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Maybe 24 hours on weekends.

I found out about Gyani Harbans Singh Jee from Giani Thakur Singh katha, he says Giani Jee is very scholar. This is the excerpt, I found on gurmatbibek.com about Giani Jee, Hope it helps.

If you guys are in listening mood, listen yoga sutras by Swami Rama, "Living with Himalayan Masters" fame. Audio (English). It is 8 lectures 85/85(Playlist). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RiT7IJ617g Waheguru Jee ka khalsa, Waheguru Jee ki fateh.

Alright hon. Good luck.

Whoz Guru, are you baptised ? huh

I don't care for you or others like you, I m concerned for forum in large. Why would you bother what I comment or not.

GO Away.

Sangat Jee please aapni sharda bachao, just don't get involved with these useless and time wasting topics, we have nothing to gain here but everything to lose here. Every amritdhari sikh is instructed during amrit sanchaar keep you faith on amrit, never doubt on it and everything that is told during the ceremony is told by Guru Gobind Singh Jee by himself. The topic is directly a slur on it. I doubt OP is amritdhari yet?. Don't create doubt, bring good topics which can be appreciated by the forum or else don't . Are we sikhs of Guru Gobind Singh Jee Maharaj or some uninformed authors. Ask?

I could not understand anything you wrote, what are you saying jaap sahib and Swaiyee were not read by Guru Gobind Singh Jee during first Amrit sanchaar 1699 and these were added later what? Clarify yourself.

Satkirin, You win,ok. Thats what you want to hear right, want a medal too? Not stop hogging the forum. Leave ours Sri Dasam Granth Jee to us. Your fingers must be tired by now,huh? what you get out of these past few days, nothing just self ego boost. I know you won't do it as I said it earlier also, ask Guru Granth Jee Maharaj about your so called opinions and take hukamnama and share with forum what Guru Maharaj says, and now give us rest.

This is the translation given by Giani Harbans Singh Patiala. SGGS 1084 ਕਾਇਆ ਕਿਰਦਾਰ ਅਉਰਤ ਯਕੀਨਾ ॥ਰੰਗ ਤਮਾਸੇ ਮਾਣਿ ਹਕੀਨਾ ॥ਨਾਪਾਕ ਪਾਕੁ ਕਰਿ ਹਦੂਰਿ ਹਦੀਸਾ ਸਾਬਤ ਸੂਰਤਿ ਦਸਤਾਰ ਸਿਰਾ ॥੧੨॥

We should bow to Nitnem Pothi Sahib in our homes, it is closest thing to Guru sahib in our home. Every Gurbani Verse even written on a paper should be given same respect as Guru Granth Sahib Jee Maharaj. Instead of just blurting out anything comes in our mind kindly contemplate. Take a break. SGGS Ang 982. ਬਾਣੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਗੁਰੂ ਹੈ ਬਾਣੀ ਵਿਚਿ ਬਾਣੀ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਸਾਰੇ ॥ Baṇī gurū gurū hai baṇī vicẖ baṇī amriṯ sāre.The Word, the Bani is Guru, and Guru is the Bani. Within the Bani, the Ambrosial Nectar is contained. ਗੁਰੁ ਬਾਣੀ ਕਹੈ ਸੇਵਕੁ ਜਨੁ ਮਾਨੈ ਪਰਤਖਿ ਗੁਰੂ ਨਿਸਤਾਰੇ ॥੫॥ Gur baṇī kahai sevak jan mānai parṯakẖ gurū nisṯāre. ||5||If His humble servant believes, and acts according to the Words of the Guru's Bani, then the Guru, in person, emancipates him. ||5||

I can explain what is saying in the Rehras Sahib which is by the way correct, don't bring up things you didn't research and just quoting some nonsense interpretation. I can explain to you but I can't understand for you. Admin freeze the thread it is not going anywhere, just hurling accusations and creating animosity in the forum. Instead of the circle jerk debate, why don't bring up something which we can all learn, all I can see is hate spewing in this forum. Why don't you guys messages each other without involving forum.

Sant Jee do katha of hukumnama of the given day. For those of us who feels like santhiya is an issue, just listen to Giani Thakur Singh gurbani diction, because we learn saying but first listening and then imitating. He has website, kindly refer to it. http://gianithakursingh.com I doubt Sri Dasam Jee katha is available online. http://www.gurmatveechar.com/audio.php?q=f&f=%2FGurbani_Ucharan%2FKabaal_Singh_(Hazoor_Sahib_wale)%2FSri_Dasam_Granth_Sahib_(Hazoor_Sahib_Bir) It is Sri Dasam Jee Paath Audio. Singh has clear diction and good voice.

http://www.santrendayasingh.com Highly recommended website of katha Veechar by Bhai Daya Singh Jee Delhi, A very high avastha mahapursh, he used to say in katha I did 26 years simran and then I started doing katha on behest of Sri Guru Nanak Dev Jee. Sangat Jee, please take laha of the katha on the website, website updates regularly. Waheguru Jee ka khalsa, Waheguru jee ki fateh.

Could be easily done, I suggest hear full Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee katha by Giani thakur Singh Jee.

I was wrong my whole life, I thought opposites attract. ;)

I wonder how much abhiyaas is actually going on, by the forum members, they do seem to have huge knowledge of facts on sikhi. ;)

Waheguru is Guru Nanak Dev Jee Guru, Shudh Nirgun sarup. When Guru Nanak Dev was rumored to be drowned in Vaei River in Sultanpur Punjab, at that time he took duty to do prachaar of True knowledge of waheguru. He started preaching after he came out of the river. At this time Guru nanak Dev Jee has Waheguru as his guru, he has taken amrit from waheguru Jee, Of course not khande bate da amrit but that "amrit" is the essence of all gurus till present.

All gurus are Amritdhari. Guru Gobind Singh Maharaj had taken khande baate da Amrit from panj pyaare. He is the living soul embodiment of all the gurus from Guru Nanak Dev Jee Maharaj upto Guru Teg Bahadar Jee Maharaj. So yes all Guru Sahib including Guru granth sahib Jee Maharaj are baptised.

We should first ask ourselves why does it matter if they are wrong people (as u say).

This is the translation as given by Giani Harbans Singh Patiala. SGGS Ang 1195

Kindly mention the SGGS Ang.