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    ragnarok got a reaction from Ragmaala in The Golak should not be infront of Guru Granth Sahib Ji   
    You are making an offering to Guru Sahib, so imo the Golak should be exactly where it is - at Guru Sahib's charan.
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    ragnarok reacted to Sikhilove in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    The first step is to live in Nirboah and Nirvair. Recognize and naturally in sehaj accept that He’s everyone, everything, everywhere. There’s nothing He doesn’t power, He’s All pervading. So we Never Fear Anything or Anyone and become All Loving, for it’s All Him/ Truth.  
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    ragnarok reacted to Sikhilove in Power of Gurbani vs Dark forces, jantar, tantar , mantar   
    You don’t wish you saw it. But make yourself immune, train yourself that no matter how scary looking a demon rising from the dust may be, you’ll not be afraid and recognize it for what it is. Yes, f them. Ive seen a lot of them, and not a single one is able to override the power of Truth. Once, one was coming and I sat down, laughed and said, oh God I know it’s just you in disguise. And the white light came and I was fine.
    Gods is everyone everything everywhere, every situation, so don’t fall for the BS, don’t sink into it mentally, relax, be at peace and stop the chatter in your head. You sound serious about moving forward on the path of Love, maybe He’s seen that and helping you to become stronger and who you’re meant to be. 
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    ragnarok reacted to Sikhilove in Power of Gurbani vs Dark forces, jantar, tantar , mantar   
    Do ardas and naam simran. What I did was to accept the reality that nothing and no one is real, just false images, that God is everyone everything everywhere. Now I sleep fine. Those things can’t touch you if you believe they’re false images. You’ll live in a higher frequency, they’ll keep back. 
     
    Also in your daily life And also when you’re going to sleep, just don’t care about them or about bad souls. If you care too much about others crap, ie nindaks, bad people, you’re caring about an illusory frequency that is lower and darker. Care about Truth and your own life and focus on that. Don’t care about others path, journey or rubbish, including demons And bad people etc. Let the fools be fools.
     
    Play shabads when you sleep, it helps.. nothing should come near you when they’re on. 
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    ragnarok got a reaction from Shaheed4life in Power of Gurbani vs Dark forces, jantar, tantar , mantar   
    It's not that you didn't have the problem. They were there in the background happy that you were stagnating. When you started doing paat they resist because it threatens their control of you.
     
    Also light ghee jot. Personally I like mool mantar and jap ji sahib because they're easier for me, but if you have understanding of the other banis it's fine.
     
    Do you mind my asking what dumb stuff you did? 
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    ragnarok reacted to Lucky in Power of Gurbani vs Dark forces, jantar, tantar , mantar   
    Gurfateh kidsama ji,  This sounds about right, they DO get more active when you start heading towards the satch.  I haven't personally had these things but i've come across a few that have had same issues as you.   My primary suggestion would be to do simran and lots of saas saas so that you can get to hearing shabad and more important;ly, drinking amrit russ(sweet taste).  i'm not sure where you are on the simran ladder,but this should be a major objective.     
     
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    ragnarok got a reaction from Sikhilove in Power of Gurbani vs Dark forces, jantar, tantar , mantar   
    It's not that you didn't have the problem. They were there in the background happy that you were stagnating. When you started doing paat they resist because it threatens their control of you.
     
    Also light ghee jot. Personally I like mool mantar and jap ji sahib because they're easier for me, but if you have understanding of the other banis it's fine.
     
    Do you mind my asking what dumb stuff you did? 
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    ragnarok reacted to harsharan000 in Quotes from AMRIT BANI   
    (869-9)
    kar namaskaar pooray gurdayv.
    Humbly bow to the Perfect  Guru
     (869-9)
    safal moorat safal jaa kee sayv.
    Fruitful is His image, and fruitful is service to Him.
    (869-9)
    antarjaamee purakh biDhaataa.
    He is the Inner-knower, the Searcher of hearts, the Architect of Destiny.
    (869-9)
    aath pahar naam rang raataa. ||1||
    Twenty-four hours a day, he remains imbued with the love of the Naam, the Name of the Lord. ||1||
     
    *For those who think Nam japna is a minor or insignificant mode of devotion to be performed , Guru Jee tells us in the above verses that even the Divine Guru, none other than He Himself, is lovingly absorbed all the 24 hours in the meditative state on Nam.
    Mahima on the love and devotion to Nam simran is apaar in Gurbani, yet we take it lightly or push it  back as something secondary when it comes in terms of our devotion towards Him.
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    ragnarok reacted to mahanpaapi in Instructional Videos   
    🙏.
     
