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  1. Many topics which are discussed on here get irreleantly linked to a whole group and hatred is spewed against them. There are many Note badal appointed sgpc president jagir kaur behind dhumma at so called panthic smagam Then we should just go to pandit ji and ask him for straight path to rabb. I wonder how us sikhs, the religion most against nakli Sadhs sants and dere baba have fallen to them ourselves.... We have perfect environment, highest population percentage of low castes in punjab, a country of oppressed people india, who are unknowingly waiting to be freed from clutches of brahminvaad but we are to busy going to dera instead of putting people on path of gurmat and doing parchar. At the time of writing the past comment I was shocked and surprised after finding a pdf file being shared on this forum which showed rituals of reading gurbani to get certain reward, including repeating lakh times then throwing water around and other fruitless rituals. The sad thing was that most regular posters on the forum were agreeing with it and supporting it even though the first line showed that it was written from ideas gathered from radha swoamis, udasi's, nirmale, nakli nirankaris namdhari kooke (who have their own guru dom) and other fake sikh virodhi sects. Also shocked that sikhs were scared of ghosts and ghost videos.... Even from wam pharam believing hindu I would not expect... There had been many publications like gp6 which have been released to confuse sikh nation and create further divide, having read some of other ones and realising it waste of time and developing of negative thoughts while reading it, it was assumed it would be better to ask people who have already read it to find out whether it contained anything questionable, false or anti sikh. I did not want to bring in kala afghanas writing into it, but due to the long time period in between release of Book it was hard to find other critique or analyse of it. 'Te Sikh V niglea gaya' is a good book. Available online, success da rah youtube channel also is doing audio book on it ATM. Success da rah channel gives impartial and equal view on topics like dasam granth, "it is upto you if u want to read or not", many great Sikh scholars have Debates for 100s year and not been able to resolve issue.
  2. What is "Paras Kala", i hope its not more wahm param superstition.
  3. He makes up shit on the spot and calls it science For example his mercury crap: https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aoObAjX_460sv.mp4 If anyone has done grade 7 -9 science/ physics they know that he is spewing out straight bullcrap. He tricks his intelligent followers by "solidifying" mercury at room temperature, again if anyone has gone to school they would know that mercury has a melting temperature of -38 degrees. He just mixes something else to cause reaction with mercury which makes solidified compound not solidified mercury. He cons people with his pseudo science. for example he says this: There’s substantial scientific evidence today about how the molecular structure of the water can be rearranged without changing the chemical structure, even with a simple thought or a touch. i wonder where he got his "scientific evidence" from. Have you done high school chemistry? well explain the difference between chemical and molecular structure.. and this "water has memory" ???????? or this So because of this, lot of research has gone into water. It went mostly from this line, but slowly they went deeper and deeper into this and they find – which you must be… being a chemist you must be very much aware of this – without changing the chemical composition of the water, you can rearrange the molecular arrangement in such a way that the water will behave completely in a different way than the way it does to such an extent, it's sensitive to this extent, that if I take a glass of water in my hand and just look at it in a certain way and give it to you, well-being will come to you. If I look at it another way and give it to you, you will fall sick tonight. This is no more superstition, this is science. so i can go look at the cities water supply and make everyone sick? This is not superstition it is science!!! and its no surprise that sadhguru skipped school https://www.quora.com/Doctors-only-Sadhguru-Jaggi-Vasudev-says-one-must-not-sleep-with-the-head-pointing-north-see-the-link-Is-his-scientific-explanation-for-this-true/answer/Asher-Nitin Also Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh is a great actor, why don't you love him as well. Ram Rahim has made more movies than sadhguru.
  4. Placing water should have no effect. it is not a sin to have water there to drink or something but if you are doing it for some magical powers or manmat bonuses then it is false ritual/ superstition. Anti panthic forces keep making up stuff about how it stores 'magical' energy, if that were true just leave a tank full of water next to speaker which is reading sri guru granth sahib and use that water for everything.... Many people are very gullible and fall for this no wonder why dera babas are so popular in punjab. Rapist murderer cult leader ram rahim's dera sacha sauda has more dera's in punjab then there are villages in punjab. Hopefully we don't have any gurmeet ram rahim or dera sacha sauda followers/ apologists here because you would be supporting beadbi of sggs.
