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You must be having a phacking laugh. Divans are not supposed to be like rock concerts. I know another preacher who had rock concerts Divans...what was his name? OH YEAH RAM RAHIM. The two have a lot in common actually...their arsehole seems to be where their mouths are. Gurbar Akaal!
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I can answer all these for you: Gurbar Akaal!
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You forgot the Sihari on the end of Bhagat
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Dasam Granth Banis For A Not Amrit Dhari Yet?
MrDoaba replied to beginner's topic in Meditation | Simran | Bhakti | Jap
There are two different versions. One is Buddha Dal and the one you want is the Hazoori version. You can find in here: http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/downloads/Gurbani/Das-Granthi-Pothi.pdf -
My point exactly beere.
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Why have you quoted me? Bhagat is the one who said the Paathi in the video isn't pronouncing the Siharis (cus he has no idea what a Sihari is) I don't really care what he did or didn't say on how Sihari should be pronounced. Santhiya ta kade layi ne ohne, hun saare Sampardavan naalon jaade jaan da ah. You try saying "Gurprashadi" in Santhiya and dekhi je salotar bajj da ja nahi.
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Okay that's good, keep practicing it until you get it right. Your Ustaad, when you get a proper one, will stop you many times. I know which Siharis you are talking about, but thanks for the clarification. Your ears are untrained to hear the Paathi's pronunciation because you are making up rules out of thin air. He is pronouncing all the Matre as they should be...you just don't know what sound they make. All your comments about personal preference and dialect don't mean jack. Colloquial Punjabi and Gurbani Uchaaran are two different things. If you spoke to ten different Ustaads they would all give you the same answer with small variations, nothing as wild as you are suggesting. When you write Aadi, the transliteration would be read and pronounced as Aadee - ਆਦੀ...like how we read Swami. This is incorrect. It's Aad-e(h) or Aad-ay. And don't bother explaining what you think Bihari and Sihari sound like because everything you have said so far, is incorrect according to the standards of Gurmukhi rules. You also seem to be mistaking the grammar rules of Gurmukhi with those for Devanagari. In Devanagari the Sihari and Bihari (or whatever they are called) are used interchangeably at times. Other vowels also sound different. The rules for Gurbani pronunciation are distinct. For example: In Devanagari मंगल मूरति would be written and pronounced ਮੰਗਲ ਮੂਰਤੀ in Gurmukhi, not ਮੰਗਲ ਮੂਰਤਿ. This does not mean that ਮੂਰਤਿ is pronounced like ਮੂਰਤੀ or vice versa. They are distinct sounds...Gurbani has distinct sounds and pronunciation. Another example: In Devanagari सति is pronounced ਸਤੀ in Gurmukhi, however, it can also be written सती in Devanagari but still have the same meaning. If I wrote ਸਤਿ, not only would it sound different to सति/सती, it also has a different meaning. Either way, the sounds/rules of Gurmukhi and Devanagari are different even if they behave somewhat similarly...they are different Lippi's after all. One can write out a line of Gurbani but cannot expect to write it out with the exact corresponding characters as Devanagari. One would have to make changes to replicate the sounds. I mean tbh, no one has agreed with anything that you've said...you are literally making up your own rules, and still going against the accepted rules when you have been corrected continuously. Forgive me for saying but if you were ever to spend time with proper Gyaani Dhyaani Gursikhs, the lessons in Nimrata you learn would hit you like a ton of bricks, and your hankaar would break as if an earthquake has taken place. Maharaaj tenu buddhi bakshan.
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Please point out some examples of where he isn't pronouncing the Siharis. In fact most would say he is pronouncing them very clearly. Do you even know what sound a Sihari makes? You need to do your Muhaarni bro, pher tenu patta lagu. Actually, have you/do you ever practice your Muhaarni?
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Haanji beere, I'm aware. I just explained in English to make the comparison between this Maryada and Havan.
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@BhagatSingh Listen to this recording, it is pretty shudh IMO. You will get a better idea of siharis, aunkars etc
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No problem. I'm genuinely not sure what kind of Havan Nirmalas do..I wouldn't be surprised if they do perform Vedic ones though. Naamdharis and Nihangs do Sikh Havans. Also, at Akhand Paaths which follow full Maryada, they have someone for dhoop duty...which essentially is akin to a Havan. Same kind of smagari used, albeit sprinked over burning coals rather than an open flame for the duration of the Paath. This may be a good example of link you posted earlier about cleansing the air. I'm not sure if the meaning of this part of Maryada goes any deeper though (it may well).
