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  1. The above 2 post by Lucky and Sat veerji help with some contrast. It is really difficult to explain since characteristics change as you climb. Maybe easier to imagine the naad or divine word (mentioned), as a baseline sound. After all, it is the sound that exists everywhere and from which all creation was created. The anhad bani, akath katha, sehaj dhun, toor etc.. all come from this origin. 1) The journey starts when you first begin to hear it faintly. (ring/hum coming from naad) 2) Encounter other sounds as you progress and these are first heard whilst in maya. 3) After goi
  2. I'll attempt answering whilst i'm online at the moment. The way I understand it and as per some of Tohana sahib's recodrings; the bandgi or bhagti starts when you start listening and merging (samao) into naam shabad. This is also called doing naam seva and is a process of gyaan and dhyiaan. Gurmantar or jap of any mantar of form, written word or 'akaar' as in waheguru, ram ram, hari.. should lead you to the state of hearing the naam that has no written or describable akaar. You could call it the formless stage of hearing the dhun of naam that will lead to amrit and jyot illumination.
  3. Nice one veerji. I'd personally add that it's probably only advisable to sit there once your dhyian is geared more in towards the ek shabad/naad. I"m only suggesting since some readers may get confused by try to focus there too early. The tohana sahib recordings warn about this but you know some readers just grab a few pointers and techniques that may be mentioned and then start attempting prematurely. Hope you agree?
  4. lol. I was an infant in 76. Watched the movie in late 80's and became a huge fan. Don't want to go off topic here but a movie is a movie. it can't be classed as gurmat or manmat. The mat is what comes from within the individual as far as I understand. The only focus you want for "next station" is to be as thoughtless and still as possible, ready to surrender your complete self. (That's my personal suggestion). The sound you hear is positive, and by aiming to surrender in a thoughtless state. is the only way I know to help build the love. Trying to conquer different shabads never helped me
  5. Thats real good to know. Will try and call him in few days for a couple of pointers. Thanks
  6. Sat sri akaal to you all. I have not been on here for months and was very busy trapped in noose of maya. Intending to read topics on here to give me some inspiration since my bhagti and nitnem have taken a nose dive. @Sukh_preet you dont need to be confused. Ive listened to the video and it's very good. I can imagine some people getting confused because they are probaly trying to jump ahead. Jumping ahead and looking to expect things is dangerous and not meditation. Read some of the posts in october 2018 where similar advice was given. What you should do is gurmantar jap. Do
  7. Hey Jageera, keeping well? Anger hey? Yeh, it's all normal and many meditators experience it. I suffered the same but was able to self-analyze once it subsided. Simran is a process that starts with cleaning dirt and gandh layers ingrained on our mind. I think people have different types reactions depending on the amount of dirt. Think of it as cleansing toxins or negative energies accumulated on mind. Most of the time we don't know what they are and we subconsciously suppress them. Our inner subtle body can deal up to certain capacity depending on inner strength or praan ener
  8. A real nice share veerji. If anyone wants more clarity on some of the older posts referred to above on bhaikri, madhma, pasanti, para and rom rom jap, then this video is helpful. Gyani Thakur ji gives a good summary and forum members on those older posts have also given good details of their experiences. I encountered the same sort of scenario as it went back to the navel with a little more force. It's almost as if it goes from throat to navel - to body roms. Then, back again to navel. The navel is like the epicenter and I agree with lucky veer that one can initiate it from there when eve
  9. Very good advice, This method slows it down but it helps keep the concentration on breath and shabad jap stronger, since you recite one word with each breath with more thiaan. I was advised many years ago to keep it consistent and uniform. As long as there are same amount of breaths and pauses in the same spaces. Example.. ik oankaar=inhale. satnaam=exhale, karta purkh=inhale nirbah nirvair= exhale and so on. Some days I'd switch to a little faster with ik onkaar satnaam=inhale, karta purkh nirbhai nirvair= exhale, akaal moorth ajooni saibhang= inhale , gurprasad jap=exha
  10. Totally awesome veer ji. I wish I'd stumbled across this a few years ago. Truly valuable.
  11. Waheguru ji ka khalsa, Waheguru ji ki fateh 1. First- I recommend reading and working with instructions from the this post and reading from about pages 13 to 22. Some praiseworthy contributions from members like Sat1176 and Lucky veer ji's 2. Second- I have heard similar questions to that you queried on many occasions. You know, about shivers and pressure on forehead. I heard these since someone in family were high kamayee wala gurmukh. (I can't say who they were because sangat may have heard of them). Anyhow, I would say these kind of incidences which students experience
  12. Wahguru ji ki fateh I couldn't help but feel your situation because I know what it's like. I can only tell you what I know from the way I've handled things. Although its a stage of my life that I'm extremely ashamed of, I'm aware of the darkness and difficulties. I remember how I'd regret most mornings and promise to not do it again. Sadly, just past afternoon, when i'd be more or less fully sober, I'd fall into a sudden slump of depression. Worried about how I would make it through to the night, I'd be craving and planning my evening liquor session. The anxiety, frustration, and ju
  13. Wohhh, you're feeling it for sure. The order of changes sounds decent but you should have gotten absorbed in the first shabad sound when it were getting loud.. The crashing airplane like and screeching shouldn't have distracted you away from the loud shabad. Try and aim to drown in the shabad and leave all else behind. Say, you are watching TV and absorbed into something so deeply. Your phone is nearby and it starts ringing. The power of absorption between you and the TV is so high that you may hear the phone ringing in background, but it's not enough to divert your attention from t
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