  5. sadhguru is nakli baba, murderer, thief, hindutavi poster boy, lying scumbag. You might as well go to pandit ji and ask him for advice.
  6. Havan is a hindu ritual and is sikhs should not perform it. It has no benefits or meaning to sikhs and performing it is anti panthic.
  7. If i knew what pages they were i woudn't have asked. Lots of people seemed to have read it on this thread so it would be easier to ask someone then to waste time reading just to find out it is anti-gurmat / contains anti sikh things. Il look through his analysis and see. Im not supporting his views im just enquiring since this publication had raised lots of controversy.
  8. Many people on this forum are very misguided and maybe not mentally100% ok(stop spewing hate and believing conspiracy theory pls).... The same wam parm that guru ji told us to leave are being practised with full josh.... Before wtching a video you should put some kavach on? Next thing i know you will be saying do puja of buth before watching video to stop ghost from coming. What a load of bullsh1t. And then there is people running around with pdfs which say that reciting X pauri while doing some sort of ritual X amount of times gives you random stuff. Did u not read the opening sentence of the book? So called sant sheetal is getting his advice from radha swoamis, namdharis, nirmale udasis etc. You should just go to a mandir and ask pandit ji there is no difference. You should also pay pandit ji to do ardas for you cause apparently it lets you work out if a sant is legit depending on their ardas.... Wonder why traitors like dt dhumma get full support from 1diot followrs when he asks everyone to do ardas for parkash singh badal election win. Next thing we know half of nakli nihangs and nakli takaalis will be doing ardas for election victory for modi or sumedh saini acquittal in cases and the sikh slaughtering lot. Pls use brain or just quit gurudwara and go to pandit ji, you are waiting to get looted and pandit ji is waiting for people to loot. Win win situation. Next thing ill know im banned for doing "nindiya of sants"... If anyome wants the bullsh1t filled pdf about ridhi sidhi crap il attach, saw a few active people spreading screenshots of it. Also forum admin when ur typing comment in mobile navigation bar is right on top of onscren keyboard so it is easy to accidentally click it and lose whole comment. Actually nvm there is probably a ridhi sidhi for not clicking wrong button. satgur-shabad-sidhi-bhandar-sant-sheetal-singh-ji_compress.pdf
  9. Found this disturbing thing about so called gurbilas patshahi 6, it is by kala Afghana but it would be appreciated if anyone could evaluate his claims who have read gurbilas patshahi 6. Had read about it a bit before but it came up again as joginder Vedanti died just recently. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=332039500228623&id=331693810263192&locale2=es_LA&ref=page_internal Also analysis of gurbilas patshahi 6 by kala afghana(punjabi, i have not read it yet): To prove his point S. KalaAfghana has extensively quoted from Jathedar Vedanti Jee’s book. Given below is a small sample of the episodes as blasphemous examples from this book, 1)…Pregnancy of Mata Ganga Jee: In Jathedar Vedanti Jee’s book, Mata Ganga Jee, (mother of Guru Hargobind Sahib Jee) is shown to have gotten pregnant by some super-unnatural force called the "Pawan Devta (Air god)." This subtly implies that Sahibzada Hargobind was not the son of our Fifth Guru, Guru Arjan Sahib Jee. (Ref: Kundlian 145, Chapter 1) 2)…Poisoning of Sahibzada Hargobind: According to Vedanti Jee’s book, a Brahmin (at the behest of Prithi Chand), tries to feed Poison-laden Yogurt to Sahibzada Hargobind, that Sahibzada refuses to eat and raises an alarm. Hearing the commotion Guru Arjun Patshah calls everyone to his presence and then tries to feed that Yogurt to his dog. The dog refuses to oblige the Guru saying that he (the speaking dog?) does not want to get separated from the Guru and go to some yonder place. The Guru consoles the dog saying that he (the dog) should not worry, because the Guru will be going to the same place too. Implying