sukrit kaur

First one somewhere clears that if a person is amritdhari,so whatever he is saying cannot be surely right,on other side if a non amritdhari giving his views then he may be right.So,it depends upon spiritual kamai or spiritual vivek.. Dhan baba nand singh ji!!

Yes I agree by it.Will try to talk to my teacher more on this matter.But yes harmonal changes can have adverse effects .Though with leading tech in medicine,it can be minimal,but that will not be suggested if there is any planning for pregnancy in future.

Guru Sahib while leaving his body,asked sikhs to talk to SGGS everytime in need..So whenever one has lost his way and then he gotta take instructions from Guru sahib. So I think Gurbani says NOT to look down upon anyone in any manner. Gurbani clearly states that any person who has love in his heart or spiritually enlightened person can meet Guru sahib at any time.To meet Guru sahib means He will def take Khande da amrit.but it doesnt mean that the person before having amrit was totally worthless.It was the worth of his kamai due to which he could take amrit...So I think that never look upon anyone by his physical appearance ...Gur fateh!!

Veer Ji why are you trying me to think that I'm saying this and this is wrong.Actually The entire post was for love towards GURU.,which definitely means that I was talking to have GUru in life.There are no rules ,that guru ji will only love that particular person .And NO PERSON IS BORN AS AMRITDHARI.You never know the person right now will be a great lover of Guru sahib and a great amritdhari.Try to get what I'm saying.Though I'm not good in expressing views,but Please dont take the matter in different angle. Gur fateh!!

To take khande da amrit is just like to step into boat which is going to sachkhand,but the point is one has to sail his own boat.But the people(non amritdhari) who are doing all paath,have high high sharda towards Guru sahib,have true love,live by gurbani are ones who just need to have their boat.But It doesnt mean that they gonna sink..No!! You never know when Guru Sahib himself comes and himself sail their boats.or they take khande da amrit and take their boats,Means They can be Real amritdharis in upcoming time. All is dependent upon sailing boats which is through spiritual kamai ,real progress.So to look down upon them is NOT right...

Another Negativity!!!!

Acc to me " Jatt" is one of the castes which have to face the harships of reservation quota system in India..lol..

Errrr...That's just the negativity of mind... This is the reason that new sikh generation thinks a lot when talking about spirituality. BTW it's really not right to create such definition of Sikhi.Afterall if a sikh will not allow other sikh( who is just trying to decide his path) to investigate his views ,then really it's a big sorry from me!!

That's a different scene.Nothing is comparable with this situation.This statement is just trying to misinterpret the quote.

As taking this scenario,the woman No one knows her personally ,no one knows about her spiritual life ,no one knows whether she has appropriate knowledge about Gurbani or not,nor she is in any western dress ,nor she conducted any shamless act, seems to be a non amritdhari sikh,then why to comment "she can't give her views" ??? This is not real sikhi.Guys such things/thoughts are somewhere contradicting the real definition of sikhi... Sorry!! Doesn't sound well!!

I'm sorry veer ji but You are too controversial with your mind.At same time you are saying that doors of satguru jee are open for everyone and at same time your saying that a non amritdhari sikh is not allowed to discuss GURBANI.That doesnt sound well . All matters is his /her knowledge to Gurbani,love for Guru Ji,his spiritual vichaars, (def not written on one's face or cannot be determined from physical appearance)and then such things come but in different aspect.

That's what I m saying.You too gave the answer.As you mentioned how a patit,meat eating man,mona ,roda person can be a beloved soul of sachepatsah,then it's worthless to account such things into frame.why to say that one is a mona so can't give his/her views.It's all his grace.A Kattar Sikh (by rehat etc,not spiritual grace) can lose his chance of meeting waheguru due to his false ego,while any mona or patit can have it if his spiritual vichaars are high...It's simple!! Clear!!

If one can do seva of degh or langar then what remains beside? Okay Veer Ji,let it take in context of GUrubani. We are all moorkhs . Please share any Gurbani tuk,or GURU sahib's Saakhi or any GURU SAHIB'S words which clearly claim that women are impure during menstruation??? It can really change the side of one's mind. Gur fateh!!

" To sit Tabiya ",here I totally agree!! To sit on tabiya one must be physically clean and to take atmic laha one must be spiritually clean..