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    ragnarok got a reaction from seattlesingh in Instructional Videos   
    Let's put instructional videos in this thread to avoid clutter on the other threads:
     
    I'll start. 
     
     
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    ragnarok got a reaction from mahanpaapi in Instructional Videos   
    Let's put instructional videos in this thread to avoid clutter on the other threads:
     
    I'll start. 
     
     
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    ragnarok got a reaction from seattlesingh in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    Shall we start another thread for all these videos? I feel like the 'personal experience' factor of this thread is being overshadowed.
     
    Maybe a 'Meditation instructional videos' thread?
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    ragnarok got a reaction from Jageera in Quotes from AMRIT BANI   
    In terms of doing good deeds alone, would like to add that without naam the fruit of these can be stolen or lost:
     
    Whereas with naam:
    and also

    Simran isn't something you just 'sit at home' and do, when you walk in hukam everything is simran, every thought and deed.
    If it's your hukam to sit in a cave and meditate that's fine, and if it's your hukam to be a householder and gregarious that's also fine. Everyon'es path is different, Guru Nanak's way has no dogma because once the Sikh discovers hukam they learn to follow their unique path.
     
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    ragnarok got a reaction from Lucky in Quotes from AMRIT BANI   
    In terms of doing good deeds alone, would like to add that without naam the fruit of these can be stolen or lost:
     
    Whereas with naam:
    and also

    Simran isn't something you just 'sit at home' and do, when you walk in hukam everything is simran, every thought and deed.
    If it's your hukam to sit in a cave and meditate that's fine, and if it's your hukam to be a householder and gregarious that's also fine. Everyon'es path is different, Guru Nanak's way has no dogma because once the Sikh discovers hukam they learn to follow their unique path.
     
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    ragnarok got a reaction from harsharan000 in Quotes from AMRIT BANI   
    In terms of doing good deeds alone, would like to add that without naam the fruit of these can be stolen or lost:
     
    Whereas with naam:
    and also

    Simran isn't something you just 'sit at home' and do, when you walk in hukam everything is simran, every thought and deed.
    If it's your hukam to sit in a cave and meditate that's fine, and if it's your hukam to be a householder and gregarious that's also fine. Everyon'es path is different, Guru Nanak's way has no dogma because once the Sikh discovers hukam they learn to follow their unique path.
     
