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Can anyone help me find or send me translations of : - popular bhajans sang by Pt Jasraj - The bhajans of teh Dagar brothers Or does anyone know of a site or forum that could help me Many thanks

this daal is fantastic!

so any answer to the question???

why do you people get so emotional aboutt this question? Answer his question, not deform his character. I'm interested to actually hear some answers here!

what is naad yoga?

kelari: would u know what Bhai Baldeep Singh is up to? Any recordings or videos to be released?

is it possible for a video of the talks to be uploaded in the future, or some transcript?

hopefully the evidence (CCTV, injuries and eye witness accounts) will be enough for prosecutions to take place. I hope that it does go all the way and a just punishment is given to these lunatics.

learn the vaaja? Didn't know any 'learning' was involved

kelari, are there any recordings of rabab and or pakawaj I could find?

also check out: http://www.gurmatsangeet.org/

Firstly let me say that this 'raising of awareness' is great, and much over due. Thanks to the hard work of the naamdhari Sikhs we have been kick started into a revival of Gurmat Sangeet and Raag sangeet. However we are only taking a small glimpse at Gurmat Sangeet. There are still major issues to consider in todays revival efforts. As we are coming from a background of zero knowledge of Raag, then we must understand that as an audience we are very much rock bottom, therefore as a consequence we haven't the ability to really look closely at the revival attempt. For instance, can any revival attempt (Naamdhari, Surinder Singh, etc...) be sure that what they are doing is reviving? Yes they are using Raag to sing shabads, however where have they learnt that knowledge from? Is it a genuine source of Gurbani Kirtan? With regards to the instruments, are these rived instruments a good approximation of the original? A good example is Surinder Singhs attempt to revive the Sarindha, it can be easily seen that he has modified the original. In short what i'm saying is, well done and best of luck with those who have started the revival, however as we progress theres some very serious issues that will need to be addressed. We are thankfully coming out and finally saying that the performance of Shabad kirtan outside raag is unacceptable, however we have just started something that is a long long line. AT least now we can see it, tho it may be just on the horizon as yet.

carrot, horse, cart, .... anyone else get the jist???? lol

excellent stuff By the way i doubt thats a 'tabla' more liekly a Jori which is particular to the Gurus court, it is slightly different. If you want to listen o the difference listen to Baljeet and Gurmeet Namdhari, whose table ji plays Jori/pakavach in shabads like 'Meri Abai'. This is only a tip of an ice berg, the thing to consoder most isn't the instruments but the singing itself, can any of us imagine real Druphad style? Would we even appreciate it being so uneducated in the Guru s music, and then you can appreciate the taanti saaj, jori, pakavach etc. At one time the whole of India came to Darbar sahib as the hub for musical excellence, now we have nothing but two 'Kungerees and a tabla'. And also don't forget that even though the 5th guru complosed his own music, the styles and majority of saajs are apart of a much greater heritage. To learn the Gurus sangeet we must be more open minded in our approaches. For example jsut liek in the indian musical world today, alot of the great ustads are musslman.

JKD... lol Let me tell you about some crazy ass Nihungs back home who would laugh at this stuff. Those boys work in very E A S Y to understand terms, This is my shotgun.... this is you dead. Bang goes JKD. (and ermmm, mixed in with a bit of the unmentionable good stuff, its a definite success!)