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nice pic, keep up the good pics coming in!

This is such a controversial issue, almost on every website this sort of issue goes on forever and ever. None of us really knew him personally so its difficult to say. From my personal views, I think that some of the many reasons why he was looked up to was cos of the fact that he revived the sikhs to come back to their religion, was one of the very few genuine Sikh leaders we had, he knew that oppositions wanted to destroy sikhi and he stood up as much as he could to prevent this. I know a few stories about Sant Ji that indicated that yes he was very much an enlightened person. He had earth moving 'powers' due to his spirituality and this had been witnessed by various people. In my opinion, whether or not he'll come back..we wont know, but God always sends the good people to guide us and I know that we have yet to wait for another leader(s) to come and help us throught these bad times. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Moderate Note: We think that main question has been answered which was the intention of this thread. And now allowing further discussion on this matter will lead to subjective responses and conflicts within certain members. We should consider Sikhism and Gurus higher than anyone on this earth. It is always good to follow Guru Granth Sahib. Sant Jarnail Singh was Sikh of guru like so many others. This discussion is locked in order to avoid any conflicts. You can visit site started by Dam Dammi Taksal to get more information regarding him. here is the URL. www.gursikhijeevan.com Also you can visit www.sikhnet.com and search their discussion for for sant Jarnail Singh and there are so many interesting discussion you can read.

C'mon man, thats a bit harsh. I have some Muslim girl mates, they seem content with their religion and family life. We cant generalise ??

^^^^ hey i work for Immigration, i'll help u send him back aimmeee bakwaas, its people who cause disctinctions between castes a breakdown in our unity.

I rekon u should ask ur Local Gurdwara first, see what they think and let them authorise this. (my friend was in a similar situation a few years back).

U know what, I actually think she was quite a good leader, but she messed up BIG time towards the end. If shes the greatest leader...that makes Mother Tereasa look like a dictator....

Thanks N30, Thanks for keeping the positive memories of Sant Ji alive. keep up the good work. Nice portrait of Guru ji too

HELL YEA!!!!!!!....there you go, cheers!

Thank you very much for the info. I dont want to turn this thread into another topic but I want to express the fact that Sant Ji woke the Sikh population up and revived us all. Reading about him brought me back into Sikhi and I respect him for that. He was the only man who could stand up to inequalities and practices against Human Rights. We shouldn't judge him, its all up to god to judge him. '1 man's terrorist is another man's Hero', thats all I have to say. And the CD is great! Atleast efforts are being made for the Sikh youth

Amardeep, (Aww@ the memories)..Have u got any pics of them? I was amazed at how fab the Nagar Kirtans were in India It was in Jallundhar Cantt Choni (shonii, dont know how to spell it), my Massi lives 3 minutes away from the main Gurdwara. Whilst we stayed there, my dad used to get up and do seva there and on Gurpurab, they handed him a Saropa due to his hard work..(great holiday for him !!) It was so great, they had Miri Piri Academy American Singhs and Singhani's (unfortunately I got so caught up in the fun that I didnt take pics of them- there were THOUSANDS of them). I really enjoyed it, there was noise - fireworks, kirtan, the band, vans and trucks from the early hours till the late at night. Outside the Gurdwara, there was a model plane full of fresh petals, it was HUGE..and as the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji passed, all the thousands of petals were tipped out. Every single street had Khalsa Flags up, and a different band..absolutely everywhere. Hindus/ Sikhs, people from the local Pinds ..everyone joined it. One thing, because my Massi's house is literally next to the Gurdwara, i got NO sleep..they'd start doing Kirtan from 4am every morning! and in addition to that there was a late night Jagrata (Hindu festival every night )...so when i got back to UK, I looked like I had 10 rounds with Mike Tyson..and had a lot of sleep to catch up! Amardeep, you should go back for a holiday end of October time, it all happens around then. I am going again for sure! :mrgreen: One question, I noticed that quite a few of the Gurdwaras dont serve Langar 24/7 (well this one didnt). People said that its due to poor people taking advantage. The only serve Langar on Gurpurabs/ Bhasakhi etc. Why is this? Why not 24/7? Surely thats wrong

Wow, heard of that story too, amazing

I dont know why people blame the girls, the guys are just as bad. Anyway, I dont want to create another topic here or agrue with any one! Its a problem which is significantly caused by lack of education and resources. Parents or upbringing is very important. If the parents dont educate their kids about Sikhi or make and effort to take them to Punjabi Schools or the Gudwara and teach them about Sikhi then as a result- the children will drift away. Look at Muslims as an example, they spend a lot of money on educational resources (at Universities I see sooooo many resources and stalls and so on). From a personal experience, I have sikh friends who dont even know who the Guru's are! So when it comes to the crunch- its all down to parents / education.

Dont mess with these guys! 8)

School Kids takig part; [highlight=red:96261411ce]girl power[/highlight:96261411ce]

I went to India recently and got caught up in this huge nagar kirtan clebrating Guru Nanak Dev Ji's Birthday. On of my fav parts was watching the Scottish Sardar Ji's band...WOW!! I'll post the rest later this week. I had such a fantastic time that day, probably one of the best moments in my life so far It'd be great to invite these guys to one of our Nagar Kirtans..!