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    ragnarok reacted to harsharan000 in Quotes from AMRIT BANI   
    First of all, all deeds are actions, and any action is karma, which may be good or bad, and as such kamas are like seeds sown for which we have to come when they are reap, some may have planted mangoes, so they come to collect mangoes(good karmas = healthy, happy life), others may have planted "mirchi" , so they have to come and collect or eat their own sown seeds of pain and misery, so karmas or deeds are definetely not truthful living...
    To view truthful living in the perspective of Gurmat, we have to understand and keep in mind what that Truth is.
    The Truth mentioned in Gurbani is the Supreme creator Waheguru Akal Purukh Himself, to which Gurbani is referred as aad Sach, jugaad Sach, hae bhee Sach, Nanak hosee bhee Sach.
    So Sach is Nam, which is not a particular word in a particular language, or an exclusivity of any dharam , mazab, or country in time and space. 
    Rather Nam or Shabad is a creative consciouss power or energy, all pervasive
    So truthful living naturally, has to do something with what we engage in by trying to manifest that Truth/Sach within us. 
    And that definetely truthful living is His simran or Nam bhakti, so naturally we come to a logic concluson, that the devotion or meditation of Nam simran is in essence the truthful living, as it leads us to that ultimate Truth of Nam or Shabad.
    In this respect the Bani tells us:
    Awar kaaj tere kitay na kaam mil Sadh sangat bhaj kewal Naam.
    No other deeds are of any avail, so keep the company of the Holy, and do only the jaap of Naam.
    The Bani does not say to rely on good deeds/karmas, in order to realize Him, for as seen above good karmas are chains which keep us also prisoners in the mayavee creation, for we have to come and collect the fruits of those good deeds or karmas sown by us.
    The Bani says: 
    Aapay bheejeh aapay khaae
    You eat your own sown karmas.
    At other place regarding deeds, good or bad, the Bani tells us: 
    ਕਰਮੀ ਆਵੈ ਕਪੜਾ ਨਦਰੀ ਮੋਖੁ ਦੁਆਰੁ ॥
    Karamee Aavai Kaparraa Nadharee Mokh Dhuaar ||
    By the karma of past actions, the robe of this physical body is obtained. By His Grace, the Gate of Liberation is found.
    So you see, with deeds  whether good or bad, we obtain different bodies in the wheel of 84 according to our merits, but definetely not the Truth of Nam, which is obtained by His grace.
    And to add a bit, no one can do His simran by himself or herself, for as the Bani says:  Se simrae jis Aap simrae. 
    Which means, only that being meditates on His Nam, to whom He wants, so you see Pen Jee, it is not in anybody´s hands to do His simran.
    That is why, most people have aversion to Nam japnaa, they prefer to do and are ready to do any other things or activities above His Nam simran as seen in the Bani,  in almost each ang of it.
    Many have the concept that Nam simran is doing a mantra simran or meditation, which is not correct at all.
    His Simran is the jugtee which will reveal or manifest the Satnam, Nam or Shabad as the ultimate Truth within us
     
    His simran is the actionless action, thus truly the truthful living, for by engaging in it, we are on the path which will only lead us to that Truth / Sach since the very beginning or in the eternity.
    Truthful living can also be seen as His Simran, for as the Bani says:
    Jin Har japeeya se Har hoeeya. 
    This means, whosoever does His simran, becomes one with Him.
    The Bani does not say do good deeds in order to manifest that Truth within yourself, rather emphasizes again and again on His simran, if only our purpose is of merging ourselves in Him.
    Good deeds or moral living are necessary only to the extent of keeping our vessels (mind) clean, for when the ocassion arises the Amrit of Nam can be poured into our very inner  being.
    Good deeds is only keeping the vessel clean, which by all means is empty by itself. 
    Good deeds is not Nam, is not Amrit.
    Amrit is poured into us by His grace, but for that our vessels have to be clean.
     
    So the next question could very well be: how can that Amrit of Nam be obtained?
    Guru Jee tells us the correct answer in a simple manner: 
    ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਵੇਲਾ ਸਚੁ ਨਾਉ ਵਡਿਆਈ ਵੀਚਾਰੁ ॥
    Anmrith Vaelaa Sach Naao Vaddiaaee Veechaar ||
    In the Amrit Vaylaa, the ambrosial hours before dawn, chant the True Name, and contemplate His Glorious Greatness.
    Bhagat Jan, Gurmukhs, Guru Sahiban.... all of these come at our level from that realm of Ultimate Truth, where nothing else exists but He himself alone.
    And they come for the only purpose of awakening  us to that reality of Truth/Sach/Nam, by singing His praises; to which we are unaware due to our deep rooted agyanta and manmat.
     