that the Guru of the Sikhs was headed to the same place where the dogs go. 3)…Abduction of Bibi Kaulan: In this episode according to Vedanti Jee, Prince Shah Jahan snatches away a Russian-Horse from the Sikh Sangat. This particular horse was meant for Guru Hargobind Sahib. The horse, because of this disheartening incident stops eating and becomes a sort of useless. The Prince finding no use for the sick horse, hands the horse over to Kazi Rustam Khan. From whom in turn, the Guru deals to buy the horse for Rs.20,000. While dealing about the horse the Guru happens to get a glimpse of the Kazi’s very beautiful, 16-year-old daughter, Bibi Kaulan. To whom, according to the writers (Jathedar Vedanti Jee), the Guru says "seeing your beauty, the Sangat’s mind goes astray while singing God’s praises. Therefore, you should keep your door closed." ……..Next, according to this blasphemous episode, Kazi comes to the Guru to get his money, but is asked to wait a few days. Which, the Kazi does. ….After the agreed wait, the Kazi shows up at the Guru’s house again, but is requested to wait a few more days. Upon this, the Kazi gets mad and warns the Guru in the derogatory language that "if the money is not given to him politely, then he, the Kazi knows how to extract it as a Jawaa-ee (son-in-law)". ….. the Guru responded to this derogatory language saying, "Wait a few days and see who becomes a Jawaa-ee." (Ref: Chapter 8, Chaupai 990) ……Next, to prove his point the Guru abducts Bibi Kaulan etc. etc. 4)…Tamasha of Guru Hargobind Jee’s Progeny: In Vedanti Jee’s "Gur Bilas Patshahi 6" firstly, Guru Hargobind Sahib is portrayed as being born as a Chatarbhuj (a Four armed reincarnation of a Hindu god, Vishnu). Then, his wives are shown getting pregnant with the anti-nature, and anti-Sikh Philosophy principles of sucking of some Papers bestowed with some Brahamnical Mantras resulting into the following Tamasha. a)…From the first pregnancy, Guru Nanak Sahib Jee is shown being reincarnated as the first child of Guru Hargobind Sahib. The child being Guru Nanak Sahib, is portrayed getting born, complete with a "white beard, a Seli, and a Topee on his head." Then is played a cruel joke on this blasphemous proposition saying that the females in the room pulled their veils to the white bearded baby. This is the child who is said to have been named Baba Gurdita. b)…Next, with the same nonsensical process the writer shows Bibi Veero Jee getting born as a re-incarnation of the Hindu goddess, Chandika. c)…Next, once again, on the same lines Mata Marwahi Jee is shown getting pregnant with the sucking of a similar piece of paper, resulting into the birth of Suraj Devta (Sun). The child is named Suraj Mal. Please note, the similarity between this episode and the birth of Suraj Devta (in the Hindu epic of Mahabharat) as Karan from the womb of Kunti. d)….Next, on the same lines Guru Nanak Sahib, is made to get born once again complete with "white beard, a Seli, and a Topee on the head." And, once again the cruel joke of the females in the room pulling their veils to the white bearded baby is repeated. This child of Guru Hargobind Sahib is named Baba Anhee Rai. e)…Finally is the birth of Sahibzada Teg Bahadur Jee. 5)…Guru Hargobind Jee’s non-completion of Sukhmani Sahib: After the birth of the fifth child Bibi Kaulan is shown by the authors to realize that she does not have any child. Thinking that the Guru has ignored her, because she is a Turkani (Muslim), she gets depressed and stops maintaining her make-ups, and wearing of expensive clothes. According to the authors "Birhaan Tapat Kaulan Bhay-ee, Rahi Na Deh Sambhar (Kaulan, burnt with the agony of separation, stopped maintaining even her body.)" ……With the telepathic projection of Bibi Kaulan’s deep feelings of depression, Guru Hargobind Sahib Jee is shown to feel uncomfortable while doing Sukhmani Sahib at Sri Akal Takhat Sahib. The level of uncomfort is shown to get so high that the Guru leaves the Takhat for Bibi Kaulan’s residence, without completing the Sukhmani Sahib. Etc. etc. and the list of such admin cut and bull stories goes on and on and on. And thus, this is the “admin cut and Bull” of “Bipran Kee Reet” that Bhai Vedanti Jee along with all the above listed “who is who” of the Sikh leadership wanted the Sikhs to embrace; and S. Kala Afghana single-handedly exposed and challenged them all. Now knowing the criminal mental buildup of the present day Sikh leadership, nobody could or should expect such a huge challenge to go unanswered; as a result S. Kala Afghana to escape punishment for such an infringement is dangerous for the establishment and that is what has resulted in his ex-communication. Thus was executed a “Sach Noo Fansee” by the so-called high-priests (the Mullas of the Sikhs) in the name of Akal Takhat, disgracing the sacred Sikh institution and demolishing it to the ground while the Sikh leadership watched in silence letting the Akal Takhat fall. gurbilas6-analysis_compress.pdf
  10. Majority of sikhs follow sikh reyat maryada. We can all agree that - A sikh can be gursikh and one with waheguru while following sri guru granth sahib and sikh reyat maryada. Keeping away from controversial topics like dasam granth (which divide the panth as it is impossible to reach conclusion due to external influence [brahminvaadi and santani influence, rss etc. ] and vested interests of groups and constant interference by indian govt in sikh religeous affairs - can only be solved by establishing khalsa raj and khalistan) it is hard to also draw conclusion on other things which have also become controversy like sarbloh. You can use it if you want or follow certain rehat but if you dont do it that does not mean you can not be gursikh or become one with waheguru. I agree there is more than one sikh reyat maryada. This is what happens when we delve into controversy(do not consider this apart of reply - just showing why controversy cant be solved anytime soon) best not to reply to the restof comment as it will just cause mud slinging and contorversy without achieving anything, a hundred times more knowledgable and panthic people have had discussion and yet it is not solved so it will just result in time waste _ best is all these issues are put on backburner and sikh panth make goal azadi which will make these issues way easier to solve - very hard since key figures and sikh leaders are in hands of hindustani (brahminvaadi) govt: Alarm bells are rung on both sides of controversy, dd taksal AKJ sant samaj( literally named after a hindu org with similar name), dd taksal dhumma(lackey of badal #1 traitor and sikh virodi gadar) and baba thakur(getting saroops from top RSS and its religious wing VHP people - who actively work to sivide and create controversy in sikh panth) having regular meetings with RSS and other anti panthic orgs. Since nihungs have been without a role / job for almost 200 years they have fallen into dissarray and infighting( and even been indian govt stooges at certain times) making them easy targets for anti panthic and sanatani groups. But controversy is also on other side where certain have started attacking important panth wide accepted parts of sikhi and instead of fighting against rss and brahminvaadi influence have ended up helping them. Note both sides are far each side, it is similar to how right wing define leftists with far left groups or communist idealogy. I would not say all of one side is bad or all of other side is bad. Both play their role. The biggest threat to sikhi is brahminism (has always been, still is and will always be until we unite panth and get khalsa raj which actually spreads and researchs sikhi - brahmins started "jihad" against sikhi when guru nanak sahib took off janue) which sanatani( in the name of puratan) leaning sikh groups are helping the most.
  11. Many sikhs do not have full faith in many puratan sources and question their reliability and authenticity. Without delving into controversy it has been accepted that one can be a full gursikh by following the teachings of sri guru granth sahib and the basic sikh reyat maryada. The main point is that you should not be worried too much about whether you wear a sarbloh or non sarbloh kara. It is more a choice which should not affect you becoming one with waheguru.
