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  1. Guru Gobind Singh ji sent his messengers to dhirmal to get back the Aad Granth. When they arrived there and requested the Aad Granth dhirmal got up and angrily said "i will not give it you. I would have given it to someone else but not Guru Gobind Singh Ji. If he is on the gaddi of Guru Nanak Sahib Ji then he should himself by his powers write the Granth down by himself. The messengers went back and told Guru Ji what dhirmal said. So Guru ji knew if he did not write down the Guru Granth Sahib then people will say what sort of a guru is he. Just like Narada Muni who doubted his guru. Narayan
  2. Here Kam this is the site: http://astrologerjolly.tripod.com/articlegorakh.htm
  3. No shaheediyan this is her personal site. Her is the link: http://www.gurumaa.com/who-is-god-spiritual-questions.php
  4. On Gurumaa's website i found this: Who is God? No one! It is just a fabrication and imagination of charlatans to keep man away from his own truth. God is just an idea, a belief created by smart people to fool you, rule on you. There is no God sitting up above in sky. If you ask a pig who is god then maybe that pig will think of some super pig and same goes with dogs, cats, rats, and human beings too assume that God is some super human power thus we have our father in heaven. God is an imaginary dream created by men so that they can entertain themselves and exploit others. So the pries
  5. Gorakh -- O Lord (Svami), you are the Master Teacher (Satguru Gosain), and I am but a disciple: may I put a question, which you would kindly reply to and resent not? To start with, what ideal (lacch) should the disciple put before him? Do tell me for you are the true Teacher. Macchendra -- Let the unattached (awadhu, avadhuta) live at the monastery (hat) or be on the road, resting in the shadow of the trees; he should renounce desire, cruelty, greed, delusion, and the illusion of Samsar (Kama, Krodha, Lobha, Moha and Samsar ki Maya); he should hold converse (gosht) with himself and contemp
  6. [/font:decce3df19] :evil: [glow=red:decce3df19]Lingam and Yoni in Sanskrit means the male and female sexual organs respectively. Hindus are allowed to worship anything - including sexual organs. It is not unknown for them to name their children as Shiva Lingam (God Shiva's sexual organ) or Rama Lingam (God Rama's sexual organ), (in some places in Karnataka, the gods demand both male and females to pray naked together[/glow:decce3df19]
  7. [/font:83208e99ee] [fade]According to the Ramayana, the Aryans (Brahmins) used to drink liquor (nine different kinds), eat beef, marry many wives and prostitution was an accepted way of life amongst the priests and gods. "Sura" means alcoholic drink. All the Aryan gods drink "sura" and hence they are called suras as against a suras wo don't drink. Ravana was an asura. Periyar E.V.Ramaswamy, a great Hindu leader of Tamil Nadu, was a worshipper of Ravan because Ravana was a Dravidian. Ramanaya also recounts the story of king Dasaratha who, in order to have a baby son, made a big sacrifi
  8. Like ghosts, man kills the beasts and eats carrion - the forbidden eat. ( Tilang, Fifth Mehl, First House panna 723) Even the works of Bhai Gurdas ji which are considered the key to the Gurbani, also clearly forbids meat eating: _ _ If Putna received deliverance (there was mystical reason for it but her profession) poisoning others was not good. Similarly, if the butcher (Sadhna) received redemption (it was due to mystical reason, however, his profession was not good). As such one should not have any misconception with regard to killing of living beings.
  9. Here is a picture of Gyani Thakur Singh Ji: http://www.sarabsanjhigurbani.com/products...mp;raghieid=315
  10. Such persons who eat meat obtained by killing innocent animals, have been referred to as evil spirits or demons or witches in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji:
  11. Hence, in light of Gurbani, there remains absolutely no doubt, and there can be no two opions about the prohibtion of foods obtained by killing other animals. Gurbani has also clearly decreed that even eating simple and ordinary food obtained through falsehood, deceit, subterfuge, deception and through wrongful possession is equivalent to eating a corpse. Guru or Pir will only help if one refrains from such foods obtained through wrongful means which are as bad as carcass. hak paraa-i-aa naankaa us soo-ar us gaa-ay. gur peer haamaa taa bharay jaa murdaar na khaa-ay. (Nanak) another's ri
  12. kabeer bhaaNg maachhulee suraa paan jo jo paraanee khaaNhi. tirath barat naym kee-ay tay sabhai rasaatal jaaNhi. ||233|| Kabeer, those mortals who consume marijuana, fish and wine - no matter what pilgrimages, fasts and rituals they follow, they will all go to hell. ||233|| (Salok Kabeer Jee, page 1377) kabeer khoob khaanaa kheechree jaa meh amrit lon. Kabeer, the dinner of beans and rice is excellent, if it is flavored with salt. hayraa rotee kaarnay galaa kataavai ka-un. ||188|| Who would cut his throat, to have meat with his bread? ||188|| (Salok Kabeer Jee, page 1374) It i
  13. Dynamic Banda and all sangat please give references from gurbani and other sources saying eating meat, bhang, and alcohol is alright to take. Let us compare. I am not stopping everyone from eating meat i cannot do that. People will go on eating meat. I just want to say it is against Gurbani. If people want to eat meat let them, it is their freedom of choice brother.