    In relation to whatsoever has been mentioned in this post, I would like to end with some beautiful verses from the Bani of Panchvee Patshahee:
     
    ਅਬ ਕਲੂ ਆਇਓ ਰੇ    
    Ab Kaloo Aaeiou Rae   
    Now, the Dark Age of Kali Yuga has come.  
    ਇਕੁ ਨਾਮੁ ਬੋਵਹੁ ਬੋਵਹੁ
    Eik Naam Bovahu Bovahu ||
    Plant the Naam, the Name of the One Lord.
    ਅਨ ਰੂਤਿ ਨਾਹੀ ਨਾਹੀ ॥
    An Rooth Naahee Naahee ||
    It is not the season to plant other seeds (good deeds/karmas, poojas, pilgrimages, fasting, torturing oneself, idol worship, keeping quiet, etc . 
    ਮਤੁ ਭਰਮਿ ਭੂਲਹੁ ਭੂਲਹੁ ॥
    Math Bharam Bhoolahu Bhoolahu ||
    Do not wander lost in doubt and delusion.
     
    ਮਨ ਰੁਤਿ ਨਾਮ ਰੇ ॥
    Man Ruth Naam Rae ||
    O mortal, this is the season of the Naam.
    ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਹੁ ਦਿਨੁ ਰਾਤੀ ਅੰਤ ਕਾਲਿ ਨਹ ਲਾਗੈ ਪੀਰ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
    Guramukh Naam Japahu Dhin Raathee Anth Kaal Neh Laagai Peer ||1|| Rehaao ||
    As Gurmukh, chant the Naam, the Name of the Lord, day and night. At the very last moment, you shall not have to suffer in pain.
     
    Then as a consequence of this truthful practice, following is the result which takes place:
    ਜਨ ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਜੋ ਨਰੁ ਖੇਲੈ ਸੋ ਜਿਣਿ ਬਾਜੀ ਘਰਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੪॥੧॥੧੯॥
    Jan Naanak Guramukh Jo Nar Khaelai So Jin Baajee Ghar Aaeiaa ||4||1||19||
    O servant Nanak, that person who plays this game as Gurmukh, wins the game of life, and returns to his true home (Sach Khand). 
     
    ਗੁਰਮਤੀ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਈਐ ਸੁਖਿ ਰਜਾ ਜਾ ਤੁਧੁ ਭਾਇਆ ॥
    Guramathee Naam Dhhiaaeeai Sukh Rajaa Jaa Thudhh Bhaaeiaa ||
    Those who follow the Guru's Teachings meditate on the Naam, the Name of the Lord. Filled with a joyful peace, they surrender to Your Will.
     
    So you see Pen Jee, Guru Jee in each Ang, stresses upon Nam, and its japnaa or simran, to cleanse us from all our karmas/deeds whether good or bad, and at the same time to manifest or reveal that Aad Truth/Sach of Nam, within us, not otherwsie.
    Sat Sree Akal.
     
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    ragnarok reacted to Lucky in Quotes from AMRIT BANI   
    @harsharan000 and @Sikhilove
    Interesting topic. Without butting into a debate, I have to say that as per my understanding of "truthful living" and good deeds; I would agree with @harsharan000 .
    @Sikhilove,  let me explain below on why I come to this conclusion.
    Doing good deeds falls under the umbrella of Satogun behavior.. Remember that maya is divided into tamogun, rajogun and satogun. >the 3 gunas of maya..  Since maya is the creative illusion, it is also in a continuous flux of motion. Sometimes we call it Kaal's desh since this motion is relative to Time and Space.  However, it is not the Satch or absolute truth.  Yet, we also know that the Satcha Nirankar exists among us in this illusion, therefore we can say that elements of the ultimate truth are within maya but that doesn't mean that the satch is maya..    You following what i mean?
    Now, the shabad you quoted above and similar shabads, all have to be taken in context to the message of Sat within the shabad..  Let's have a look at the one you quoted......
    ਮੇਰਾ ਮਨੋ ਮੇਰਾ ਮਨੁ ਨਿਰਮਲੁ ਸਾਚੁ ਸਮਾਲੇ ਰਾਮ ॥
    Merā mano merā man nirmal sācẖ samāle rām.
    My mind, my mind has become immaculately pure, contemplating the True Lord.
    ਅਵਗਣ ਮੇਟਿ ਚਲੇ ਗੁਣ ਸੰਗਮ ਨਾਲੇ ਰਾਮ ॥
    Avgaṇ met cẖale guṇ sangam nāle rām.
    I have dispelled my vices, and now I walk in the company of the virtuous.
     
