Asha

Can someone please please please please tell me which TV station in the UK is showing the Asia Cup?? Please let me know because it starts on the 16th and I am a big cricket fan and need to see my boys kick some asian ass. Havent seen them play in a long long time. So would be grateful if someone would let me know asap. Cheers!!

Japan killed 2,000 American soldiers at Pearl Harbor and America turns around and kills over 150,000 civilians in two major Japanese cities. I also forgot to mention how America victimized Japanese-American citizens by taking their land, taking their belongings, and shoving them into concentration camps. Roosevelt waited far too long to respond to Hitler's aggression and oppression and then finally when America got an extra pea added to its pea-brain and did something, it later turned around and treated the Japanese like animals.

*Genocide of American Indians *Black Slavery *Puritanical Witch Hunts *Genocide of African Tribes *Theft of an Entire Country *Murder of Hawaiians and Theft of Hawaii *Continued Exploitation of Puerto Rico *Severe Discrimination Against Blacks *Severe Discrimination Against Women *Severe Discrimination Against Asians *Ignoring the Jewish Holocaust During WWII Until It Was Too Late *Unconstitutional Violence and Imprisonment against Anarchists and Communists in the 1880-1920 Period *Unconstitutional Cold War Policies against Communists *America being the only nation in the world to drop nukes and also being the only nation to advocate using more nukes to fight "terrorism" after already using nukes to burn innocent men, women, and children to death *Violence and Murders of Anti-War College Protestors Who Protested Vietnam *Illegal War in Vietnam and Unconstitutional Draft of Soldiers *Illegal War in Korea *Illegal CIA operations in Iran, Pakistan, Guatemala, Venezuela, Colombia, and Cuba, to name a few *Did you know that America GAVE Saddam WMD's during the Iran-Iraq War in violation of International Law and pretended to the whole time to be on Iran's side? *Illegal Gulf War *Did you know that America was once buddies with Bin Laden and helped the present day Taliban come to power? *Illegal OIL (Operation Iraqi Liberation) *Unconstitutional Rounding up of Arabs and Muslims Including American Citizens *Reports of Torture of Illegal Prisoners *Human Rights Violations that Top Many Third World Countries in Terms of Executing Minors and Lists of Innocents (America is one of five nations in the WORLD to still execute minors) *I bet you didn't hear that in 2002, America led a CIA coup to attempt to overthrow Hugo Chavez in Venezuela to protect the American Oil Industry and used sniper attacks to murder innocent Venezuelan civilians by shooting them in the brains to make it look like Chavez's "side" was responsible *I guess you didn't know that all the resources that America uses to "fight Cocaine" in Colombia is actually used to protect oil there for America *Not only did they use Agent Orange in Vietnam, Vietnamese still suffer from it today; They are using similar chemicals to fight illegal drug wars even today in violation of international law *Illegal War in Afghanistan *Over 50 Years of Illegal Ties with Israel *Over 150 Years of Human Rights Violations by Supporting American-based Child Labor, Slave-wages, and horrible health and safety worker conditions in the third world (India is also an American victim). America is notorious for supporting such horrible labour around the world for its own profit *Illegal Surveillance via NASA's Sattellite system of other nations *Over 9,000 Civilians have been murdered in Iraq and Afghanistan as a result of Bush's Illegal "War On Terrorism" *Over 10 Years of an Illegal Embargo against Iraq, America is responsible for up to a MILLION Iraqi civilian deaths due to blocking imports of food and medicine *Numerous Reports that America Lied About What Really Happened on 9/11, including that it allowed a secret plane go to Saudi Arabia even though other planes were grounded *Discrimination against Homosexuals that has now been abolished in about half of the world *America contains more than 25% of the World's wealth *America is the world's worst country for foreign aid donations based on a proportion of its wealth *America is responsible for more than 25% of the world's environmental destruction

Hello to you too Jaswant!!!! Have a lovely day!!!

This is another site to check our Orchid. It's spot on Hope this helps you. And all those who are losing faith because God "doesnt answer our prayers"

Hey evrybody, I have me Alevel exams coming up in 4 weeks AND I havent finished my History coursework, so that is getting in the way of my revision. I have like all three Psychology exams in the same day one after the other and no break inbetween, double :-( :-( Anyway, GOODLUCK to the all of you. I hope you all get A* :!:

most of you are fair Panjabis and not black Hindu "Indians". Hi MI, I really do not appreciate you calling my fellow Hindu brothers and sisters that, It sounds rather racist to me. Could you please retract it. Thanks PS. I do not know why the moderaters didnt delete that bit. It shouldnt be allowed. :x

What about if a Sikh marrys a Hindu? Havent Hindus and Sikhs inter-married for centuries? Does the same rules apply here?

Sat Sri Akal Orchid. Sure Orchid, it is hard to become a veggie at first but then once you are into it, it becomes so much more easier. You have to take it in steps. Do not stop eating meat all in one go. I became a veggie when I was 11 years old (much to the annoyance of my family who are all meat-eating) and have been one since. What I did was lessen my intake of meat. I gradually took meat out of my diet, this made it alot easier for me. Perhaps you should try it too. As everyone has said, there are lots of meat substitutes. When someone offers you meat or you want meat just say no. Do not even think about it just say no. Goodluck

Sat Sri Akal. Thank you N30 Singh. I appreciate it. Hopefully I will be contributing more frequently to this board.

