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  1. 9 hours ago, Lucky said:

    Did he say at what stage one should be ready for this?

    Its been an year now since m in touch with him. My Amrit was off n on then. Its pretty stable by his jugti now. He made me identify the shabad. Now he suggested this n told me the technique but i couldn't get it well thus wanted inputs from Gurmukh's here. I have heard this in kathas too but this is something am kinda stuck at. 

     

  2. We read about Dasam duar in Nitnem twice everyday. 
     
    so dru kyhw so Gru kyhw ijqu bih srb smwly ]
    so dhar kehaa so ghar kehaa jit beh sarab samaale ||
    Where is that Gate, and where is that Dwelling, in which You sit and take care of all?
     
     
    vwjy nwd Anyk AsMKw kyqy vwvxhwry ]
    vaaje naadh anek asa(n)khaa kete vaavanahaare ||
    The Sound-current of the Naad vibrates there, and countless musicians play on all sorts of instruments there.
     
     
    kyqy rwg prI isau khIAin kyqy gwvxhwry ]
    kete raag paree siau kaheean kete gaavanahaare ||
    So many Ragas, so many musicians singing there.
     
     
    gwvih quhno pauxu pwxI bYsMqru gwvY rwjw Drmu duAwry ]
    gaaveh tuhano paun paanee baisa(n)tar gaavai raajaa dharam dhuaare ||
    The praanic wind, water and fire sing; the Righteous Judge of Dharma sings at Your Door.
     
     
    gwvih icqu gupqu iliK jwxih iliK iliK Drmu vIcwry ]
    gaaveh chit gupat likh jaaneh likh likh dharam veechaare ||
    Chitr and Gupt, the angels of the conscious and the subconscious who record actions, and the Righteous Judge of Dharma who judges this record sing.
     
     
    gwvih eIsru brmw dyvI sohin sdw svwry ]
    gaaveh ieesar baramaa dhevee sohan sadhaa savaare ||
    Shiva, Brahma and the Goddess of Beauty, ever adorned, sing.
     
     
    gwvih ieMd iedwsix bYTy dyviqAw dir nwly ]
    gaaveh i(n)dh idhaasan baiThe dhevatiaa dhar naale ||
    Indra, seated upon His Throne, sings with the deities at Your Door.
     
     
    gwvih isD smwDI AMdir gwvin swD ivcwry ]
    gaaveh sidh samaadhee a(n)dhar gaavan saadh vichaare ||
    The Siddhas in Samaadhi sing; the Saadhus sing in contemplation.
     
     
    gwvin jqI sqI sMqoKI gwvih vIr krwry ]
    gaavan jatee satee sa(n)tokhee gaaveh veer karaare ||
    The celibates, the fanatics, the peacefully accepting and the fearless warriors sing.
     
     
    gwvin pMifq pVin rKIsr jugu jugu vydw nwly ]
    gaavan pa(n)ddit paRan rakheesar jug jug vedhaa naale ||
    The Pandits, the religious scholars who recite the Vedas, with the supreme sages of all the ages, sing.
     
     
    gwvih mohxIAw mnu mohin surgw mC pieAwly ]
    gaaveh mohaneeaa man mohan suragaa machh piaale ||
    The Mohinis, the enchanting heavenly beauties who entice hearts in this world, in paradise, and in the underworld of the subconscious sing.
     
     
    gwvin rqn aupwey qyry ATsiT qIrQ nwly ]
    gaavan ratan upaae tere aThasaTh teerath naale ||
    The celestial jewels created by You, and the sixty-eight holy places of pilgrimage sing.
     
     
    gwvih joD mhwbl sUrw gwvih KwxI cwry ]
    gaaveh jodh mahaabal sooraa gaaveh khaanee chaare ||
    The brave and mighty warriors sing; the spiritual heroes and the four sources of creation sing.
     
     
    gwvih KMf mMfl vrBMfw kir kir rKy Dwry ]
    gaaveh kha(n)dd ma(n)ddal varabha(n)ddaa kar kar rakhe dhaare ||
    The planets, solar systems and galaxies, created and arranged by Your Hand, sing.
     
