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Masti

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  1. Tried the download a few times and didn't get anything ! Anyone got another link?
  2. Banji: The only reason for my answer was, cos' I am a Man and wrote the reply from a Man's point of view, to a Man. If I had been a Woman I would have written the opposite, 'why doesn't GOD the wife have a husband ?' So, quite rightly as scripture shows, The Creator is 'Pita' and The Creator is 'Mata' ie, Father & Mother. When Man & Woman were created on Earth by The Creator, were they meant to procreate or not to procreate, that is the question ? The scripture you have quoted does not show or prove Marriage ?
  3. I've been told by countless Sikhs that the only way to meet GOD is through scripture and The Guru. I've also recently been told by those at the Forum, that GOD in/with Me ? Well, what's your opinion on this....? What do I have to do to meet HIM?
  4. Is this confirmed by the Guru Granth Sahib, meaning can you please quote any scripture which backs your suggestion ? Dont get me wrong or I hope I dont make you feel angry or anything, but even the Bible (as an example) confirms that the Original Sin is caused by the Woman tempting Man to eat the forbidden fruit, which leads them to into an existence of knowing the Knowledge of Good & Bad, but not TRUTH ! Secondly, does GOD HIMSELF have a WIFE ? If anyone can prove that HE has then, I bow down to their Divinity....! So when you state Sikhi, what does that mean? Does that mean Sikhs in the majority want to procreate and multiply because they cant help it or does that mean it's just something which we all feel ? The Granth Sahib (correct me if I'm wrong) encourages you to mentally abandon all Worldy attachment and take up the TRUTH WITHIN, to gain Everlasting Life. Why then are you suggesting or assuming because the Guru's (except One) were all married that we as Sikhs MUST ALSO MARRY ? To the contrary, as Sikhs were assimalated from Hindus, Muslims, Gujarati's, Bengali and other factions within India at the Time, that practice was continued by the converted Sikhs, even till today. If WE ALL AS SIKHS were to trace our ancestry back to the inception of Sikhism, how many of us could stand up and say that we were confirmed SIKHS at the Time of the Guru's? Hardly, Id say..........! So, in all honesty, Sikhi DOES NOT ENCOURAGE IT, but people being people, do it !
  5. One cannot serve TWO MASTERS, keep a foot either side in the door, sit on the fence, ask for forgiveness for all your sins from GOD in the morning and then go and screw your neighbour's wife in the evening....and so on! When one tries to walk the tightrope between two points, YOU WILL FALL ONE DAY, regardless of your practice to stay the balance. Jesus didn't marry, neither did the Bhudda nor all of our Guru's ! So, those who feel they need marriage should quite rightly step into it with whoever they like as their groom or bride, but there are some who have abandoned the Worldly Way and cannot marry.
  6. Beautifully put Amardeep ! At long last an answer worthy of the question. You have something which most people miss out in Life...VISION, so consider yourself fortunate ! I guess it's back to school for me then......!
  7. Marry GOD instead mate, you wont get DIVORCED, HAVE CHILDREN OR LOSE YOUR INHERITENCE TO THE TAX MAN !
  8. Thank you for your reply and two very thought provoking links you put forward. Good work..................but ! The First Link Article Attempts to explain a conundrum of views in CONFLICT & CONTRADICTION and my initial requirement for the 'meaning of life' is lost in argument and controvesy. What I need an answer for is, why did GOD make Life and why are we existing in this Life, which would give me the answer to the Meaning Of Life. Religions throughout the World inlcuding Sikhism give us faith, beliefs, rituals, ceremonies, practices, penances, rewards, punishment, status, rank, privelege, family, inheritance and on and on and on and on...! This Article does not answer this question in any shape, form or matter .....sorry! I totally and rigidly dispute the ascertain that a Guru cannot be challenged on the Word he has given. If you are a father of a child, am I to assume that the child must always do the DICTATE of a father without question or can I DICTATE to my wife or partner in Life and keep them like a slave ? There have been many DICTATORS in this World and the majority of them are now lying in graves six foot under. One cannot DICTATE ANYTHING TO ANYONE without hatred, oppression, war and dispute rising to the fore. The human mind being what it is, will always be like that of a child questioning a father, as to why he or she must not play with fire. Lo! They still touch fire though.....! I CANNOT VISUALISE the GURU being a DICTATOR and me or you being a MINDLESS SLAVE, why weren't we made just made ROBOTS then? Why waste time giving us a mind to think, judge, experiment, try, propose or whatever...!! This link tells me what a Sikh should be, which contradicts with what the Article is suggesting. http://allaboutsikhs.com/rehat/rehat_01.htm#Art1 The Second Link Article Now this was very refreshing, unusal, thought provoking, very descriptive and concise in teaching me what OUR GOD is probably like. So, I'll need some time to get my head round all of this and then I'll push the debate further.