You like cric too ideal Singh? Did ya watch the match? I feel if Dravid decided to bowl first in the 2nd test then we couldve made it 3-0. Dont you think? Also I am glad that we have great yound fast bowlers like Irfan and Balaji, who can swing the ball.

Thanks Summet. You said you were studying Psychology in one of your last posts (?) I maybe studying it as Aston Uni this sept. Where are you at?

Hi everyone, I am a new member here. Only posted like one message. But that is because I mostly post on the BBC forum. But from what I have read on this site it is terrific. I am looing to make more of a contribution to this forum in the future. Moving onto myself.....My name is Asha. I am 18 years old (19 in June). I just got into Sikhi 8 months ago and in such a short space of time I have learnt ALOT. I wonder why I never paid much attention before (I blame my parents...always the parents fault...lol) Thanks to Waheguruji for putting me on the right path. I am going to University this year to study BSc Psychology. Wish me well. Oh and I absolutely LOVE cricket. Ofcourse India is my fav team next up is West Indies. Congrats to the Indian team for beating Pakistan in both the ODI's and the Test series. I watched every second of it. I love reading books and listening to music. and ummmmm....thats all God Bless You Allllll Waheguruji Ka Khalsa Waheguruji Ki Fateh.

I believe that there is more about this on site http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?th...eastern&sort=Te

Yes, Guru Hargobind Sahib and my beloved Guru Gobind Singh had three wives, and it was considered as nothing wrong keeping in mind the realities of those times. It is recorded in history, that after his second marriage, Guru Gobind Singh had decided not to marry again. When the third wife was offered to him in marriage, he accepted on the condition that he will not keep any type of physical relationship with her. When Mata Sahib (Kaur) Devan requested for a child, Guru Dasmesh put the Khalsa Panth in her lap. The Khalsa Panth, or rather every Sikh, accepts Guru Gobind Singh as his/her father and Mata Sahib Kaur as his/her mother. Let me explain this further. The first marriage took place with Mata Jeeto Ji, when Guru Sahib was just 11 years of age. After about seven years, at the insistence of his mother Mata Gujri, he accepted the offer of a second marriage. The offer came from Ram Saran Kumar, who offered his daughter Sundri in marriage to him. The third offer came to him after a gap of 16 years, when he was aged 34. The father of (Mata) Sahib (Kaur) Devan brought her to Guru Darbar, to be accepted by Guru Dasmesh as his wife. When Guru Ji plainly declined the offer, her father told him that he had, since her childhood, decided to offer his daughter to Guru Sahib in marriage, and even she was thinking the same in her mind and the people in the neighbourhood were all treating her as ‘mother’. So no one else would accept her in marriage. Guru Ji reluctantly agreed with the condition that he would not keep any physical relations with her, but if she thought fit, she could live in the house. The girl and the father accepted the condition and the marriage was solemnized. Guru Sahib had one son, the eldest Sahibzada (Prince) from his second wife Mata Sundri Ji, and three younger Sahibzadas from his first wife, Mata Jeeto Ji. Mata Sahib Devan bore no child, but Guru Sahib, as I’ve already mentiond, put the Khalsa Panth in her lap. Mata Jeeto Ji departed this mortal world during the lifetime of Dasmesh Pita, while Mata Sundri Ji. And Mata Sahib Devan, lived for about 40 years after the soul of Guru Sahib merged with the All Mighty, and directed the affairs of Khalsa Panth, while living in Delhi. I would like just to tell you that, whereas they did a lot for the uplifting and emancipation of women they did not have multiple wives to show their male superiority over women. Another view on this, given to me by another learned friend is that looking back on our ancient culture there are two types of sadhus: first one, who takes the vairagya path and does not marry, and the second one are those who marry but still remain away from the worldly affairs (I assume he meant the life of a householder). Our Gurus belonged to both these categories. Guru Nanak taught the people to follow the way of vairagya and grihasti. Now, from Guru Hargobind, a new phase was added to the Sikhism: soldier or khsatriya. As the khsatriyas were allowed in our ancient society to have multiple wives, the same “rules” applied to the sixth and tenth gurus. Our gurus, who remained pirs, only had one wife. The gurus, who were in the form of pir+mir, who was treated like a king, who planned for wars, kept arms and soliders, and in the domain kept multiple wives. But that does not mean that they were attached to maya. In this sense, they fulfilled their true kshatriya dharma. I believe that there was a definite meaning to our Gurus step, since all four sons of the tenth guru were martyred. Remember the Gurus were spiritual beings and not mere mortals like us, everything they did was Gods hukum (will). They acted as he told them to act. They spoke only what he told them to speak. They did this by command from the Akal. Think about all this with with great respect and don’t be too quick to judge. Every woman in the eyes of our Gurus were like Princesses to him, hence he gave us the surname “Kaur.” Women were and are the backbone of Sikh society and this is something that my Gurus always acknowledged regardless if they had more than one wife. Moreover, we as mortal beings and as humble Sikhs of our revered Gurus are not supposed to sit in judgment for their personal lives. I hope I have made myself clear. Thanks Welcome on board! Just to clarify on one point, Gur Har Rai also had multiple wives (in fact, 8 in total). Many perceive him to be more "Sant" than "Sipai", however the Kshatriya element was practised in its various forms by all Sodhi-lineage Gurus.