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    ibrute got a reaction from dalsingh101 in Sikhism And Caste   
    People who boast of their caste, actually don't have much, to be proud of. They hide behind these caste names to inflate their ego. On a related issue, in Guru Ghar all people should be motivated on this path, calling out Non-amrit ones isn't helping anyone. Beginners should be encouraged. Be the bridge between your fellow person and god, don't burn it. 
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    ibrute got a reaction from Arsh1469 in 5 Pyare: selected by the Guru?   
    To add to it, Giani Thakur singh in his katha said that panj pyare were bhagats who were reincarnated for this purpose only.
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    ibrute got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Purpose Of Dasam Granth   
    Satkirin, You win,ok. Thats what you want to hear right, want a medal too? Not stop hogging the forum. Leave ours Sri Dasam Granth Jee to us. Your fingers must be tired by now,huh? what you get out of these past few days, nothing just self ego boost. I know you won't do it as I said it earlier also, ask Guru Granth Jee Maharaj about your so called opinions and take hukamnama and share with forum what Guru Maharaj says, and now give us rest.  
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    ibrute got a reaction from Arsh1469 in 5 Pyare: selected by the Guru?   
    Tell me what is your expectation from "THE DISCUSSION". You must have some doubt or alternate suggestion for it, please discuss you thoughts here first.
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    ibrute got a reaction from Arsh1469 in 5 Pyare: selected by the Guru?   
    Nothing to discuss here, what you heard is right. Giving heads in battle is one thing and responding to demand of heads all of sudden in diwan is another thing.
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    ibrute got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Ate meat by accident   
    Yes, I read it too, but could not wrap my thinking around it, I mean why it is said? Could not come up with an explanation. 
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    ibrute got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Ate meat by accident   
    Could you point me, where it is mentioned. Give the context.
    What I think is that kurehits are based on controlling the five vices, 
    like eating meat comes under the vice labh(desire to eat), sexual relations comes under the vice kaam, keeping hair means walk in bhaana (in sync with nature). Tobacco ruins health. like that.
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    ibrute got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Ate meat by accident   
    I don't think Guru Maharaj means that, sexual relations with any women except wife means the same thing, religion is not an issue. What I think it means is, ejacualtion in sex means you are willingly doing it even for a moment. I think that is the jist here.
    On similar note, during war, Muslims and others used to hurl nasty abuses to singhs in order to provoke them. Singhs naturally reply in same tone, its war what the hell. Guru Gobind Singh Jee heard it and said Singho' dont abuse, say 'waheguru', even in war we have standards.
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    ibrute got a reaction from Premi in Sikhism And Caste   
    People who boast of their caste, actually don't have much, to be proud of. They hide behind these caste names to inflate their ego. On a related issue, in Guru Ghar all people should be motivated on this path, calling out Non-amrit ones isn't helping anyone. Beginners should be encouraged. Be the bridge between your fellow person and god, don't burn it. 
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    ibrute got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Dhadrianwale and Dhumma jee Rift   
    Dhadriwale was riled up because couple of months back when Guru Maharaj Beadbi was done by miscreants all sikh forces were planning on doing peaceful protests in the state and dhumma was also a part of it along with sant samaj. But then Dhumma backed out saying we do close door meeting with Badal's. Nobody was in favour of closed door meeting and dhumma dropped out of the protest.  Dhadriwale and few sant samaj members continue the protest and eventually all the pressure they built on govt. regarding catching beadbi culprits just lost its steam. He is upset of it thats why he is saying dhumma is sarkari sant. 
    Then dhumma had some cheap remarks on social media on dhadrwiale and this month dhadriwale in his divan openly named him. And now this professional murder attempt. Maybe its quite early to connect the dots. 
    Btw don't know about dhumma hope its good, but dhadriwale is a good sikh preacher.
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    ibrute got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Dhadrianwale and Dhumma jee Rift   
    He is making comments against Dhumma not taksal.
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    ibrute got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Giani Thakur Singh Ji on Brahm Kavach   
    @GLA7 
    No one can control bad thoughts, these arises due to our desires and deeds done in this or previous lifetimes. But it can be very much tackled, when bad thought arises remind yourself that you are not this thought, you are witnessing it and create a gap from it. And let go of it, do not pay attention to it or it will surely drag you down. Do this and thought loses it power and vanishes in a moment. 
    Shaheed Singhs are, you can say the best possible sikhs you can look upto. They do not go around bossing people like we think. 
    If person wishes to do Sri Dasam Jee Bani, and if not amritdhari, atleast person should correct his eating habits, be strictly vegetarian during the jaap and maintain no bad company, including movies, TV or internet garbage.
    On a positive note, I heard that if Shaheed Singhs are happy with you and wants to give you something, even Guru Gobind Singh Maharaj Jee won't say NO to Shaheed Singhs wishes and agrees with them.
    Good luck.
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    ibrute got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Why Sikhi failed to spread   
    I can think a couple of reasons 
    1. Sikh Jeevan means daily routine, here I am talking about sikh who is a amritdhari, we all know how effortful path it is, do daily Bani's and be vigilante 24/7 for kurehits. It demands full on commitment. My point is unless person has both knowledge + faith on Guru granth sahib Jee Maharaj, It is somewhat difficult to go on this path for so long. We all look for shortcuts and came to Guru Sahib for help, only in need, but it takes time and in addition we have to open our minds and ears at all times. Maybe people want lesser demanding gods just do some ritual, and do some offerings and gods are pleased, it is not sikh way, it could be a major reason for people not fully accepting it.
    2. Politics and leadership could be another one, just think I am here referring to Giani Hari Singh Randhawa vs Missionary discussion video posted on the forum, in which he says that the Rehat Maryada code, we see nowadays is just a rough document presented in 1930's. Though all 5 Singh Sahibs of takhts did not agree to it, so it is not duly signed and accepted. That happened 80 years back, in all these years no definite effort was made to correct it and unite the panth with one rehat maryada which is core need, it gives you idea how lacking leadership/politics is in spreading sikh message.
    3. Parents are responsible too, if children are not in sikhi, it is most likely a reflection of parents. Mothers specially (don't get feminist on me), I believe most of us who are in sikhi are because of our mothers with strong sikh roots. Her spending a lot of childhood years with you affects your way of life.
    4. Parcharak (Distributers of faith) are in blame too, in older days parcharak was one who did practical first and then spread the message, a couple of sants like Isher Singh Rara sahib comes to mind, beginners look up to role models, they first saw parcharak's jeevan and later on come to Guru sahib, it could be the reason. In today world with all the media one high avastha parcharak can make the difference to the people who want to enter the faith.
    Guru Gobind Singh Maharaj do ardas for us in chaupai sahib that   
     