    ਅਵਗਣ ਪਰਹਰਿ ਕਰਣੀ ਸਾਰੀ ਦਰਿ ਸਚੈ ਸਚਿਆਰੋ ॥
    Avgaṇ parhar karṇī sārī ḏar sacẖai sacẖi▫āro.
    Discarding my vices, I do good deeds, and in the True Court, I am judged as true.
     
    ਆਵਣੁ ਜਾਵਣੁ ਠਾਕਿ ਰਹਾਏ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਤਤੁ ਵੀਚਾਰੋ ॥
    Āvaṇ jāvaṇ ṯẖāk rahā▫e gurmukẖ ṯaṯ vīcẖāro.
    My coming and going has come to an end; as Gurmukh, I reflect upon the nature of reality.
     
    ਸਾਜਨੁ ਮੀਤੁ ਸੁਜਾਣੁ ਸਖਾ ਤੂੰ ਸਚਿ ਮਿਲੈ ਵਡਿਆਈ ॥
    Sājan mīṯ sujāṇ sakẖā ṯūʼn sacẖ milai vadi▫ā▫ī.
    O my Dear Friend, You are my all-knowing companion; grant me the glory of Your True Name.

    I'll elaborate a little further as per my understanding.-  In this context, the key and root of shabad is the first pangtee.  "My mind, my mind has become immaculately pure,"  Shabad mentions of how the Mann has been purified. Further, it goes on to say... since it is now purified (via simran), I can dispel my vices (ie. the 5 chor)     
    NOTE- one can only beat the 5 chor once the veils and dirt have been removed from the Mind.  Yes, by doing satogun deeds we can dodge and maneuver around the dhoots, but you won't actually be able to conquer them unless the Mann has been purified by Naam simran.  Why? because then the game gets governed by Naam,
    The important point I'm trying to make is that  the goal is to purify the mann. The mann needs to be purifed enough so that Naam can become manifest. Once naam is pargat, then you can proceed towards revealing the mann's jyot (mann tu jyot swaroop hai).   I firmly believe and understand that the mann won't be purified enough (ie. to get naam) by doing satogunni good deeds alone.  Hope you follow what I'm saying here?
     
     
     
     
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    ragnarok got a reaction from Daas_ in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    You can achieve power by practicing mantras. In english you could say that you 'sidh a mantra'.
    As I mentioned above:
    Haumai naavay naal virodh hai. Doay na vasai khataey.
     
    If you practice a mantra, any mantra, with the aim of getting power, anger or anything related to the five thieves or ego then it is not naam. Naam is your 'true self', the Satnaam. Man tu jot swaroop hai, aapna mool pachaan.
     
    The examples of abuse Sikhilove is making above refer to people who get some amount of power and use it for personal gain of some sort. Not all of them do so overtly, there are gupt ones who are potentially more dangerous. By definition this is not naam even though it may involve mantra simran. Not all mantra simran is naam simran.
     
    I would say Sidhi refers to the power, which may or may not be used selflessly. In general Sikhs are not supposed to use these at all even though a Sikh will gain the ability to access them along the path (ridh sidh nav nidh) but should leave everything to Hukam, and approach Maharaj with Ardas in case there is any issue bothering the Sikh.
     
     
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    ragnarok reacted to Lucky in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    Very good understanding.
    Naam, shabad,and amrit burn haumai and desires (trishna )   "haumai trishna shabad bujaai" Guru Amardas jee
    Naam does not produce ego but it will invoke the awareness of it. The seeker becomes conscious of when mann is acting  in ego or when mann is in guru's hukam( gur-mat).    You get better in  recognizing when one's ego is in play. 
     
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    ragnarok got a reaction from Daas_ in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    Would jus tlike to point out that i'ts not possible to use naam for ego. We shouldn't confuse gyaan and ridh-sidh with naam.
     