  12. I am not that knwoledgable about bhai chaupa singhs rehitnama. Might be mistake but you called him "bhai" chaupa singh. Bhai is an honorary title and is commonly used for shaheeds. E.g. khalistani shaheeds, shaheed bhai gurjant singh budhsinghwala, shaheed bhai lachman singh babbar, shaheed bhai gurdev singh debu. Even for older shaheeds, e.g. bhai daya singh, shaheed bhai taru singh ji. Or panj piyare Bhai daya singh, bhai dharm singh, bhai himmat singh bhai mohkam singh, bhai sahib singh
  13. The ten gurus in human bodies are all forms of guru nanak and sent by waheguru. Their job was to create sikhi and to fully establish all princaples and implemwnt miri piri sant sipahi khalsa etc. And spread sikhi took time of 10 gurus. After 10 gurus sikh religion was finished and ready and the real guru (shabad guru /gian) was moved into sri guru granth sahib. We do not worship body of yuru nanak we value his gian and knowledge in his gurbani. There is bani of 15 bhagats (including hindus and muslims) in sri guru granth sahib, there is bani of 11 bhatts ij sri guru granthsahib. These people became maha purakhs and one with waheguru so there bani was truth like waheguru. These are derived from not so reliable sources. Edit: mentioning answer for above point, dasma patshah compiled sri guru granth sahib if he thought not to trust muslims why would he keep their bani in gurbani. These are all lies spread by brahminvaadi forces to pollute sikhi and incorporate it into hinduism. These are not reliable, guru ji did not live like he actually was dully against and said you can only achieve mukti and become one with waheguru if you live house life not hide in mountains. Also could be because guru ji was travellor and unlike dasma patsha did not lead army etc. Answered slightly above Remeber these are not real pictures so should not be used to make assumptions. Bhul chuk maf Wjkk wjkf
  14. People saying sat sri akaal is out of lazyness as they have shortened the battle cry bole so nihal sat sri akal. A sikh is instructed to greet another sikh by saying waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh. Normally i hear the sat sri akaal amongst culutural sikhs or mone. Sikhs use waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh.
  15. Type of kara has nothing to do with sikhi. It is best to reference sikh reyat maryada, normally anything above that is either superstitions, waam/ parm or delving into controversy or at times fully anti panthic. You will not become patit if you have non sarbloh kara, waheguru will not punish you.
  16. Bikrami calendar is anti sikh and pushed by brahminvaadi forces. It is a disgrace to call bikrami calendar nanakshahi. Gadar e quam Badal even got his puppets at sgpc and akal takth to release this brahminvaadi calendar. https://www.sikh24.com/2021/03/14/amid-row-giani-harpreet-singh-again-releases-amended-version-of-nanakshahi-calendar/
  17. I agree they areimportant but their isnt set reqards for doing a certain amount of path or something. There is no poont reciting baani if u get nothing out of it. If you hear, understand and implement baani it is good. If you do it because it hepps you connect with waheguru or battle 5 thieves then good. But if you do it so you can hit 125k to get some made up reward then it is not good and is anti gurmat. Saying waheguru X amount of times does not give you anything, the point is too clear and control your mind/brain and focus on waheguru. There is reason why gurus took us away from brahminism and useless superstitions, it was not for us to go back to them...
  18. Doing paths does not achieve anything, the point of sikhi was to break out of rituals jot create them. If i get a speaker and get it to play jaap 125000 times it wont achieve anything, same if i get parrot to say it 125 000 times or if i get someone who does not know gurmukhi or punjabi or meaning to say it 125,000 times. I could do one million akhand paths but if i dont learn anything from sggs or implement gurus teachings then a singh sehaj path is a million times better. Im pretty sure these is something which explains this in gurbanj, e.g. the one about how the musalman prayer circle walking around thing ( no offence) means nothing like something which spins around all day does not get closer to waheguru or achieve salvation or access to "heaven".
  19. The only thing stopping sikhi from becoming a sect of hinduism is the disipline, identity, our history and criticism of hindu practises. No religion solely based out of india can survive if it has leniency. What's the point of increasing our numbers if the people are not committed. We want sant sipahi's not people who sell out their religion at the sight of danger or the 5 choors, kaam (lust), krodh (wrath), lobh (greed), moh (attachment to phyiscal things inclduing people) and ahankar (ego/ pride). A major part of sikhi is commitment and discipline, if you can't follow the teachers of sggs (sri guru granth sahib) than why call yourself a sikh? Just go be a hindu. There are only a small number of sikhs because their is only a few lions in a forest! If every 2nd person starts calling themself a sikh except destroy the sikh identity, of truthful hardworkers who fight tyranny and injustice, help people in need and walk with their head in their hand for their religion! We don't want a bunch of cowards, people who commit sins, choors , dakhoos etc. If the sikh identity is destroyed than sikhi will follow it very quickly. Sehajdhari's follow some of the teachings of sikhi or they are new to sikhi or they are on the path of becoming sikhs/ want to learn more/ commit more before they take amrit. the full "khalsa lifestyle" is what makes sikhi, sikhi. If you let any tom dick or harry be sikhs while not following sikhi than sikhi will be no more.
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