae Shabad Ghanaray” i.e. countless shabads and not only 5. Bhul Chuk dee Maafi jee. The above is based on Bhai Sahib's book - Anhad Shabad Dasam Duaar.
  2. I 'm too talking from my personal experience.In beginning,I used to cry a lotttt.I dont know why it happens but it really happens of its own.Now,when I'm in divan or in sangat,then I somehow control myself.But when I'm doing simran alone at home,then sometime it goes too much.I cannot tell that how much I cry. So what really makes me cry?? Well,I dunno much,as it happens of its own,but main things that come in my mind is my ignorance towards akal purkh.Real inner images comes right before my eyes.What I really am!! The Biggest Manmukh ever!! That days I've wasted without any naam kamai or without remembering akal purkh.Then,Mind speaks what I've earned?? Nothing yet! All pains or sorrows which are part of my life in any form are only because I'm seperated from supreme.Mind says that sukh/pleasure/bliss you are in search of, is only and only in meeting with supreme.Then Why are you crying? You're going to cry for your whole life,if you dont get a chance.Then Mind says No I've nothing for what I can be rewarded.Then crying becomes even more.The main reason is The thought of being skeptic.Mind says will I be saved? Will I get a chance?? At same other time,mind says you're under guidance of SGGSJ ,at home of Guru Nanak Maharaj.Then mind says that day will certainly come.So that feeling (whether it's for few min) as If I've achieved that stage of union, asks mind to cry/shout as loud as possible in joy ,asks to say WAH!! Soul wants to experience this divine bliss,but when looks at herself,reminds that she is still alone,she is not with her purkh,then again starts crying.......But believe me after few days when you remember you were crying that you realise how tasteful was that!there is a bliss ,a unique taste in crying.And you want to cry again some other day,but that happens only when you're really realising your inner self..
  3. This is the point.I think yes these people are helpless ,but why these chosen people are helpless?? Because these are the souls who have no chance of meeting with supreme in their destiny.As Gurbani says only people of great good fortune who are already blessed by almighty, get a chance to have this meeting.So my view is we should not compare ourselves with them.They may be good people,they may have very close relations with divine ,but still what we call Ultimate achievement,(jot ch jot milna) ,cannot be achieved by such souls,who are killing creatures day and night. So,I think if we have fertile land,we have enough meal alternatives ,then why to be murderers? I think this is the reason the most of saints /avatars were born in India,and principles of Our spiritual ideology is to never kill/eat animals. So we are the souls,I would say special souls,under the guidance of SGGSJ and we should think about it rather than to compare with others like what they do/eat etc. So bottom line is "IF ONE WANTS TO DO BHAKTI,WANT TO ACHIEVE THE ULTIMATE BLISS,WANT TO BE ONE WITH DIVINE,THEY HE GOTTA LEARN TO SEE DIVINE IN EVERYTHING ELSE,SO SHOULD NEVER EVEN THINK TO KILL A LIFE ! ONLY THAT PERSON HAS RIGHT TO TAKE LIFE,WHO CAN GIVE LIFE TO SOMEONE.SO,I think an ordinary man CANNOT do so. So stop making excuses like plants have life too,we can kill in our own way or what if we cannot eat other things.Maharaj always helps a person/his sikh in whatever circumstance he is.
  4. Many many congratulations to you satkirin penji for amrit and your wedding!! Dhan Guru Sahib who bestowed his divine blessings upon you and accepted you as his child.May you have a great spiritual journey ahead and your spouse prove as your spiritual partner too!! Congrats!!
  5. Sodhi Srisht Sagal Taaran Kao Abb Gur Ramdass Kao Milli Badaii ||

    1. mahanpaapi

      mahanpaapi

      May HIS Blessings be upon you all.

    2. sukrit kaur

      sukrit kaur

      Guru Ramdass Rakhao Sarnaii ||

      WAHHH- HEE- GURUU!!!

