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  2. 1 hour ago, Kira said:

    There's much debate on whether Buddhism should be classed as a religion due to that very notion, although they don't believe in a god they do believe breaking free from creation. Sort of similar to how many other religions perceive enlightenment.  

    Its not that simplistic bro. They dont beleive in God in abhramic sense as they beleive in Absolute non dual reality/Non dual God reality without abhramic notions. See- Buddhist sutra including heart sutra- gate gate for more info, for example- form(sargun) is empitness(nirgun), empitness(nirgun) is form(sargun). They also have buddhisatva - realized awakened beings equivalent to bhramgyanis, and also beleive in  buddhist gods -sargun devotion spread out in various different school of thoughts/sects within Buddhism.

  3. I just watched the original video, good one. Yup, you should be dharam yudha and able to kill your own meat and eat it. However, i wish gyani goes little bit of depth behind nihangs symbolism behind doing chandi di var patt upon doing jhatka and whole metaphysics behind shakti and jhatka aspect. 

  4. Sangat ji, need your help with your feedback revamping rank titles as they seem bit outdated and cheesy when i think about it now...lol. Here is the current set up... any feedback on new title/ranks... or we can disable them. Let us know either way.

    Nayana Bacha||Nayani Bachi 10  
    Sayana Bacha||Sayani Bachi 50  
    Ladla||Ladli 100  
    Pradhan||Biba with Kainchi Vargi Zubaan 200  
    Jathedar||Jathedarni 600  
    Senior Jathedar|Vada Jathedar|Vadi Jathedarni 1000


  5. 1 hour ago, Guest said:

    A lot of what sufi  islam is a mix of bhudist and vedanta it's clearly obvious the chakra all come from Hinduism and the Muslims or sufi ppl have just renamed them blatant plagarism the quran doesn't talk about chakra or energy centres it's all bloody lies. 


    Ermm or It could be that all paths  leads to the same truth or aspects of truth where there are more similarities than differences. 

  6. 38 minutes ago, akalpurkh said:

    Yes, Going forward, the stages dharam khand, gyan khand, saram khand, karam khand and sachkhand are elaborated in Guru Granth Sahib but nowhere it says or promotes COUNTING.

    Bro, why are you not understanding, the whole story started on COUNTING & when I showed you shabads from Guru Granth Sahib Ji that totally rejects the concept of Counting, you are just creating whole new stories. Why don't you just accept what's written in Guru Granth Sahib?

    Counting is just an aid tool out of many tools in naam simran to do encouragement comes in form of bhagti intial stages by product of intial stages in nine different types of bhagti fall under dharam khand. It's a stage not a maryada. I grew out of it as i used to do it.

  7. 11 minutes ago, akalpurkh said:

    Counting Contrary to Gurmat

    Gurbani rejects this nonsense. Because all calculations or all calculated Bhagti is in false ego-sense (Haumai). Consider these verses:

    • ਹਉਮੈ ਸਭਾ ਗਣਤ ਹੈ ਗਣਤੈ ਨਉ ਸੁਖੁ ਨਾਹਿ ॥: All accounting is in egotism. In this accounting, there is no Peace (sggs 36).
    • ਗਣਤੈ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਨ ਪਾਈਐ ਦੂਜੈ ਭਰਮੀਤਾ ॥: Ganatai prabhoo na paaeeai doojai bharameetaa: God cannot be obtained by counting; the mortal wanders in doubt — Maya, duality etc. (sggs 510).

    This Giaan of the Gurbani is also meant for the Sikhs!! If we don’t believe it then we are not Sikhs. the Gurmat and Saakat-Matt are two different and opposing things. All counting is for the conditioned or material being (Manmukh, Saakat, Mayadhaaree…) for his life or world is in the realm of calculations — egoism or Maya.

    There is no counting or calculations for the one who has become the Gurmukh (one who lives the Shabad-Giaan, Gur-Giaan, Gurmat…); because he knows he is not separate from God. He thus relieves himself of all egoistic or mental calculations through the constant abidance in his Joti-Svaroopa within.

    So the Gurbani urges us to stop counting beads and become the Gurmukhi.

    • ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਸਗਲੀ ਗਣਤ ਮਿਟਾਵੈ ॥: Gurmukh sagalee ganath mittaavai: The Gurmukh erases all calculations (sggs 942).

    I study that as spiritual development, just as baby is not taught phd stuff right away just like that spirituality is bit like that, everything in stages- above discourse should be look at intial steps to draw seeker in then provide updesh from gurbani as you posted to transcend  them. Every dharam has four stages- shariat, tariqat, marfat, hakikat, contextualization and conceptualization is key. See it as stage there are no conflicts there.

    Gian of gurbani is *NOT*  the missionary stuff teaches about being good person, have good morals and rest of simplistic way its about knowning who you are - our jot saroop - mool saroop- jot saroop- advai purkh- non dual aware being. So that final stages takes bit of time for many seekers. Hence, you see intial bhagti sharda updesh like that of drawing seekers in slowly in stages- bhagti, shabad and then finally gyan (its not standard for everyone as everyone is at different stage but its bit of framework older sikh spiritual orders are given to have some structure). 

  8. One can relate to five khands as part of their spiritual meditative experience as they spiritually evolve for eg- gyan khand - gyan khand mein gyan parchand - meaning- awakening of one's pure cognition (perception) of divine knowledge- feeling/pure spontaneous knowningness such as divine insights usually appears in spacious meditative state which points towards underlying essence reality of all-everything and everyone.



  9. 9 minutes ago, GurpreetKaur said:

    Well it makes those men look stupid too, it that makes a woman look like a deciever. Moral of the story acc to my monkey mind is, women can easily deceive a man with their looks and charm and men are stupid that they can't see what is right or wrong lol. And those men are in lust too so nobody wins here. I like that charitar next one please lol 

    Exactly, its not like this charitar make men look great. It made men look like they think with their ___. Yet we don't see men compalining about it how unfair the insinuation . We take it face value and learn to grow from it unlike crazy feminist who scream sexism non sense.

  10. Satkiran if you think moral of the story is made out to be that she looks like a slut only then you are missing the plot. Yes story insinuates she is acting slut but thats just one aspect of story not whole. It also give her credit (credit where its due) of being more smarter than men:

    she had full consciouness of understanding the highs and lows of life

    This statement holds true not just in this story but all aspects of her life. 

    Thats a moral of the story, its all pointing towards above in bold, forget the nitty gritty details of the story, don't psychoanalyze it too much, moral of this charitar is - she was much more smarter than both of these men, she was able to convince thinner one in acquiesce and other fatter one easily when it comes to getting out of trouble by providing compliment statements to him to get out of the situation. 

  11. I am not saying anything about donation. I don't think we should cut out donation to site itself just because some of it members have some ideological differences when it comes to sikhi. That site has still has good stuff and has much common ground material which all sikhs can agree on. World isn't black and white.

  12. 32 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:

    Are you sure about this? 

    I can vouch for what  Xylitol said . They don't beleive in naam simran especially singh sabha in canada they call it parroting - taking away devotional aspect in Sikhi. They beleive in gyan and sach-sat which is quite fine if they really know the actual meaning of gyan of one self and sat-truth in gurbani but their version of gyan and truth-sat is reduced to everyday worldly knowledge and truthful living- civil quality of civil citizen which is way too simplistic when it comes to gnosis of Guru relationship with Sikh and it also takes away all of mysticism, spiritualism from gurbani.

  13. 11 hours ago, BhagatSingh said:

    Stated another way, Hukam is the present moment.

    In simple words, Hukam is the here and now.


    From Jap ji Sahib -

    "How can one realize the truth that all is impermanent?
    By staying with the current of the eternal present moment one can recognize things for what they truly are.

    What is the eternal present moment?
    The eternal present moment cannot be stated, you can only be with it. But know that it is in the present moment in which things take form, in which living beings come to life, in which greatness is obtained, in which one becomes high or low, in which pleasure and pain is received. Everything is happening inside this eternal moment, there is nothing outside of it."



    Awesome simply awesome, you put it quite eloquently. 

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