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Why isn't Mata Sahib Devan Ji mentioned in the Ardaas?
MrDoaba replied to MrDoaba's topic in Sikhi | Questions and Answers
Good points beere. I will say though however, even if we put aside the deeper theological arguments for a second, Mata Ji still warrants a specific and complete mention in the Ardaas, at least for Her conspicuous role as the Mother of the Panth. -
Dhandri has become, for lack of a better word, an utter sap. Even when he was okay, and I say okay cautiously, he wasn't anything special. I did like his Kirtan though. Shame he is now a sap, as are his chele. Gurbar Akaal! N.B. I am not affiliated with any Samparda.
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Recently I have been pondering over this a lot...why isn't Mata Ji mentioned in the Ardaas? Almost all the key figures in the Panth throughout history and currently are mentioned either directly or indirectly, but oddly enough the Mother of the Panth has no mention. Not only that but Mata Ji has generally been sidelined and treated as a background figure up until recently where there has been (somewhat) more awareness of Her status, which in actual fact is a very exalted status; Mata Sahib Devan Ji is the Puran Sargun Saroop of Adi Shakti. Why isn't She talked about more? Why do we not do Ardaas to Her? Why is She not remembered or invoked on a daily basis? Aside from a brief mention on Baisakhi there is nothing. The Mother of the Sikh Panth, of the Khalsa, Jagat Mata, is Adi Shakti Herself. We are blessed. And we as a Panth need to take it upon ourselves to pay homage to Her, and give Her the utmost respect and reverence. Mata Ji is Ang Sang Sahai... ਖਾਲਸਾ ਦੇ ਮਾਤਾ ਆਦਿ ਸ਼ਕਤੀ ਸ੍ਵਰੂਪ ਧੰਨ ਮਾਤਾ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦੇਵਾਂ ਜੀ ਸਭ ਥਾਈਂ ਹੋਇ ਸਹਾਇ ॥ Please share your thoughts. Gurbar Akaal!!!
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Brahm Kavach Havans are still performed today. This is simply a Vedic Havan being performed by Sikhs. In a Sikh Havan Gurbani is used afaik, but the procedure does not really differ..slight variations on Smagari maybe.
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I am having the confusions here brother. Are you saying that these words are pronounced with Sassa pair bindi?
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Exactly bro. All these faujis take it. I've seen them literally take a handful of ground dodeh, shove it in their mouth, and down it with a can of red bull. They manage to pull some long ass shifts that's for sure. What you've stated above is true. Does dependent, so it can make you doped. Those pills I posted are for exactly that, they take em before sex, it's all in the name: Kaamni. It's actually marketed as a sexual tonic.
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While it probably does have pain killing properties they don't actually use it for that. They use it for its stimulant effect bro. Big misconception is that it makes you doped out and slow, quite the opposite. Still very addictive if not used correctly. Basically taking kaali naagni is phatteh chakne. Gives you josh.
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Ingredients : Akarkara, Sonth, Clove, Caffron, Pipal, Nutmeg Javitri, Chandan, Hingul, Sulphur and Opium. It might be these, ayurvedic opium. Same thing.
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I just said I'm an outsider to this bro so I would not have the kind of hard proof you are asking for. I can't go into details but I know for a solid fact he is into extortion. Straight up racketeering. He's tried to extort a member of my family. And he sends his pagal heavies to intimidate. Begairat would actually get his men to kill another innocent Singh - that's where the issue had got to almost. His men are mental cold blooded killers. And it's not a secret he's a gangster.
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As an outsider even I can say even I know that Balbir is stone gangster.
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Ah must be Proxyvon and Kaimni pills!
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How was your trip to the Gurdwara?
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Fair enough brother. My confusion is stemming from the the way that FB post was worded. Ok so a decision has been made. I get that. He's been summoned by Baba Ji. I get that. Here's the bit I think isn't clear. I can't tell what they're alluding to: In the name of Baba Surjit Singh he has been given one last chance to exercise the Maryada of Guru Gobind Singh Ji as an Akaali Farladhari Nihang Singh. Do they mean he's been given a chance to carry on as an Akaali Farladhari Nihang Singh? Or do they mean exercise the maryada in the sense that he better drag his ass to Hazoor Sahib ASAP? You said you can't punish a Farladhari but the post states he's already under punishment and also still refers to him as one? Do you see my confusion?
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So he assumed he wouldn't have to turn up. The excommunication was void so to speak (from his perspective). Now he has no choice. The FB post still refers to him as Farladhari so you could make a conclusion from that possibly.