  6. I use to read hukamnaama from darbar sahib on daily basis. If it's acceptable then I can post here,otherwise one can read from official sgpc website too.We can discuss these very maharaj's gurbani tuks here too. It would be a very learning task for everyone to discuss the daily hukamnaama and to give our own experiential views. Gur fateh!! P.s : I'm really enjoying this daily hukamnaama discussion with my own mind.It's like straight talk to guru maharaj himself.It's something unspoken.Every day there is new feeling of contentment.All questions are answered.Each day the bond of love with maharaj gets stronger.No more need to talk with others.Real contentment! Dhan Guru Ramdass Maharaj!!
  7. I'm really astonished at such things like eating meat,then eating eggs (proving the fact with the help of certain theories),nd then eating fish too?? I dont think if it's the real sikhism or real khalsa?? Some people have really changed the definition!! I dont think if it represents real NiHangs!! Dasam patsahii was himself an Akali Nihang!! But Now real meaning of Nihang is just modified!! No this is not the real khalsa!! Power of Gurbani,Other martial skills are quite enough to win any battle.. To eat such things/one's life to say that"it's important to do so in order to win a war"". I mean what's that?? Sorry it may hurt one's personal views,but these things are really out of my mind This is not right!!
  8. Gur fateh N30 veerji, I tried to send you PM for it,but now sharing it here: I wanted to add screenshots in a post,but couldnt! Can you please provide any ways to do so?
  9. Sorry I couldn't insert screenshots.Perhaps I'm not allowed to insert images.But one read it from link provided above. Read from page 23 onwards. Gur fateh!!
  10. Since it's always been a matter of discussion about Amrit on this forum,so I thought to share it with everyone. Really a very amazing reading by bhai Randhir singh ji.The Real meaning of Amrit is very well explained there.Will certainly give you a satisfactory explanation. One can read the entire book on : Meaning of Amrit-Bhai Randhir Singh on Scribd. Check it out: https://www.scribd.com/doc/124807897 I have taken screenshots from selected pages.Hope it rejoices your souls!!
  11. Here is one another amazing collection of bhai sahib.Though I've not read the whole document yet,but really a great reading.. "Undithhi Duniya-The mYstical Invisible world" Unditthi Duniya-Bhai Randhir Singh Ji on Scribd. Check it out: https://www.scribd.com/doc/124808160
  12. Sorry veer ji, I didnt mean that..That just made me little frightened.lol Yes ofcourse we shouldnt judge anyone by his physical appearance .
  13. Fifth patshayaee's furman: Raam naam jo jan japey andin sadd jaagey||That humble one who chants the lord's name,remains always awake and aware,night and day.Tant mant neh johaee tit chaakh Naa laagey || He is not affected by charms and spells,nor is he harmed by the evil eye.
  14. That image of black dressed person in the video is so scary..I dont want to touch that play button.. I think we should stay away from such kinda stuff.Maharaj is always there for their beloved ones ,so dont worry! And I think we shouldnt let our mind to waste its energy on such kinda things.
  15. I'm not sure what kinda noises you're talking about.But yes it has to do something with spiritual progress.Like when one does lot of saas graas simran then it starts happening of its own so then it makes sounds in abdominal region. My dad's grandfather was a very spiritual person.He used to do lot of simran and saas graas.Then in later years of his life,whenever he was on bed and was almost asleep,then sounds like guru-guru (very loud)were audible from his navel region. So they used to denote it as Nabhi chalna in punjabi. So I think yes it denotes high spiritual awastha,when simran has been done through ROm Rom and Now it's been a part of your soul. Really a high awastha I think!
  16. Koi Aavey Santo Har ka Jan Santo Mera Pritam Jan Santo Mohey Marg Dikhlaavey||

  17. Yes I think too.Sorry for earlier one! Yes it sounds like! But I think there is no religion basis at the home of jamdoots.lol!
  18. I think some fakirs like baba farid jee etc were not kesdhari(please do correct me as I dunno about it) ,so what about them? BHUL CHUK MAAF!!
  19. Satkirin Bhenji Ji, WJKK WJKF!! I want to say you very few lines: You/we are very lucky to be ones who are provided with a chance to read Nirankaars words/Gurbani/SGGSJ.. And now you've decided to take Amrit.I can't congratulate you in appropriate words for this.In the way you are exploring the things clearly shows your affection /love/curiosty towards Guru Maharaj. Bhenji, Let your doubts be cleared before you do your ceremony.But Dont allow yourself to indulge in an illusion.Just think what is waiting for you..Your one step gonna remove distance of miles b/ you and your Guru.These are just opposing forces which are trying to restrict your progress. Okay!! About Amrit: I think 5 panj pyaarey are physical representation of Guru Maharaj himself at the time.It's not like It's done after taking amrit.All depends upon spiritual awastha of panj pyaareys.Like in above saakhi light entered.I think the light entered because these males were spiritually enlightened ones.How can That divine jyot enters in a person with no spiritual qualities. All I want to say is that dont focus on gender of panj pyaareys like they must be men or women.Just pray these 5 souls must be True Gurmukhs who have done enough kamai in their lives.I read somewhere if One of panj pyaareys is a Brahmgyani,then you wilk have a very great spiritual journey.Just do ardaas again and again "Maharaj I want to be yours.I want to achieve what I couldnt achieve in previous lives.I'm not here to differentiate between men or women.I'm here to merge in nirankaar jyot.Please send me to these Great 5 singhs who can give me what I really need.I dont want to loose this chance.This seems to be my final chance.I'm moorkh/foolish one.I've no wisdom.How can I find true gurmukhs?It's you who will send them for me.O sachepatsh!! Dasam Patsah !! All is in your hands.please show mercy upon me and send these great 5 souls for me so that I enters in your home/my true home.please!! Do an arrangement for me..Kaal is running after me.I dun want to be eaten at his hands.Give me the true Naam and then give me courage to do kamai of that Naam.I want to enjoy sehaj anand as per your words: Anhad Shabad Dasam Dwaar Vajeyo ,teh Amrit Naam ChUaYa thaa (The unstruck sounds of the shabad vibrates and resounds in the tenth gate,the ambrosial Naam trickles down there) This is my only request to you" Certainly Maharaj will help you.
  20. I completely understand ur situation satkirin bhen ji.And The Hukamnaama you got clearly indicates Maharaaj's kirpa on you.This shabad has given me goose bumps.Dhan Dhan Dhan Guru sahib!! Akaal Hi Akaal!!
  21. Once I got a chance to talk to a very special soul.He just said me one thing: " kyi vaar asii jaana kite hor hunda par apni chanchlata kr k puj kite hor jaane a" These words are ringing in my head at the time. So,Never NEVER let your limited buddhi to conquer your mind. Dhan Guru Ram Dass Patsah baksh lo!!
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