     
    syeI quDuno gwvih jo quDu Bwvin rqy qyry Bgq rswly ]
    seiee tudhuno gaaveh jo tudh bhaavan rate tere bhagat rasaale ||
    They alone sing, who are pleasing to Your Will. Your devotees are imbued with the Nectar of Your Essence.
     
     
    hoir kyqy gwvin sy mY iciq n Awvin nwnku ikAw vIcwry ]
    hor kete gaavan se mai chit na aavan naanak kiaa veechaare ||
    So many others sing, they do not come to mind. O Nanak, how can I consider them all?
     
     
    soeI soeI sdw scu swihbu swcw swcI nweI ]
    soiee soiee sadhaa sach saahib saachaa saachee naiee ||
    That True Lord is True, Forever True, and True is His Name.
     
     
    hY BI hosI jwie n jwsI rcnw ijin rcweI ]
    hai bhee hosee jai na jaasee rachanaa jin rachaiee ||
    He is, and shall always be. He shall not depart, even when this Universe which He has created departs.
     
     
    rMgI rMgI BwqI kir kir ijnsI mwieAw ijin aupweI ]
    ra(n)gee ra(n)gee bhaatee kar kar jinasee maiaa jin upaiee ||
    He created the world, with its various colors, species of beings, and the variety of Maya.
     
     
    kir kir vyKY kIqw Awpxw ijv iqs dI vifAweI ]
    kar kar vekhai keetaa aapanaa jiv tis dhee vaddiaaiee ||
    Having created the creation, He watches over it Himself, by His Greatness.
     
     
    jo iqsu BwvY soeI krsI hukmu n krxw jweI ]
    jo tis bhaavai soiee karasee hukam na karanaa jaiee ||
    He does whatever He pleases. No order can be issued to Him.
     
     
    so pwiqswhu swhw pwiqswihbu nwnk rhxu rjweI ]27]
    so paatisaahu saahaa paatisaahib naanak rahan rajaiee ||27||
    He is the King, the King of kings, the Supreme Lord and Master of kings. Nanak remains subject to His Will. ||27||
  3. 1 hour ago, paapiman said:

     

    The spiritual waves and divine vibrations talked about in the above passage will probably come into play when a person has attained a Mantar Sidhi.

    Mantar Sidhi is not an easy process. According to an ancient text, you will have to multiply the total number of letters in a Mantar by 100,000 to attain its Sidhi.

    The below will give you an idea on how difficult it can be to attain a Mantar Sidhi.

    So for example, if you are planning to do Sidhi of a Gurbani verse, which has 15 letters in it, you will have to repeat that verse (with love, concentration, devotion, following other rules, etc) 1.5 million times before you attain it's Sidhi. 

     

    Bhul chuk maaf

    @paapiman Are you trying to say that Guru himself didn't poseess siddhi thus required those weeds? Are you in your senses bro? Or high with bhung..  Lol

     

    1 hour ago, dalsingh101 said:

    Plus why would he defame his own grandfather (Mehtab Singh)?  

    Perhaps because she's right? These granths were altered after his death. Else why would he defame his own grandfather ? Which is much of a possibility done by muslims of those times or by gorays. Most of the goray wanted sikhs to be their soldiers as they were brave and we all know about their cunningness to frame sikhs under the name of the Gurus. 

    They changed all this to frame sikhs that soldiers in Gurus times used opium n bhung to make sure that sikhs remain out of their minds and only use their bodies instead.

    Or may be he was like our bro 

    @paapimandefaming his own spiritual father yeah? 

  4. On 12/30/2020 at 1:59 PM, Guest Guest Guest said:

     

    Brother if you don't know answer of the question better is don't say anything.... Gurbani buddhi da vishey( subject) nahi hai.???..Gurbani tu Giyaan kon lenda hai? when you read SGGS, don't you try to understand it?? Can you understand without buddhi???