    Haumai naavay naal virodh hai. Doay na vasai khataey.
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    ragnarok got a reaction from Lucky in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    In my view you're confusing naam with sidhi. 
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    ragnarok got a reaction from paapiman in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    You can achieve power by practicing mantras. In english you could say that you 'sidh a mantra'.
    As I mentioned above:
    Haumai naavay naal virodh hai. Doay na vasai khataey.
     
    If you practice a mantra, any mantra, with the aim of getting power, anger or anything related to the five thieves or ego then it is not naam. Naam is your 'true self', the Satnaam. Man tu jot swaroop hai, aapna mool pachaan.
     
    The examples of abuse Sikhilove is making above refer to people who get some amount of power and use it for personal gain of some sort. Not all of them do so overtly, there are gupt ones who are potentially more dangerous. By definition this is not naam even though it may involve mantra simran. Not all mantra simran is naam simran.
     
    I would say Sidhi refers to the power, which may or may not be used selflessly. In general Sikhs are not supposed to use these at all even though a Sikh will gain the ability to access them along the path (ridh sidh nav nidh) but should leave everything to Hukam, and approach Maharaj with Ardas in case there is any issue bothering the Sikh.
     
     
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    ragnarok got a reaction from harsharan000 in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    You can achieve power by practicing mantras. In english you could say that you 'sidh a mantra'.
    As I mentioned above:
    Haumai naavay naal virodh hai. Doay na vasai khataey.
     
    If you practice a mantra, any mantra, with the aim of getting power, anger or anything related to the five thieves or ego then it is not naam. Naam is your 'true self', the Satnaam. Man tu jot swaroop hai, aapna mool pachaan.
     
    The examples of abuse Sikhilove is making above refer to people who get some amount of power and use it for personal gain of some sort. Not all of them do so overtly, there are gupt ones who are potentially more dangerous. By definition this is not naam even though it may involve mantra simran. Not all mantra simran is naam simran.
     
    I would say Sidhi refers to the power, which may or may not be used selflessly. In general Sikhs are not supposed to use these at all even though a Sikh will gain the ability to access them along the path (ridh sidh nav nidh) but should leave everything to Hukam, and approach Maharaj with Ardas in case there is any issue bothering the Sikh.
     
     
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    ragnarok got a reaction from Lucky in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    You can achieve power by practicing mantras. In english you could say that you 'sidh a mantra'.
    As I mentioned above:
    Haumai naavay naal virodh hai. Doay na vasai khataey.
     
    If you practice a mantra, any mantra, with the aim of getting power, anger or anything related to the five thieves or ego then it is not naam. Naam is your 'true self', the Satnaam. Man tu jot swaroop hai, aapna mool pachaan.
     
    The examples of abuse Sikhilove is making above refer to people who get some amount of power and use it for personal gain of some sort. Not all of them do so overtly, there are gupt ones who are potentially more dangerous. By definition this is not naam even though it may involve mantra simran. Not all mantra simran is naam simran.
     
    I would say Sidhi refers to the power, which may or may not be used selflessly. In general Sikhs are not supposed to use these at all even though a Sikh will gain the ability to access them along the path (ridh sidh nav nidh) but should leave everything to Hukam, and approach Maharaj with Ardas in case there is any issue bothering the Sikh.
     
     
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    ragnarok got a reaction from Daas_ in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    Condensed Quote from Raymond Kinman who had a near death experience :
    Brother, life is VERY realistic... but it ain’t real.  None of this is real.  I don’t put much stock in the idea that this world is all there is.  This is a very, very small part of the infinite whole.
    I like to think of myself as an actor in a play.  I am playing a very small, but very important part in this play.  This is not real, it is just a very realistic drama.  A play.  A movie.  
    This movie is a place where God can pretend that he is not God.  
    God isn’t a person.  God is everything and everyone who has ever been.  Every tse-tse fly and bacteria.  Every stone and all the cosmos.  We are all God.
    You have forgotten who you really are.  You are an infinitely powerful being.  You have a purpose in life but you have forgotten what it is.
    You are here to Love.
     
    Peace,
    Raymond
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