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He replied back without quoting his email. Basically, he is busy with career changes won’t be on forum for a while.
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I did send him email but no response from him so far.
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I will try to reach out.
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Sorry wish i could help but i dont have much historical knowledge. All though I will say this though. I heard sant hari singh ji randhawale talk about khand - sackhand in between stages like baikhunt. Here is that video. Video proves baikhunt like stage pyhiscal plane does exist for sikhs and others:
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I am here veer ji, what’s the question I will try to answer from japji sahib teeka from Giani kartar singh bhidranwale. I will reach out to drawrof as well.
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11 hours ago, Guest PAL_07 said:
5 Khands in Japji Sahib As Explained By PAL 07 on Sikhawareness Website
JO BREHMENDEH SOE PINDEH (Whatever is in the universe is within the body) Sri Guru Granth Sahib
1 First Khand Planet Earth
Tis Vich Dharti Rakh Dharmsaal, Tis Vich Jea Jugt Ke Rang Tin Ke Naam Anekh Anant, Karmi Karmi Hoe Veechar Sacha Aap Sacha Darbar Titheh Sohan Panch Parvan Nadri Karam Paveh Nisaan Kach Pakaie Otheh Payeh Nanak Geya Japeh Jaye Dharam Khand Ka Eho Dharam.
"Earth is a realm of righteousness and to earn and live in righteousness. Here there are many types of living creatures with many names. God is true and true is the court of Dharmraja the angel of justice. In the divine court the Panch Parvan beings will be held in high esteem who through grace have received a special mark as great human beings. How righteous and false a person is will be deliberated there in Dharmrajas Court. Nanak speaks what he has seen in the realm of Dharam Khand."
2. Second Khand Is Grace meaning awakening knowledge.
Gyan Khand Ka Akho Karm......etc. Dasam Duar Savikalap Samadhi Through The Stage of Attaining Grace
"And now we speak of the realm of grace spiritual wisdom. So many winds, waters and fires; so many Krishnas and Shivas. So many Brahmas, fashioning forms of great beauty, adorned and dressed in many colors. So many worlds and So many Indras, so many moons and suns, so many worlds and lands. So many Siddhas and Buddhas, so many Yogic masters. So many goddesses of various kinds.
So many demi-gods and demons, so many silent sages. So many oceans of jewels. So many ways of life, so many languages. So many dynasties of rulers, so many intuitive people, so many selfless servants. O Nanak, His limit has no limit!"3. Khanda Stage - Perpetual Everlasting Knowledge Entrance Into The Hirda
Gyan Khand Meh Gyan Parchand, Titheh Naad Binod Anand
"Fixed Forever In Samadhi State/Turia Pad/Chautha Pad/Nirbhan Pad etc ) Knowledge Becomes Supreme & Extremely powerful (Nirvikalap Samadhi) stage of Hearing of divine music and ineffible bliss."
4. Saram Khand Stage of Constant Spiritual Effort
Saram Khand Ki Bani Roop Titheh Gharat....etc
Saram means spiritual effort i.e, continuing the mental effort. The surti takes on new forms The mind takes on a new unique form. Nothing further can be explained in words. Further mental absorbtion into the Divine takes place."
Titheh Garia Surt Mat Man Budh - (Sahaj Samadhi) Such a human can say anything and it will become true. There voice becomes spiritual and takes the hearing person into bliss. No other devas or spiritual beings can be to this stage. They are undefeatable warriors and become nirbhau. fearless. God fills within all his body and he become sewn one with Ram (God) in Jivan Mukat stage.
To Be Continued..........
Amazing, mind blowing
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Can't seem to see the video, any way to upload on youtube
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Gurfateh ji, good to hear from you, please consider making a id and post there, looking fwd to your enlightening post as always. Jee ayae nuo
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Vahiguru ji, references to spiritual heart-
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Got reconfirmation from respected yogi amandeep singh ji that amrit nadi is different than sukhsama nadi chakra system, way to awaken is to abide in the spiritual heart as much possible.