  14. RE: ARGUMENT NO. 1 The meat-eaters of the Sikh community generally assert that ther is no restriction on any kind of eatables in Sikhism. To eat or not to eat meat, is left to the discretion, choice or taste of each individual. This assertion is absolutely baseless. According to the Sikh Way of Life, only those types of food are permitted, by eating which both, body and mind become healthy and fully developed which would help in enhancing their capacity to do sewa and Simran. All the foods and stuff, whose use makes the body and mind lethargic, e.g. tobacco, poppy, hemp, opium, liquo
  15. (4) If killing of the chicken, goat, partridge, quail, etc., is considered as slaughter of living beings, then the other most common eatables like wheat, beans, milk, water etc., also contain living organisms. Therefore, those who eat these foods, cannot escape this blame too. (5) Those who do not eat meat, become cowards or chicken-hearted. (6) Meat is a very nourishing food that makes one healthy and robust. Let us, now, examine each of the above-mentioned reasonings in the light of Gurbani.
  16. (3) In old Sikh literature there is no mention of any restriction on eating meat. Rather meat has been mentioned therein as one of the foods prepared in the Langar in times of the Gurus themselves.
  17. (2) In Sikhism the only restriction is on eating meat obtained by killing the animal in Kosher fashion i.e. the Muslim method of killing the animal while reciting KALMA (the Muslim holy formula). As against this, there is permission in Sikhism to eat meat obtained by killing the animal by Jhatka i.e. with one stroke while reciting 'Sat Sri Akal' (the Sikh holy formula).
  18. GENERAL ARGUEMENTS IN SUPPORT OF MEAT-EATING. Those who support the religiosity of meat-eating in Sikhism generally offer the following arguements: (1) In Sikhism there is no restriction on eating any food. To eat or not to eat meat, depends on one's own personal preference and taste. According to Gurmat, the only criterion for selection of food to eat, is that the food chosen should not cause disease to body and not result in pollution of the mind. In support of this reasoning they cite the following quotation from Gurbani by changing the actual wording to suit their interpretation:
  19. I would love to Hari, but i do not know how to. If you know a way please tell.
  20. Thus the gist of the whole discussionis that by attributing the sole responsibility of the wide-spread use of the liqour and meat amonst the Sikhs at large to illteracy among majority of Sikh masses, we are side-tracking the main issue. It is definitely the Sikh religious leadership who is responsible for this state of affairs because majority of them addicted to these vices, are propagating the same deliberately.
  21. Just like mis-nomer of KarahPrasad, some hemp-loving people have given the mis-nomer of Sukh Nidhan (Treasure of happiness) to hemp and liquor has been given the mis-nomer of panj Ratni (i.e. admixture of five precious elements) meaning most precious drink. In this way they are following the practice of Vam Margis (Vam Marg is a so-called religious cult of the hindus wherein meat and liquor are considered as auspicious foods and unrestricted sex has religious sanction). However, such repugnant practices have no place in the Khalsa Way of Life. By giving a virtuous and attractive name to a d
  22. In the congregation of the Gursikhs, some devotees bring sweet eatables, some bring Mahan Prasad(most sacred food i.e. Karah Prasad) and some invite Gursikhs to celebrate Gurpurbs. (Bhai Gurdas Ji, Kabit 309) Sugar, ghee, flour, water and fire, when all combined, the resultant product becomes KARAH PRASAD i.e. food comprising of five blissful ingredients. (Bhai Gurdas Ji, Kabit 124) They bring new earthen pots filled with water (for free service of drinking water). (they also) bring MAHA PRASAD (i.e. KARAH PRASAD) for serving (in the Sangat). (Bhai Gurdas Ji, Var 20, pauri 10)
  23. WIDE CONSUMPTION OF LIQUOR AND MEAT AMONG THE SIKHS-WHOSE FAULT? It is very strange that the sikh community, for whom the highest moral standards have been set by the Gurus, sizeable number out of it has not been able to escape these vices. This has resulted in the downfall of Sikh Society socially and morally. The eminent leaders of the community on the so-called illiteracy and lack of education in the masses in general, especially in the remote areas. To some extent it may be true. However, the one greatest reasdon is that the majority of the religios preachers and other important peo
  24. Similarly, when a sikh combs his hair, it doubtlessly results in the removal of some broken or dead hair, but despite all this he is not considered an apostate but is considered a devotee who strictly follows life in accordance with the Gursikh Code of Conduct. As against this, one who cuts his hair just to follow the general fashions prevalent amonst others, becomes immediately an 'Apostate'. Literally speaking fall of hair is there in both the processes but the underlying intention is definitely different. In the former case, the intention is to respect the Keshas and in the latter it is
  25. MEAT AND OTHER FOODS Meat-eaters further argue that even those who are strict vegetarians, commit homicide while eating grains etc., because all these foods also contain live organisms. This arguement also is rendered absolutely baseless and off the mark when analysed in the framework of Gurbani's guidelines. Sikhism is a way of life which enjoins neither total attachment nor total detachment. It belives in a life of equipose i.e. internal detachment in an environment of attachment. Food has been provided by the Creator/Sustainer and it must be eaten to sustain life and not merely to
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