    "ਸੁਖੀ ਬਸੈ ਮੋਰੋ ਪਰਿਵਾਰਾ ॥ ਸੇਵਕ ਸਿੱਖਯ ਸਭੈ ਕਰਤਾਰਾ ॥੩੭੮॥
    O, Creator, May my family live in comfort along with all devotees and disciples. 
     
     maybe we don't want to become "SUKHI".

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    ibrute got a reaction from GurjantGnostic in Brutal Punishment for cutting Kesh (Hair)   
    We are made up of five elements, but jamdoots are made of two elements fire and air, thats why they can travel anywhere, also we can say they are normal blokes, who sometimes make mistakes with same name person and take other person soul with them. But it is rare of rare. I heard that when jamdoots take soul from the body, unimaginable pain is experienced. Some Mahapursh were saying that if we know this pain while alive, we will never forget god for a instant because this pain is so much excruciating. 
    Upside is mentioned in this Gurbani's shabad. Dharam Raja warns his jamdoots to not go near gurmukhs(any religion); 

    Jeh Saadhu Gobind Bhajan Kirtan Nanak Neet|| 
    Naa hau, naa tu neh chhutay, nikat na jaaeeo doot|| 

    (O Jamdooths, where Saadhoos of Gobind, do bhajan and kirtan everyday, never go there; if you go there, then neither you, nor I will be saved from punishment). 
     