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Going back to topic- Schizophrenia and Sikhi, IMHO it comes down to - sarab rog ka aukhad naam. Schizophrenia is complex medical/super natural problem-telepathic voices/channeling spirits- requires medication along with elements of Naam. Naam to disconnect the voices from head - one of many meditation technique- seeing yourself as sky of awareness voices beneath (easier said than done) or concentrating on navel chakra so voices are whisper not loud- (easier said than done) does require rigorous practice. I had a long episodes with voices last year where i can hear spirits voices 2 plus months (echkhart tolle describes it channeling if youtube it). Most of spirit voices are causing conflicts within family voices, gov't, politicans, some were good were both punjabi and english. I even heard female voices- australian. In my case, Voices occur to due to premature kundalini chakra awakening, i had limited understanding of it. Now days i do chanting vahiguru mantra as much possible i just abide in the heart- spiritual heart right side of chest, by passing all the chakra system. Chakra system is quite dangerous without master. Gyani thakur singh ji was mentioning some people have gone mental. These voices must be coming from somewhere- its mixture of spiritual pyshosis plus medical.
This illness is life altering and immense suffering here is CNN anderson cooper trying the simulation, its immense suffering. Hope no one goes through it.
Those who opened up, we are on the same boat, so hang in there. This site provides good support. Hopefully, more medic professionals can post their thoughts on this. I don't advise people getting off meds to be honest. I was told straight up by sant jagjit singh ji harkhowale to take my meds when i bought up telepathy.
I wrote more about it here:
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Post by yogi amandeep singh
Many blessings on the appearance day of Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0ILVFEsWqa/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
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Happy Gurpurb of Satguru Nanak Dev Ji Poran NiRANKAR to all Sikh Sangat and whole humanity.
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I've been researching on this topic for few weeks, more about amrit nadi - heart center.
source: https://beezone.com/wide-stacks-many-topics/three_stations_of_the_hear.html
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I be definitely ordering it.
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Let me do further test
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Ironically, I was watching the trailer today looks good. Leonardo DiCaprio, mark ruffalo are involved in first nation awareness in real life. Reference smithers pipeline.
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I recently started Jaap of vahiguru gurmantar as suggested. Thanks so much for all feedback.
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Dalsingh veer, just received feedback on easy on swearing. Lets keep it civil.
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6 hours ago, CuriousSeeker said:I'm speaking about regarding concentration on hirda(right side). Look into the link I posted.
My point is your doing that all self guided, from books mixing and matching bachans according to your intellect. You're putting your feet in many boats (mahatmas methods), in turn following no one's completely. Not a personal attack.
Regarding your other point, about turiya yes and no. Without hosh/full awareness it's not the same thing.
Ps: Robert Adams is a fraud(never met Maharishi) among other things hes claimed Excellent speaker though. I'm familiar with most of public Ramana Maharishi lineage. Godman also confirmed that, along with a few others.
Either way do what you must, intellect/thoery can be a burden as with the pundits from history. Gets in the way of surrender required on both bhagti maarg/self-inquiry.
Robert adams is not fraud, not by his reading his book silence of heart anyways. You are right regarding without full hosh is not same thing. Thanks for the advise. One thing i can confirm similiar teaching of sant jagjit singh ji harkhowale, sri ramana maharishi, sant darshan singh ji dhakki wale- you will feel cool steady sensations on right side of heart, thats how you know heart is awakened, natural abidance comes in time.
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- Gurbani has lot of references on hirdee, rideh. Eg Sukhmani sahib, Anand Sahib
- One line of thought which is quite convincing is our self resides in same as deep sleep-one feeling indifference to three states jagrat, suapan, sukhopat is turiya well maintained abidance in hirde 24/7 in hirda.
- Second line of thought which is also quite convincing self resides in tenth door/crown chakra. Both above are true at the same time. Listen to sant jagjit singh ji tapes question and answers.
- Robert Adams was student of ramana maharishi.
- I found another interesting article which I used experencially- https://beezone.com/wide-stacks-many-topics/three_stations_of_the_hear.html
QuoteThe right side of the heart is the seat of the separate conscious self. In the sixth stage of life, the right side of the heart becomes awakened as the root-origin of attention, and the seat of the Witness-Position of Consciousness. As has been described, at the culmination of the ascending process, the Spirit-Energy “falls”, or comes to rest, in the right side of the Spirit Energy in heart.
It is in the seventh stage of life that the Spirit-Current rises again in the “regeneration” of Amrita Nadi, from the right side of the heart to the matrix above the head. In this process, the body itself is infused with the Divine Spirit-Current in the Circle of the body-mind. Thus, the heart on the right remains always as the “foot” of the “organ” of Divine Self-Realization that is “Amrita Nadi”.
- I made a link between sant isher singh ji rara sahib video above with sant darshan singh ji article below on hirde
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I think I am in better position these days due to meds and heart meditation. Last year I had hellish type experience as listed in op.
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