gurvindersingh

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If Idiot are running organisations then the information they give too will also seem tainted and no body will want to know because of the idiots in charge. In the Sikh world, they are most disliked for how they are to the peoples. This will put people off buying their works

Chatanga you are right and atleast you accept it is issue and speak with respect. Dalsingh meet me face to face

Let's see what you do about the issue you speak of Mr hero dalsingh. Call me oussy to my Face.

Me pointing out a corrupt organization is not me degrading myself. You've pointed out bad elements too so you're degrading yourself? You are probably one of their chamche too

Jaikara shut up! Dalsingh those shenanigans are promoted by these groups. Kashi House. My point is simple, they said and I have heard with my own ears that they do not make profit from sales but they take wages. That is profit. If you cannot see my point that they are a lying thief then God help you. This money is being used to promote the shenanigans in Nidar Singh Akhara and by Kashi House.

it is issue when people are robbed for nothing. it is this type of thing which turns people to go away from sikhism

They say money not being used but money used to pay their wage which have nothing to do with what people are paying for I am reporting them to national lottery fund

They have said so this things themselves. I have heard with my own ears and their workers also told me. They are thief and I have all their books. Their work isn't acadaemic but is instead collection of sources to out into one pile.

They have say that they are a voluntary organisation who is doing the works out of devotion but it's a lies. They are not proper historian and their work is taken from other peoples work and put in one book. They are thief people

Then why are they lying to people just to pay their own wages?

Kashi House which says they are a not for profit organization which wants to promote Sikhism uses money which they receive from sales to pay the wages of their self proclaimed historians and workers. Sanatan Shastar Vidiya Akhara of Surjit Bains is also used to make money to pay people's wages. Its just lies after lies with these people.

Anyway...DalSingh your points are valid however so are mine

Where are the insults?

Bhagatsingh so is Surjit a counsellor for drug addicts? I think not. Your comments are stupid to be honest. I think you need a woman

I have spoken with the Namdhari committee who are aware of Surjit's fanatical preaching and are in the process of reviewing and terminating their right to train at the Namdhari Gurughar in Birmingham, Coventry Road.

Bhagatsingh. Didn't realise Surjit was a drug rehabilitator lol

Bhagatsingh where has anybody mentioned they're outcasts? So It's ok for a martial artist to have intoxicated fools waving swords around? I think not Secondly, Surjit is the one that has preached having moralistiic students with intelligence which I doubt drug fuelled individuals will possess. He has done more bad than good for this tradition.

Bhagatsingh, equating Surjit Bain's actions to Guru Nanak is despicable unless you're claiming that they are both of the same calibre?

The problem lies when he makes claims that this is the 'legacy of Guru Nanak' but then vilifies people, spreads malicious ideologies, promotes sex outside of marriage, drugs, alcohol, has rapists as students. It isn't just a class to learn fighting as he claims its Sikh maryada which makes it far more than just fighting. A year ago I attended seminars in Birmingham. All they were busy doing was vilifying a guy that used to train there but now suffers from schizophrenia and another who apparently went to an airport mentioning a bomb. I highly doubt the gurus were full of pride, arrogance and malice.

Where have I complained about him 'training Sikhs?' I'm commenting on his hypocrisy and lies. He claims this is the art of our Gurus, so does it make sense for him to preach fanatical ideologies against other groups then? That's the 'Gurus tradition' is it? He mentioned that the art shouldn't be sold, he charges so much money for the camps, is that not selling the art? I mean, the Namdhari Gurughar doesn't charge for the usage of their halls, I know this because I know them personally. Anyhow, there's no way to prove what he is teaching is legit. Many, many trained experts have said it's a mix and match of other arts!

They claim they are using money that they gain from the public for books and projects but it pays their wages. Why should he be funded and supported by hard working people, why can he not get a job?

His lies, trickery, slandering innocent people, his cult followers who think they're the best thing since sliced bread. They're cheats.

It's good to see people are finally aware of this low character and his brainwashed cult followers. He is getting banned from every where. His followers are blind to the fact that they are being used by him to build a platform and to pay for his expenses. Typical of a cult. His site says that he is trying to preserve a tradition but he has done more bad than good for it. No body can be blamed for their dislike of this person. He has caused all the animosity towards him, by himself and his cult followers.