     

    yaar tusi te bade gusse plus jaldi vich lagde ho?  I told you I didn't understand it then .. It's a matter of practice. Of experience. It's Not the matter of explainations... Ok tell me something I was hungry I ate something filling I am satisfied now, if a guest comes to me and ask me how did your tummy get satisfied by what you ate. I don't know what to tell him. All I can tell him is I was hungry. I got food. It  satisfied me. But how? I have no clue.. That's how its meant to be. Earth is round. It revolves around the Sun but why nd how? I don't know.. 

    As you progress in Bhakti you cross few hurdles and move further in Stages- avasthas. You are right. I don't have answers. I am no gyaani but this forum I am aware, has those brilliant diamonds. Be humble. Keep walking.. You will feel those avasthaas yourself.. If you r keen in getting answers you WILL get them. Bani certifies that. Turde ko turda mile urde ko urda

  5. On 11/17/2020 at 2:55 PM, Guest NoFap said:

    Another interesting link i came across from Yogananda Paramahansa book - 

    http://yogananda.com.au/py_talks/astral_world01.html#top

    Are their astral worlds or they are traps as same as earth. 

    Seems like after earth you must go on further planes. 

     

    And in those plane we have some other ways to get enlightened <img src=">.

     

    These stories are interesting. 

     

    Would like to hear thoughts from you people on this post and even on the post life is dream.

    I want progress in my journey further as who knows what will be you in your next birth or reincarnation so i want to devote my life to meditation.

    They are all traps bro. There are thousands of worlds out there. Paataala paatal lakh agaasa aagaas orak orak bhaal thake.. Keep on searching and getting tired. The only parmeshwar is sarab vyaapak-  omnipresent. Why waste time in searching Astral worlds when we can feel him as close as our eyes

  6. 3 minutes ago, seattlesingh said:

    Yes if someone could clarify the situation about "kithe dhyan launa" I think Tohana ji and Gurmat Meditation sangat have different viewpoints. 

    No brother, they both are the students of PMKC Moga. We should put our dhyaan as per Dharamjeet Singh ji on a point outside our forhead. He points at it about 6 inches bahar than forhead Or nose end and Simranjeet Singh tohana calls the same as khali khala. Point is same only the manner of saying is different. 

    That's what I have understood. I stand to be corrected. 

  7. 10 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

    I asked this question & what you told me is exactly what Simranjeet Singh Tohana is saying. I live in Surrey BC. 

    Tohana says mastak vich ve diyaan de point ne……on other hand  I hear him saying mastak vich diyaan nahi launa...body te lodd nahi pauna......( I know there are 6 chakras) But lets get to my question:

    Dreams come in Subconsciousness so I believe surti goes from conscious to Subconscious.....if it goes out can you please tell me how it goes out? From nose, from eyes, from where? I would love to meet someone in Surrey too who knows this answer....

    there r 3 stages: waking, dreaming, deep sleep  4th one is Turiya

    How can we say surti goes out? If goes out? then where OR is it all happening inside the body...

    Need practical answers please ( I have listened many Khatas too)

     

    When I was small and ask questions like these my mom used to say "beta Gurbani buddhi da vishey( subject) nahi hai" I didn't understand then but now I do. 

    Meri matt thori Ram

  8. On 7/28/2020 at 11:07 AM, Lucky said:

    Keep it simple, have faith and be prepared to give your matt at all times. Jumping around with a monkey mind, going from x,y, z will only weaken your hold over the mann.

     

    On 7/28/2020 at 9:51 PM, Sat1176 said:

    probably know enough already to walk quite far down this journey. Now work on the practical building not the theoretical understanding unless you need your battery charging. I should also practice what I preach HaHa. 

    You shouldn't really have too many questions for Gurmukhs unless your having simran problems or experiences that you want to share or discuss with them. Honestly they get fed up with people calling them all the time. Don't become one of those. Keep it once every few weeks or months. Then they love to hear from you, and see how your getting on. Just shows them you not one of those who came and then disappeared never to reach out to them again.