  9. Regardless of your preception about any Religion or The Creator Lord, the point you are making is that of BELIEVING ! Two types of people exist in our World, the Believers and the Non-Believers or sometimes known as The Doubters. Nothing to say about those who Believe, they already believe ! You fit in with the Non-Believers or The Doubters and help is on hand for people like you. You have to go to a Believer, find One in The Granth Sahib, Bible, Koran, Dhammpada, Vedas, Purannas or Others !
  10. If you were really doing SIMRAN, then you wouldn't even know what was happening around you, let alone your head. Try another SIMRAN !
  11. Thank you for the links, I will endeavour to comment about them after I've had a good read, but in the meantime I still reiterate my POINT: Jesus, Mohammed, Nanak, Ram, Buddha were all GURUS for their Religions and all of them were CREATED BY GOD. Why are you suggesting that the Sikhs should view the GURU and GOD as ONE ? These GURU'S quite Rightly Deserve OUR LOVE, but NO GURU I KNOW HAS EVER SAID THAT YOU OR ME SHOULD EVER PRAISE OR OBEY THEM LIKE A GOD ANYWHERE, EVEN IN THE GRANTH SAHIB. SO WHY ARE SIKHS BEING TOLD TO ASSUME THAT THE GURU AND THE LORD ARE ONE ? Pardon my stupidity, but by encourgaging people to believe that the GURU and GOD are ONE, wouldn't they miss out on GOD HIMSELF then ? Surely, the Guru's came to teach us mere mortals ABOUT GOD and not about THEM ? This reflects exactly what we do in Your Forum ! We all join and have different avatars, hoping to either reflect, amuse, make a point, challenge our personalities. So if you have a memebership of say 20,000 and all of them choose an avatar for themselves, what are the chances of them choosing an exact, identical, replica avatar to someone else in the Forum ? 20,000:1 Similarly, I understand your point that maybe Divine avatars are categorised like that, but essentially, ALL ARE FLAWED, EXCEPT THE ONE GOD ! By following the instructions of a Guru, one mere human like me can emulate ourselves to their Given Light and in Time be classified as a whatever Avatar, but critically...........we are ALL still ONLY HUMAN AND PRONE TO ERROR! The degree of our fallability then dictates our position in the range of avatars created EVERYWHERE !
  12. Thank You Kindly For The Welcome ! Hmmm...........if GOD is already Within Me like you say, why am I looking for Him then ? And, sounds like I need to Two Faced here, one minute I'm supposed to be Doing everything I do in the World, the next minute I'm supposed to change my suit and become a gaini-ji ? Why the HyPOCRISY my friend, surely NONE can serve TWO MASTERS ?
  13. Disagree With You Again....!! There are two types of Children, one who listen to their Parents and Do what Their Parents tell them and their are others, no matter how many times you tell them they dont DO what You tell them to do. Are you saying that those children who do as they are told to do by their parents (I'm sure you are one yourself) ARE LOVED MORE THAN THOSE who dont do what they are told to do by their parents ? Sounds like you believe in a GOD who may be PREJUDICED ? Think Again.........! ARE YOU OR ME ANY LESS SINNERS THAN SOMEONE ELSE IN THIS WORLD, ALL BECAUSE WE HAVE PRINCIPLES ?