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    ibrute got a reaction from Lioness11 in Case Study 1 - Slander (Ninda)   
    How does one deal with slander (Ninda) of oneself and backbiting (Chuglee) at a workplace, according to Gurmat?
    Given that you did not do anything they are saying, it is very good. Kabir Jee says nindak is my true friend he cleans my karma with his tongue. Dont stop them it will help  you a lot spiritually, like in Bhagti.
    Keep a happy face, truth will eventually prevails.
    If someone do ninda with you in company, Avoid that person like toxic. Make excuses that you are busy or better leave the place for a moment. Thats why Guru jee says keep some level of non attachment with your surroundings, because result of hearing slander is Dokh dristi. You will see evil in all and spiritually that is a death sentence. Guru Amar das Jee maharaj say Har bin awar na dekho koi. Its good to follow Guru's advice.
     
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    ibrute got a reaction from paapiman in Case Study 1 - Slander (Ninda)   
    How does one deal with slander (Ninda) of oneself and backbiting (Chuglee) at a workplace, according to Gurmat?
    Given that you did not do anything they are saying, it is very good. Kabir Jee says nindak is my true friend he cleans my karma with his tongue. Dont stop them it will help  you a lot spiritually, like in Bhagti.
    Keep a happy face, truth will eventually prevails.
    If someone do ninda with you in company, Avoid that person like toxic. Make excuses that you are busy or better leave the place for a moment. Thats why Guru jee says keep some level of non attachment with your surroundings, because result of hearing slander is Dokh dristi. You will see evil in all and spiritually that is a death sentence. Guru Amar das Jee maharaj say Har bin awar na dekho koi. Its good to follow Guru's advice.
     
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    ibrute got a reaction from gsm52 in Why did the Gurus NOT write the katha/viakya of Guru Granth Sahib Ji?   
    I don't know much and apologize in advance but I think SGGS Jee gives us guidelines, basic attributes of God, what to do, what not to do, whom to look up to like sants, importance of sangat, like that. Along with is the main component which is missing in this conversation that is simran on waheguru mantra, As simran goes to higher stages, buddhi goes more subtle and hidden arths of the gurbani emerges. 
    To find Waheguru in Guru granth sahib jee, we need to have mind of purest level which can be attained by simran. Only then we can "Bhujj" him.
    Mind which understands arths have no access to soul, and we have to merge our soul(drop) to waheguru(ocean), and accessing of our soul is only done by simran, as far as I know.
    Complete sant necessity arises when the sikh reaches higher stages of simran, and need guidance from other Gursikh who himself tread through similar paths to reach ultimate destination sachkhand. Thoughts?
     
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    ibrute got a reaction from Jageera in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    Ya, Trataka is one of the hatha yoga techniques. A damn good one.
     