    Don't become one of those who calls after every sneeze or tyre puncture to ask why it happened to you? Please do ardas for me etc etc..  When they do a natural bachan of their own choosing for you, then that is the most powerful blessing you will ever need.

    I was recently telling my teacher that I'm struggling to do simran for more than 15 mins before I drift into Sunn and I am going in and out in one sitting. I was concerned that I should be forcing myself to stay awake because I kept on hearing mix signals from everyone what I should do, even once from him. He said absolutely not. Don't force yourself because you wont be able to. Let sunn/sehaj come. Get to the stage when you are able to say Waheguru once and you have gone into Sunn. Leave the rest to Waheguru to work His magic. If you can fall into sunn / sehaj listening to sehaj dhun/anhad sounds then even better, but if not keep working on the gurmantar and let the mind drift into sunn when it wants. 🙏 This has been bothering me for months and years now I think and I keep going round in circles

    So what do you both suggest, shall I keep on walking my path without any particular teacher among these. Keep on picking tits and tats from here and there with SGGS as my everything as sukhpreet says. 

  9. Exactly is what is happening with me too. Thanks sat ji for this, you have given it words. I am drowning and I know I am but don't know how to save myself.

    Looking for sangat we created a group of a few like minded Gurmukhs, but then each has a different teacher one among you mentioned and a few more. Who's that ONE teacher to follow is my quest. 
    I got to Amrit ras - sehaj subhaay and then thought it was a disease for lack of knowledge. Started following other Mat's philosphers. Something similar happened to mooorakh bhn,     she got close to dhund before seeing Parmatma and thought it's her eye sight. 
    Now One Teacher fights 5 chanting loudest with Gurmantra . Other says pyaar naal 'pani khicho'. Third calls Wa he Guru in 3 syllables and each claims they have seen waheguru with their jugti. I am stuck of course looking for the one right for me. Only Gurmail singh ji mentioned about dhund but he also mentioned about colors which Dharamjeet singh ji said is nowhere in SGGS as one other lady in the group follows him and discussed it with him. He said this shouldn't be followed.  Simranjeet singh ji is too busy and has too many followers. 

    That's why this isn't an easy path.. 

  10. 10 hours ago, Ragmaala said:

    Thats quite a bold statement, I would ask for guidance from him but i would be very careful in making him your murshad. Just be careful. See how far he can take you. Just hope he doesnt bind you in some way. Keep us updated 

     

    11 hours ago, Ragmaala said:

    https://www.facebook.com/charanjit.singh.7777

    Still nascent, Are you talking about him ? Is he the author of book? 

    Not sure bro. Never seen him. 

  11. 23 hours ago, Ragmaala said:

    So basically he is saying to focus on the third eye and do jaap of oankar ? Am I correct? Versus japa of Gurmantra. Interesting technique nevertheless. Did you try it ?

    No no brother, it's not that he said Onkaar jap, he said Onkaar kar sakde jo, waheguru kar sakde jo, Hari, Allah any.. 

    He himself does Waheguru simran and so do I. 

    10 hours ago, Lucky said:

    I would normally suggest doing the cleansing technique of Saas graas at  normal relaxed pace with some dhyian and inward pumps at the navel.

    Thank you ji. I do saas gras but i will do inward pumps as well, that may help my bulging tummy too : - ) 

    On 7/25/2020 at 1:34 AM, Sukh_preet said:

    Why do you say so veerji? What did you

    Now that's a story brother. I heard about this Veerji from a learned Gurmukh, he also sent these recordings. I downloaded this app, got his number from there and called him. Don't ask me why because I am still asking this myself. Now this person had a strong persona. A very strong vibration,  he said he could  take me across the bhavjal of vichaars

    Yes you read it right. He says he can. 

    I got in dubidha - one head said wow! I have been asking for this all my life, koi aave santo! types and the logical one says - Hows it possible? 

