manny

Akali Sirtor Singh Khalsa Sahib Excellent replies and you are spot on about some individuals here whose sole aim in life seems to be criticise anyone trying to do some panthic sewa. Lalleshvari If you are so knowledgeable why aren't you at the forefront writing articles against the wahabis?. Your claim that one needs to know arabic irfan. don't know what the fiqh that means!. you should go into the mosques and question all the mulsims there are if they don't have knowledge of these things then you should declare them false muslims and try and throw them out of the mosque. But your sole aim here is nindya of Gursikhs. Karan wale thore nindya karan wale jaade

oh brother! listen it's so damn obvious that even a monkey could work it out. ( no jokes about 'he just did' )

like i said they're both lying

i think they are both lying

I take it that Lalleshvari is referring to the supposed devi puja incident when he says Guru Gobind Singh got a Havan done. Please read 'Devi Puja Partal' by Bhai Vir Singh. In this book he totally destroys this event using scholarship of the highest order. Lalleshvari perhaps you could read the book too and let us know whether it's changed your mind about this event regards manny

Amritji Are you saying that it's a good thing that Sikhs fought over Maryada and that some Punjabi Sikhs were murdered and thrown in the Godavari river ?. Seems strange that a Sikh would seemingly praise murder of fellow Sikhs just because he want's to try and talk up Hazoor Sahib?. I seriously doubt that such a thing took place and may be one of many fairy stories that the management of Hazoor Sahib indulge in. But one thing that is shocking is that someone as seemingly intelligent as yourself would praise the murder of sikhs by other sikhs. I see that you are from Punjab so it's no wonder that Sikhi is in such as bad way with people like you there. I have one sugeestion for you. Instead of wasting your time here indulging in petty fights and praising murder of fellow Sikhs and thus getting praise from Guru ka Nindak your time would be better spent doing sewa and parchar in the villages of Punjab. You keep going on about ancient sikh literature but isn't there a tradition that Guru Gobind Singh specifically stated that he DID NOT want any buildings or Gurdwara to be constructed at Hazoor Sahib?. If so then where does this leave your attempt to give importance to this place. There is only ONE Takht that is built by a Guru and that is Akal Takht. Manny