    "Trataka eradicates all eye diseases, fatigue and sloth and closes the doorway creating these problems. It should be carefully kept secret like a golden casket" 
    Above passage is taken from a book called Hatha yoga pradipika. 
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    ibrute got a reaction from Jageera in Important Point on Sikh Rehat Maryada (SRM) and Panj Pyare   
    I wonder how much abhiyaas is actually going on, by the forum members, they do seem to have huge knowledge of facts on sikhi. ;)
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    ibrute got a reaction from paapiman in Harrassment Issues   
    Miss, read pappiman post clearly, he says if we take Gurbani "verses" on face value/ literal meanings then we might find the following verses obscene, he is trying to bring our attention to not focus on visual imaginary in Sri Dasam Granth Jee and focus on the purpose of it.
    READ before you type.
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    ibrute got a reaction from Kaur1 in Giani Thakur Singh Ji on Brahm Kavach   
    @GLA7 
    No one can control bad thoughts, these arises due to our desires and deeds done in this or previous lifetimes. But it can be very much tackled, when bad thought arises remind yourself that you are not this thought, you are witnessing it and create a gap from it. And let go of it, do not pay attention to it or it will surely drag you down. Do this and thought loses it power and vanishes in a moment. 
    Shaheed Singhs are, you can say the best possible sikhs you can look upto. They do not go around bossing people like we think. 
    If person wishes to do Sri Dasam Jee Bani, and if not amritdhari, atleast person should correct his eating habits, be strictly vegetarian during the jaap and maintain no bad company, including movies, TV or internet garbage.
    On a positive note, I heard that if Shaheed Singhs are happy with you and wants to give you something, even Guru Gobind Singh Maharaj Jee won't say NO to Shaheed Singhs wishes and agrees with them.
    Good luck.
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    ibrute got a reaction from paapiman in Witches in Gurbani   
    Yes, there are spirits around us. I have the experience when I was kid. There was a young woman who got suicide in the house by hanging to fan and her family just left the house, no funeral ceremonies, nothing done. Like the horror movie plot, my known friend family moved in there. That young woman spirit start overpowering my friend's mom and her health takes toll. So, in short, my friend family called a person who is known to control spirits via mantra siddhi, something like that. Unluckily, I was in their home when this person came. I sat along with friend's family in the living room and all rooms were bolted. He was standing there doing some mantar with water in hand. And boom, the door near which he was standing hard knocked from inside. I was scared in my jammies, where the F@#k I m stuck. Anyways, the person(mantra man) go inside the room and start asking the spirit why she was harassing the family. And then, he said to the spirit come with me to my place and I will help you.
    Here comes the big moment, all I heard was one word said by spirit "where". It was unmistakably said by a young woman with accent from rural background. I was awake 2 nights after that.
    And the persons who came along with this mantra man, were sitting outside the home in their car, said that a naked woman came out covered with blood all over her body. 
    So thats my experience with them.
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    ibrute got a reaction from paapiman in Radha Soami exposed   
    Sant Jee was saying Saun Singh, secondly he is brahamgyani, so can't give lies for sure in sangat in the presence of Guru Maharaj.
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    ibrute got a reaction from tva prasad in Amrit, Duality, Pany-Payaras   
    I have heard in katha, that one abhiyasi (highly spiritual stage) was sitting during the amrit sanchaar ceremony solely for this purpose alone that whether women who partake in panj pyaare were actually able to initiate the askers. He told that NO panj pyaare whether "men or women" can initiate the new ones, because only Guru has the right to initiate the new comers. So what actually happens in the ceremony is, after panj pyaare do ardas to start the sanchaar process by first reading five bani's. Then they collectively do ardas along with sangat to Guru Granth Sahib Jee maharaj to allow them to distribute the amrit to the seekers. Now, here is what happens as this highly spiritual told us, light(jot) from Guru Granth Sahib enters the body of the panj pyaare's and Guru himself initiate the new ones. He says that women who were in panj pyaare service, light did not enter their body, so real amrit process is interrupted; though outwardly we can say we got amrit. Also light did not enter disabled ones too.
    Why light(jot) did enter men and not women/diabled ones, who knows, why? except guru himself, and we can ask this question to Guru himself only when we meet him (means we need high spiritual stage) and we need to be amritdhari for that.
    My point is even if we want to be critical of this account as told by this person, why would we take risk of taking amrit from women/disable ones. It is already established that sikhs who take amrit from five men, reached to the god, brahamgyaan, history told us. Does we have account of single brahamgyani initiated by women.
    All the effort we put in, nitnem, waking early/doing simran, and what if nothing happens after we are initiated by women. If after our demise we ask god; I did everything you told, but no spritual stage for me, why? God could say who told you to do man-mat and take amrit which you think is suitable. We wont be able to answer it.
    So, my point is why take risk just to prove your thinking right, when Guru says leave your thinking at the door.
    Dont ask why this, why that, Just use your mind to accomplish what Guru told you to do, Simran, Rehat and Gurbani. Don't be a wise-ass.
    This comment for satkiran never say that any person here on this forum or any where else can speak for Guru, If Guru want to talk to you, he will do himself, he did not need us to speak for him. If you want to know what Guru thinks ask Guru Granth Sahib jee maharaj, take hukamnama.
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    ibrute got a reaction from tva prasad in Sweet Nectar Taste in Mouth From Simran   
    I read in some abhiyasi book that this ru sound strikes the navel point and lotus at the navel centre which is in downward direction facing genitals for general folks (non mantra practising ones) then start blossoming in upwards direction towards our heads. Here abhiyasi saw darshan of Lord's feet. It is mentions in Sohila sahib's 3rd shabad.
    hir crx kvl mkrMd loiBq mno Anidnuo moih AwhI ipAwsw ] 
    ik®pw jlu dyih nwnk swirMg kau hoie jw qy qyrY nwie vwsw ]4]3] 
    Ratwara Sahib Sant Jee specifically told to elongate this ru sound.
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