    I was stuck. I contacted a few Gurmukhs I know including mooorakh bhn she's a member of a gurbani group I follow. Sent them all the recordings and pics. But haven't received any substantial answer yet

    What shall I do? Is this a test or an opportunity? I hv started following Osho few years ago, don't want to repeat my mistake. This veerji seems full of practical gyaan, talks sense. Chants Waheguru. No money or any thing asked rather he's in merchant Navy, so he earns a hefty salary-don't see any minus anywhere

    Please guide every one. Sangat is the Guru

     

  12. On 7/5/2020 at 10:24 AM, hsingh6 said:

    The download is not working..please repost..

     

    This Gurmukh has some sort of power - siddhi i may say @hsingh6 , I don't recommend him on the forum because I am not sure if it's permitted in Sikhi but to be honest I felt the power in his pran. 

    You decide yourself. I am refering NOT recommending 

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.atamgian

    This is his app on  playstore. Is also available on Apple Store. 

    Gurfateh ji

     

  13. Sat Sri Akal all, 

    I happen to meet a gurmukh today, we were casually discussing abhyaas and he mentioned " Twade praana vich bot kampan hai. " He told me to do kapaalbhaati - exhale 20-30 times powerfully

    Can someone please elaborate more on this and yoga and meditation in sikhi part. 

    Please @Lucky @Sat1176

    @Mooorakh @DeNiro @tva prasad @HisServant and other abhiyaasis n guests. Your inputs are welcome

  14. And as for kirtan. You are # learned enough to refer to Bani as to what actually kirtan is. Our Gurus have given such signifance to raags and dhunis. Those who hear anhad naads would know the importance of kirtan like moorakh bhenji but if you are disgracing a Gurmukh taunting about tolerance, I personally find you intolerant rather. 

    Not just anything or anyone can do kirtan👇


     
    ਗਉੜੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ 
    Ga▫oṛī mėhlā 5.
    Gauree, Fifth Mehl:
     
    ਥਾਤੀ ਪਾਈ ਹਰਿ ਕੋ ਨਾਮ 
    Thāṯī pā▫ī har ko nām.
    Those who obtain the wealth of the Lord's Name
     
    ਬਿਚਰੁ ਸੰਸਾਰ ਪੂਰਨ ਸਭਿ ਕਾਮ ॥੧॥
    Bicẖar sansār pūran sabẖ kām. ||1||
    move freely in the world; all their affairs are resolved. ||1||
     
    ਵਡਭਾਗੀ ਹਰਿ ਕੀਰਤਨੁ ਗਾਈਐ 
    vadbẖāgī har kīrṯan gā▫ī▫ai.
    By great good fortune, the Kirtan of the Lord's Praises are sung.
     
    ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਤੂੰ ਦੇਹਿ ਤ ਪਾਈਐ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ 
    Pārbarahm ṯūʼn ḏėh ṯa pā▫ī▫ai. ||1|| rahā▫o.
    O Supreme Lord God, as You give, so do I receive. ||1||Pause||

    Its NOT JUST ANOTHER DEVOTIONAL SONG, LIKE YOU GUYS ARE POSTING HERE
     
    ਗਉੜੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ 
    Ga▫oṛī mėhlā 5.
    Gauree, Fifth Mehl:
     
    ਸੋ ਕਿਛੁ ਕਰਿ ਜਿਤੁ ਮੈਲੁ ਨ ਲਾਗੈ 
    So kicẖẖ kar jiṯ mail na lāgai.
    Do only that, by which no filth or pollution shall stick to you.
     

    ਹਰਿ ਕੀਰਤਨ ਮਹਿ ਏਹੁ ਮਨੁ ਜਾਗੈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ 
    Har kīrṯan mėh ehu man jāgai. ||1|| rahā▫o.
    Let your mind remain awake

    IT IS A POWER TO REMOVE THE FILTH FROM Janms


    Anyway you can listen to whatever you wish but if you are recommending something to others, make sure it's worth. One good option is better than just any 5 which we would have anyway searched from net. 

    Waheguru ji ka khalsa
    Waheguru ji ki Fateh

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