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I think they didnt call police.And yes they were very very wrong in the way they talked to baba ji.But the point is Guru Nanak patsah has cleared everything in his shabads..What about it??,what about Gurbani??. This is just my question not only to you or sangat ,infact it's to my own mind too. Yes it's really something dirty but to dont let the environment dirty by it is too possible.and when talking about seva,spirituality or bhagti then it's a matter of soul not body..Why to put sooooo much importance to body than soul???? This thing is really controversial ,controversial with gurbani!!

To claim some things right which are no where mentioned in Gurbani and are even proved wrong is just a simple example of human ignorance or so called man made rules.To say no one can eat meat by giving man made reasons , by saying no women are not allowed to do seva during menstruation , or saying women can never be equal to men or saying a mona ,roda or patit can NEVER meet guru sahin or to say to take amrit is just the beginning and the end or to say non amritdhari can never be loved by Guru sahib or to say this particular jathebandi/sect is not group of guru's sons are ALL man made rules....GURBANI is definitely not this!!!!!!!

Very next lines: ITT MAARG PAIYR THAREEJEY(when one places his feet on this path) SIRR DHEEJEY KAN NA KEEJEY(then he gives his head,and do not pay attention to "PUBLIC OPINION".. Here public opinion may include all MAN MADE RULES and superstitions. Gur fateh!!

Omg!!Really that should not happen!! This is a big shame for entire sikh community.and really this should nt be such a serious matter to call the police.

Please give me a quote from Gurbani where it is mentioned..and yes you may be right...But if love in her heart is true towards Satguru ji,then surely waheguru ji will himself allow her to do seva irrespective of her day of menstural cycle.

Yes These things are dirty.But Hygiene is too a thing.Hygienic measures also matter.As man going to do paath after washing body or doing his attempts is same as woman goes to do paath after carrying some particular hygienic measures.and the above of all are the shabads of Guru Nanak Dev Ji,they cleared all such doubts.I personally too get such doubts in mind,but Person who is still questioning after reading Gurbani is really not a true follower.

I respect Islam for their spiritual values.But the points due to which Guru Nanak DEv ji came to start a new religion sikhism and quoted Islam in SGGS are definitely not what I follow.The main of them are Meat eating, killing animals, taking women as sign of Impurity or giving low stature to women over men.The great muslims,peer or fakir,mahapurkhs you are talking about were definitely not muslims of fanaticism.Guru Nanak patsah has answered EVERYTHING...I think that's quite enough for a Sikh to satisfy with.

You scared me with this..what you mean by these words?? Isnt it wrong to co-relate your words with the statement "oh kehnde asii sirr vadd dwa ge je andar gye ta"" as given by the women in video??

I once posted on this matter of women.I tried a lot,but couldnt find the post. But I think You are pretty much known to the shabads given by Guru Nanak patsah in Asa dee vaar on Women.Dont you follow the teachings of Guru Nanak dev ji?? Are you questioning him??? Tell me where it's written that women are not pure during mensturation? All depends upon the hygienic measures carried by women during these days.. And secondly if a man is doing paath then then whilst doing paath,he starts sweating ,then does iy mean that he has become Impure?? Or should he stop continuing??

First of all,what ever happened in a GURUDWARA,in presence of satguru Ji is totally INSANE.. In The way the people came and starting asking questions in aggresive tone was not right. secondly the issue they raised was totally right.The sentence WOMEN ARE APPAVITAR is totally wrong. I dont believe in any man made rules.All to follow is GURBANI- voice of NIrankaar.I can quote many and many shabads which deny yhis statement.This is Islamic concept.Guru Nanak patsah cleared everything. and when we are talking about hygiene that is a complete different issue.Concept of hygiene implies on everybody irrespective of one's sex. What I think when one is trying his/her best to maintain physical hygiene then it's no longer an issue with one's spirituality. Secondly when they talked about issue of piles ,I got very disappointed at that point.If one is suffering from a disease ,then who is responsible for his sickness?? Of course he not!!! So why to apply restrictions on one's spiritual life.Bhai Randhir singh suffered from Piles(correct me if Im wrong),then shouldnt he stop doing pathh or his bhagti?? I dont think so!! As some members are saying that if one is patit or mona or so called eye brow shaver then what?? All matters is his/her spiritual life.The kamai he is doing.The love he has in his heart.The prem.No ego!!! So I think Women are pure if their hearts arr pure and they know how to maintain physical hygiene. Come on guys!!! Leave the islamic approach!! We are sikhs, not MUSLIMS!!