  14. Totally Disgaree.....! The Sikhs were invented from Hindus, Muslims and Other Races in India at Time of Inception by the Tenth Guru. What's to say a hundred years from now, some DIVINE PROPHET might come along and MERGE the SIKHS, CHRISTIANS, MUSLIMS, BUDDHISTS AND THE REST OF THE RELIGIONS INTO ONE, ALL MIGHTY RELIGION FOR PLANET EARTH, JUST LIKE MONEY UNIVERSALLY UNITES ALL PEOPLES, ALL RACES ON THE PLANEY NOW ? And why do you refer to the Granth Sahib as a 'Living Guru'....? In my view this means a light that is alight or lit, (jagdi) awake not asleep in darkeness, like a candle glowing in the dark is surronded by darkness, but by bringing 'light or jot' the darkenss is eroded, but not completely obliterated. For their to be 'Light' there has to be 'Darkness'. One cannot be without the other. The Granth Sahib is like a Candle and it can be cloned into different formats for preservation. The Light which this DIVINE CANDLE GIVES cannot be Changed, but the type of candle giving the Light can be changed. Anything Material can be cloned, manipulated, changed for PRESERVATION SAKE, but the DIVINE LIGHT REMAINS THE SAME AT ALL TIMES, FROM THE DIVINE CANDLE. So, your assumption of the 'Living Guru' is wrong! The Divine Text contained within the Granth Sahib is LIVING to whosoever reads IT. For everyone else, ie those who do not read it and are pre-occupied with it's preservation are like the Darkness. So, when One reads the Granth Sahib and find the Light within, then they MERGE NOT WITH THE GURU, BUT WITH THE ETERNAL LORD HIMSELF, FOR EVEN THE GURU IS A CREATION OF THIS ETERNAL LORD. Your move..........!
  15. Good Question! Evolution occurs both Materially and Spiritually. Darwin propagated the 'evolution of the species' and how Nature adapts itself to a changing enviornment FOREVER or as long as the MATERIAL EXISTENCE remains. Our bodies generate and mutate accordingly through genetics to ensure the survival of the species. On the other hand, Spiritual Evoluton occurs inside the living Mind of a Human and this cannot be Quantified, Assessed, Controlled or even Analysized by ANYONE, except the Person making this change Spiritually. Balances and Imbalances between the Body and the Spiritual are all round us, which then makes You ask that you do ! Everything, but Everything is in Permanent Evolution and each one of Us has their own pace in IT !
  16. Nothing, they are both humans aren't they ? Maybe one just has a higher understanding of the Divine than the other......and that sadly cannot be MEASURED, or can it ?
  17. If that be true, why am I wasting time getting married, working, having friends, family, cars, holidays, more property, more money, more children and doing all the other things like everyone else? Is all this a joke ?
  18. Gets Better ! Everything that we VISUAL OBSERVE with our EYES is MATERIAL and EVERYTHING MATERIAL will remain here on Earth and decay to Dust. I dont think An Eternal God is really interested in what is MATERIAL, that's just DUST, ain't it ? So what you wear, what you smelt like, what tribe you from, what your hair looked like, did you get plastic surgery, what you observed in ritual, what you cut, where you went naked, who you procreated with to make another body, what castes, what, colour, what shape, what size and all the other things from the MATERIAL will all end up as DUST and NOTHING MATERIAL will go with us to the Next World, from this World, will It ? Waste of Time question this.............!
  19. Intriging! If I'm not mistaken, The Granth Sahib tells US that nothing lives forever and eventually Everything Created turns to dust. Why waste time then saving something when it can easily today in 2004 be scanned, photgraphed, copied and duplicated to even a higher standard of Material than it was originally set on? You, I and Everyone else in the World are Originals, no one wastes Time and Money preserving them ?
  20. If we all came from The One Eternal God in the first place, and religion tells us that we should now all try and get back to where we started from, I dont understand what is the purpose of Life here on Earth?. Anyone willing to enlighten me with some divine understanding, sounds like I'm in going round in circles ? 8)
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